Re: 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

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Hi Al:

Not altogether surprising they had no children. It appears they got

married when she was 58.

Rodney.

--- In , " old542000 " <apater@m...>

wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> Another centenarian bites the dust.

>

> No children makes me wonder.

>

> See:

>

> http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/040516/w051650.html

>

> Ohio woman, recognized as the 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

> 09:08 PM EDT May 16

> NORTH LIMA, Ohio (AP) - Charlotte Benkner, recognized as the

world's

> second oldest person, has died. She was 114.

>

> Benkner died Friday at St. Hospital in Youngstown,

> Sheridan of Fox Funeral Home in the Youngstown suburb of Boardman,

> said Sunday. He did not have a cause of death. Her nephew's wife,

> O'Hare, said Sunday that Benkner had been in the hospital for

> the past two-and-a-half weeks.

>

> The Guinness Book of Records recognized Benkner as the oldest

person

> in the world in November, but it replaced her with a Puerto Rican

> woman last month.

>

> Benkner and her husband of 56 years, Karl, had no children.

[Guest guest]

I wonder what's the correlation- for women- between childbirth and

longevity.

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Another centenarian bites the dust.

> >

> > No children makes me wonder.

> >

> > See:

> >

> > http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/040516/w051650.html

> >

> > Ohio woman, recognized as the 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

> > 09:08 PM EDT May 16

> > NORTH LIMA, Ohio (AP) - Charlotte Benkner, recognized as the

> world's

> > second oldest person, has died. She was 114.

> >

> > Benkner died Friday at St. Hospital in Youngstown,

> > Sheridan of Fox Funeral Home in the Youngstown suburb of

Boardman,

> > said Sunday. He did not have a cause of death. Her nephew's

wife,

> > O'Hare, said Sunday that Benkner had been in the hospital

for

> > the past two-and-a-half weeks.

> >

> > The Guinness Book of Records recognized Benkner as the oldest

> person

> > in the world in November, but it replaced her with a Puerto

Rican

> > woman last month.

> >

> > Benkner and her husband of 56 years, Karl, had no children.

[Guest guest]

It does not state WHEN her husband died.....that would be when their marriage ended.....not the day that SHE died, as you calculated to figure out her age on wedding day at age 58.

Jean

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From: last_tango_bayreuth

Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:51 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

I wonder what's the correlation- for women- between childbirth and longevity. > > Hi All,> > > > Another centenarian bites the dust.> > > > No children makes me wonder.> > > > See:> > > > http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/040516/w051650.html > > > > Ohio woman, recognized as the 2nd oldest person, dies at 114 > > 09:08 PM EDT May 16 > > NORTH LIMA, Ohio (AP) - Charlotte Benkner, recognized as the > world's > > second oldest person, has died. She was 114. > > > > Benkner died Friday at St. Hospital in Youngstown, > > Sheridan of Fox Funeral Home in the Youngstown suburb of Boardman, > > said Sunday. He did not have a cause of death. Her nephew's wife, > > O'Hare, said Sunday that Benkner had been in the hospital for > > the past two-and-a-half weeks. > > > > The Guinness Book of Records recognized Benkner as the oldest > person > > in the world in November, but it replaced her with a Puerto Rican > > woman last month. > > > > Benkner and her husband of 56 years, Karl, had no children.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jean:

Good point.

Rodney.

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > Another centenarian bites the dust.

> > >

> > > No children makes me wonder.

> > >

> > > See:

> > >

> > > http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/040516/w051650.html

> > >

> > > Ohio woman, recognized as the 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

> > > 09:08 PM EDT May 16

> > > NORTH LIMA, Ohio (AP) - Charlotte Benkner, recognized as the

> > world's

> > > second oldest person, has died. She was 114.

> > >

> > > Benkner died Friday at St. Hospital in Youngstown,

>

> > > Sheridan of Fox Funeral Home in the Youngstown suburb of

> Boardman,

> > > said Sunday. He did not have a cause of death. Her nephew's

> wife,

> > > O'Hare, said Sunday that Benkner had been in the

hospital

> for

> > > the past two-and-a-half weeks.

> > >

> > > The Guinness Book of Records recognized Benkner as the oldest

> > person

> > > in the world in November, but it replaced her with a Puerto

> Rican

> > > woman last month.

> > >

> > > Benkner and her husband of 56 years, Karl, had no children.

[Guest guest]

The oldest I've known was 102 yo had no children.

Regards.

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From: last_tango_bayreuth

Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:51 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

I wonder what's the correlation- for women- between childbirth and longevity.

[Guest guest]

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

> The oldest I've known was 102 yo had no children.

>

> Regards.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: last_tango_bayreuth

>

> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:51 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

>

>

> I wonder what's the correlation- for women- between childbirth

and

> longevity.

My grandmother never married until her late twenties and only had four

children and lived to be 94 (sister 96). Many women of that

generation had 10 or 12 kids and died often before their husbands in

their 50s or 60s. This is according to my father (89) who is still a

pretty sharp ole " cookie " . I would imagine that having 10 or 12

children would take a lot out of a person.

If this apocryphal evidence doesn't pass muster with you more

scientific types then I have something else for you about eating soy

products - although if you're not a male monkey it may not be a

problem. See,

" This Food Can Make Men Aggressive "

at

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/men/package.jsp?na

me=fte/foodaggressive/foodaggressive

Aequalsz

[Guest guest]

We need more than a sample size of two don't you think?

Check this out from this Harvard study:

Bearing a Child After Forty May Mean Longer Life Span

http://focus.hms.harvard.edu/1997/Sept19_1997/geron.html

> --- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

> > The oldest I've known was 102 yo had no children.

> > Regards.

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"Women who have a child in their forties may also live longer, according "

I'm not sure what it says for those women who have no children. I think it says that women who have children later in life live longer than those that have them younger because menop is delayed.

Regards.

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From: scott@...

Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

We need more than a sample size of two don't you think? :)Check this out from this Harvard study:Bearing a Child After Forty May Mean Longer Life Spanhttp://focus.hms.harvard.edu/1997/Sept19_1997/geron.html> --- In , "jwwright" <jwwright@e...>wrote:> > The oldest I've known was 102 yo had no children.> > Regards.

[Guest guest]

I agree with you interpretation.

It would seem likely (bgut not necessarily) that women who were childless AND

had a late menopause would live longer as well. This is a testable hypothesis

anyway. The late menopause is the factor that indicates longevity.

S

Quoting jwwright <jwwright@...>:

> " Women who have a child in their forties may also live longer, according "

> I'm not sure what it says for those women who have no children. I think it

> says that women who have children later in life live longer than those that

> have them younger because menop is delayed.

>

> Regards.

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: scott@...

>

> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:43 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

>

>

> We need more than a sample size of two don't you think?

>

> Check this out from this Harvard study:

>

>

> Bearing a Child After Forty May Mean Longer Life Span

>

>

> http://focus.hms.harvard.edu/1997/Sept19_1997/geron.html

>

>

> >

> > > The oldest I've known was 102 yo had no children.

>

> > > Regards.

>

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I agree with that. I also recall that those late starting menstrual cycle (menarche?) will have a later menopause. So the next thing is what delays starting? one thing is malnutrition per : Kistner's Gynecology & Women's Health, 7th ed., pg 262.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: scott@...

Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:26 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: 2nd oldest person, dies at 114

I agree with you interpretation.It would seem likely (bgut not necessarily) that women who were childless ANDhad a late menopause would live longer as well. This is a testable hypothesisanyway. The late menopause is the factor that indicates longevity.SQuoting jwwright <jwwright@...>:> "Women who have a child in their forties may also live longer, according "> I'm not sure what it says for those women who have no children. I think it> says that women who have children later in life live longer than those that> have them younger because menop is delayed. > > Regards.>