Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 tango: this was very recently discussed when another newbie smoker asked a similar question: See: /message/11522 and then the responses to that thread. on 5/16/2004 4:35 PM, last_tango_bayreuth at last_tango_bayreuth@... wrote: > any feedback would be appreciated. > cordially, aaaaa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hi Tango: Well you came to the right place. Welcome. As for smoking I can't help you, except to suggest that you might want to consider what you will look like (wrinkles GALORE) twenty years from now if you continue to smoke. You are addicted and you are going to have to go thought a great deal of 'inconvenience' in order to beat it. Are you up to it? I hope so. Rodney. > I have a question... were any of you smokers at any point in your > life or smokers when you got in the program? I'm 25 years old, > overweight according to the halls.md BMI website (26.4), and in all > honesty, this program which I stumbled across thanks to a > sonian mag article (indirectly) sounds like the most sensible > and laudable of lifestyle programs. > I'm always tired, sleep a lot and do weigh probably at least 20 lbs > more than I should. My skin tone's far from great, and my > cholesterol has always historically been high. I don't feel 100% > great and don't look too great either! But since all the weight loss > type stuff or lifestyle changes out there sound like so much B.S. > (Macrobiotics sounded like an interesting option at one point, but > it's just too esoteric and non-user friendly for the likes of me), I > have not had any good dosis of motivation to change until I came > across Calorie Restriction. I read all the mice studies, I read the > possible side effects (both physical and psychological) and > understand at an intellectual level how true it is that 60% of the > crap we (as in, regular folks) eat has zero nutritional value or not > enough to merit their consumption. After spending a few days looking > over all the CR stuff I've even found myself analysing both the > caloric content and nutritional value of foods I generally consume > (something I've done like.... never!) I guess it sort of sparked > this dream in me of being this wonderful, unwasteful, healthy, > conscious human being unleashing her full potential or something (a > far more motivating lifestyle-changing, health-seeking mentality > than the tired epithet " you'd look so cute if only you lost those > pounds " ) > Even though Walford's website at one point states that improper > nutrition contributes to lack of well being even more than > smoking , I understand that smoking is the most harmful, wasteful > thing of all, not to mention it totally defeats the purpose of life > extension thru calorie restriction. > My question is, I guess, is it advisable at all to begin the regime > while still a smoker? (quitting smoking, after all, increases > bingeing and in my case, mood swings) If I wait till I quit for > reals I'm afraid I'll never start, on the other hand, maybe some of > you out there had to pass through this particular hurdle as well... > > so, ex-smokers out there (if there are any) how did you quit? how > soon before or after starting the regime did you quit, and do you > have any tips for a smoker who disdains micotine patches and gums > and the like? > any feedback would be appreciated. > cordially, aaaaa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 I think you are right to view CR as a positive step. I think it would be helpful for you regardless of wheather or not you quit smoking. Quitting smoking would probably be more beneficial for your health. Question: Why the distain for nicotine patches, gum, etc? Suggestion: you might try getting a prescription program for Wellbutrin, a medication that has been approved for use in aiding smoking cessation, as well as an appetite suppressant for some. >From: " last_tango_bayreuth " <last_tango_bayreuth@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] the Camel handicap >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:35:14 -0000 > >I have a question... were any of you smokers at any point in your >life or smokers when you got in the program? I'm 25 years old, >overweight according to the halls.md BMI website (26.4), and in all >honesty, this program which I stumbled across thanks to a >sonian mag article (indirectly) sounds like the most sensible >and laudable of lifestyle programs. >I'm always tired, sleep a lot and do weigh probably at least 20 lbs >more than I should. My skin tone's far from great, and my >cholesterol has always historically been high. I don't feel 100% >great and don't look too great either! But since all the weight loss >type stuff or lifestyle changes out there sound like so much B.S. >(Macrobiotics sounded like an interesting option at one point, but >it's just too esoteric and non-user friendly for the likes of me), I >have not had any good dosis of motivation to change until I came >across Calorie Restriction. I read all the mice studies, I read the >possible side effects (both physical and psychological) and >understand at an intellectual level how true it is that 60% of the >crap we (as in, regular folks) eat has zero nutritional value or not >enough to merit their consumption. After spending a few days looking >over all the CR stuff I've even found myself analysing both the >caloric content and nutritional value of foods I generally consume >(something I've done like.... never!) I guess it sort of sparked >this dream in me of being this wonderful, unwasteful, healthy, >conscious human being unleashing her full potential or something (a >far more motivating lifestyle-changing, health-seeking mentality >than the tired epithet " you'd look so cute if only you lost those >pounds " ) >Even though Walford's website at one point states that improper >nutrition contributes to lack of well being even more than >smoking , I understand that smoking is the most harmful, wasteful >thing of all, not to mention it totally defeats the purpose of life >extension thru calorie restriction. >My question is, I guess, is it advisable at all to begin the regime >while still a smoker? (quitting smoking, after all, increases >bingeing and in my case, mood swings) If I wait till I quit for >reals I'm afraid I'll never start, on the other hand, maybe some of >you out there had to pass through this particular hurdle as well... > >so, ex-smokers out there (if there are any) how did you quit? how >soon before or after starting the regime did you quit, and do you >have any tips for a smoker who disdains micotine patches and gums >and the like? >any feedback would be appreciated. >cordially, aaaaa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Thanks y'all for the feedback, I'll be sure to check the link. My issues with nicorette gun amd patches involve acquaintances of mine who became so addicted to nicorette gum that they developed a habit out of THAT; as far as the patch, it doesn't properly address the oral habit thing. I might look into Wellbutrin, however, do a little research... > I think you are right to view CR as a positive step. > > I think it would be helpful for you regardless of wheather or not you quit > smoking. > > Quitting smoking would probably be more beneficial for your health. > > Question: Why the distain for nicotine patches, gum, etc? > > Suggestion: you might try getting a prescription program for Wellbutrin, a > medication that has been approved for use in aiding smoking cessation, as > well as an appetite suppressant for some. > > > >From: " last_tango_bayreuth " <last_tango_bayreuth@y...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: [ ] the Camel handicap > >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:35:14 -0000 > > > >I have a question... were any of you smokers at any point in your > >life or smokers when you got in the program? I'm 25 years old, > >overweight according to the halls.md BMI website (26.4), and in all > >honesty, this program which I stumbled across thanks to a > >sonian mag article (indirectly) sounds like the most sensible > >and laudable of lifestyle programs. > >I'm always tired, sleep a lot and do weigh probably at least 20 lbs > >more than I should. My skin tone's far from great, and my > >cholesterol has always historically been high. I don't feel 100% > >great and don't look too great either! But since all the weight loss > >type stuff or lifestyle changes out there sound like so much B.S. > >(Macrobiotics sounded like an interesting option at one point, but > >it's just too esoteric and non-user friendly for the likes of me), I > >have not had any good dosis of motivation to change until I came > >across Calorie Restriction. I read all the mice studies, I read the > >possible side effects (both physical and psychological) and > >understand at an intellectual level how true it is that 60% of the > >crap we (as in, regular folks) eat has zero nutritional value or not > >enough to merit their consumption. After spending a few days looking > >over all the CR stuff I've even found myself analysing both the > >caloric content and nutritional value of foods I generally consume > >(something I've done like.... never!) I guess it sort of sparked > >this dream in me of being this wonderful, unwasteful, healthy, > >conscious human being unleashing her full potential or something (a > >far more motivating lifestyle-changing, health-seeking mentality > >than the tired epithet " you'd look so cute if only you lost those > >pounds " ) > >Even though Walford's website at one point states that improper > >nutrition contributes to lack of well being even more than > >smoking , I understand that smoking is the most harmful, wasteful > >thing of all, not to mention it totally defeats the purpose of life > >extension thru calorie restriction. > >My question is, I guess, is it advisable at all to begin the regime > >while still a smoker? (quitting smoking, after all, increases > >bingeing and in my case, mood swings) If I wait till I quit for > >reals I'm afraid I'll never start, on the other hand, maybe some of > >you out there had to pass through this particular hurdle as well... > > > >so, ex-smokers out there (if there are any) how did you quit? how > >soon before or after starting the regime did you quit, and do you > >have any tips for a smoker who disdains micotine patches and gums > >and the like? > >any feedback would be appreciated. > >cordially, aaaaa. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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