Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23 Ghz Wimax?)

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Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for

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Re 's post:

> As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel

> much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to

> not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not " hear "

> the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on

> multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance.

My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At first

I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading 's

post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an effect on my

ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell phone masts

and I don't have that many neighbours closeby.

If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close but

not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know...

I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic:

thanks,

.

February 10, 2011

It depends on the voltage (which some people can tell from the

number and size of the insulators). But usually with big transmission

lines I would think a mile to 5 miles is what you want.

I believe the problem with power lines though is not usually the 60 Hz

but the higher frequencies. These can sometimes be fixed by the

power company if caused by loose hardware etc. Get an MFJ-856

from mfjenterprises.com and see if you can detect it at 135 MHz.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:05 AM, <

@...> wrote:

>

> Re 's post:

>

> > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel

> > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to

> > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not " hear "

> > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on

> > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter

> distance.

>

> My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At

> first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading

> 's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have

> an effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as

> cell phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby.

>

> If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close

> but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know...

>

> I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic:

> http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74

>

> thanks,

> .

>

> > > Hi Stuart,

> > > Thanks for the info re: the high frequency distribution. Why do you say

> 1200 ft sounds too close to shield sufficiently? Do you have a reference for

> this? Thanks, Debbi

> > >

> >

>

February 10, 2011

Okey thank you, lots of info indeed:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112c.html

You mention 300 metres (= approx. 0.2 miles) should be enough...

In one of the German pdf (link is on that page) they mention, it's not safe

within 500 metres (= approx. 0.3 miles)

Also interesting and I copy/paste:

On the other hand, when those powerline cables hang not single, but hang

together with for instance three cables, the magnetic fields are much less

(french method, see picture below).

I just took a look at the power lines close to my house and they are not

" according to the french method " . I've also re-estimated the distance to the

power lines and it is quite a bit further than the quarter mile I had guessed at

first...

Read on one of the links on ' site, seems they can measure the power

lines from very far:

Power line harmonic radiation (PLHR) is always detectable in high sensitivity

ELF-VLF receiving systems even when measuring at location tens of kilometers

away from the nearest power lines. The observed PLHR is either from direct

radiation from the power lines or it is from the magnetosphere, where it has

experienced amplification in wave-particle interactions. We have studied

properties of PLHR measured at extremely low local noise surrounding at L-value

of about 6. The nearest power line systems are about 40 km away and distance to

those carrying strong currents is more than one hundred kilometers.

http://www.minderstraling.nl/Powerlines/PLHR.rtf

.

>

> About the distance to powerlines, a lot of relevant info and reports is at my

website.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

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>

> Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding

for 23 Ghz Wimax?)

>

> Re 's post:

>

> > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel

> > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to

> > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not " hear "

> > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on

> > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter distance.

>

> My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At

first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading

's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an

effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell

phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby.

>

> If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close but

not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know...

>

> I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic:

> http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74

>

> thanks,

> .

>

February 10, 2011

Interesting are the observations by Henshaw, who states a distance of 400

meters, because through the wind, electrically charged particles are coming your

way. Within these 400 meters, he found more leukemia than outside.

Also interesting is the California report. All chapters can be downloaded.

In the netherlands, now all new powerline masts are not allowed more tham 0,2 uT

or 200 nT.

The company Tennet has developed o new system of mast, where the cables are

closer to each other, and which should fulfill to thjis requirement.

It is called Wintrackline.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

> http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74

checked by Norton

Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding

for 23 Ghz Wimax?)

>

> Re 's post:

>

> > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel

> > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to

> > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not " hear "

> > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on

> > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter

distance.

>

> My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At

first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading

's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an

effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell

phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby.

>

> If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close

but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know...

>

> I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic:

>

> thanks,

> .

>

February 10, 2011

I have a question about absorbing stray voltage from aÂ transformer on the

ground in rear of our neighbor's yard. Are there dangers in stray ground

currents from that? I don't know the strength, but could find out.

Â How do you determine if your home is grounded properly?

I dion't know what the biggest cause is. Aluminum wiring, that need to be redone

or a combo of emf's. I just know my ears ring here as soon as I pull past the

neighbor's

gas meter pointing at our garage.

I know they don't work for all, but would GS filters for older wiring until can

fix it?

Thanks, Kathy

From: charles <charles@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding

for 23 Ghz Wimax?)

Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 12:37 PM

Â

Interesting are the observations by Henshaw, who states a distance of 400

meters, because through the wind, electrically charged particles are coming your

way. Within these 400 meters, he found more leukemia than outside.

Also interesting is the California report. All chapters can be downloaded.

In the netherlands, now all new powerline masts are not allowed more tham 0,2 uT

or 200 nT.

The company Tennet has developed o new system of mast, where the cables are

closer to each other, and which should fulfill to thjis requirement.

It is called Wintrackline.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

> http://www.freefoto.com/preview/13-18-74?ffid=13-18-74

checked by Norton

Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding

for 23 Ghz Wimax?)

>

> Re 's post:

>

> > As I wrote on my ehs page, I need 1000 ft. away from one wifi to feel

> > much better, 300 ft. from cel phones and 1.5 miles from cel-towers to

> > not be pained by them, and 1/4 mile away from power lines to not " hear "

> > the buzzing, which corresponds to electric fields (body voltage on

> > multimeter) moreso than magnetic field, which has a much shorter

distance.

>

> My house is approximately a 1/4 mile from high voltage power lines... At

first I thought a quarter mile distance is far enough, but now when reading

's post I'm not so sure anymore. I wonder if these power lines have an

effect on my ES or not... I'm not that close to other emf sources such as cell

phone masts and I don't have that many neighbours closeby.

>

> If there are others here that have noticed bad effects from living close

but not very close to high power voltage lines, please let me know...

>

> I'm talking about beautiful creatures like on this pic:

>

> thanks,

> .

>

February 10, 2011

It's a small step down transformer I would think.Â It had to be replaced in the

fall. Found 20+Â homes were out.

Felt 75 % better w no electric, sad. I didn't notice a problem like I have here

in homes w copper wiring. Just been here since spring, may have to move.

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Subject: Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding for 23

Ghz Wimax?)

Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 1:08 PM

Â

I have a question about absorbing stray voltage from aÂ transformer on the

ground in rear of our neighbor's yard. Are there dangers in stray ground

currents from that? I don't know the strength, but could find out.

Â How do you determine if your home is grounded properly?

I dion't know what the biggest cause is. Aluminum wiring, that need to be redone

or a combo of emf's. I just know my ears ring here as soon as I pull past the

neighbor's

gas meter pointing at our garage.

I know they don't work for all, but would GS filters for older wiring until can

fix it?

Thanks, Kathy

From: charles <charles@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Distance to high voltage power lines (was: Shielding

for 23 Ghz Wimax?)

Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 12:37 PM

Â

Interesting are the observations by Henshaw, who states a distance of 400

meters, because through the wind, electrically charged particles are coming your

way. Within these 400 meters, he found more leukemia than outside.

Also interesting is the California report. All chapters can be downloaded.

In the netherlands, now all new powerline masts are not allowed more tham 0,2 uT

or 200 nT.

The company Tennet has developed o new system of mast, where the cables are

closer to each other, and which should fulfill to thjis requirement.

It is called Wintrackline.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie