Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 > I take way better care of myself than most people. Why then am I so sick? , what has been your experience with heavy metal detox? Do you have any metal in your body? (including dental fillings) Have you tried taking things for heavy metal detox (e.g., alpha lipoic acid), and if so what was your reaction to it? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I had my fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get really sick. Like I'm going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no reaction. I'm drinking ionized water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think I am detoxing with it. I'm feeling sickly all the time. She said it helped her friend that has fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3 months of drinking it. I had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It didn't show up any abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I still think I'm toxic. Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel means more to me then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are choppy. > > > I take way better care of myself than most people. Why then am I so sick? > > , what has been your experience with heavy metal detox? Do you have > any metal in your body? (including dental fillings) Have you tried > taking things for heavy metal detox (e.g., alpha lipoic acid), and if so > what was your reaction to it? > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol. He believes you have to take ALA in rounds of 3 - 4 days around the clock before the 1/2 life expires, believe that's every 3-4 hours. You have to supplement to support your body during chelation. It takes a a while get it out. http://www.noamalgam.com/ There are of those w experience to guide you frequent-dose-chelation Or adult chelation group Kathy lindameetoo@... writes: had my fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get really sick. Like I'm going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no reaction. I'm drinking ionized water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think I am detoxing with it. I'm feeling sickly all the time. She said it helped her friend that has fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3 months of drinking it. I had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It didn't show up any abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I still think I'm toxic. Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel means more to me then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are choppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Thanks for the info. I will check into it. > > > Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol. > > He believes you have to take ALA in rounds of 3 - 4 days around the clock before the 1/2 life expires, believe that's every 3-4 hours. > > You have to supplement to support your body during chelation. It takes a a while get it out. > > http://www.noamalgam.com/ > > > There are of those w experience to guide > you > > frequent-dose-chelation > > > > Or adult chelation group > > Kathy > > > lindameetoo@... writes: > > > > had my fillings removed, last year. Whenever I do a detox I get really > > sick. Like I'm going to die. I can take alpha lipoic acid no reaction. I'm > > drinking ionized water (My real estate agent is giving me. I think I am > > detoxing with it. I'm feeling sickly all the time. She said it helped her friend > > that has fibromyalgia. I haven't felt a difference in almost 3 months of > > drinking it. I had a bunch of blood work done about 3 years ago. It didn't > > show up any abnormalities. I think they did a heavy metal test. I still think > > I'm toxic. Test...What are test. They mean nothing to me. What I feel > > means more to me then what a test says. Sorry my thoughts are choppy. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yes, parasites have to be treated 1st. I think I have something going on. Have a gurgle in the esophagus I've never had before after eating mainly sweeter as fruit or juices. Then I cough, no mucus but read they make you cough when moving. Thinking about it makes your skin crawl. Their more reactive during a full moon which is here now.  I've tested w an EAV & a trusted doc. says I have a cavitat, but doens't show on ultra sound. My son was treated for parasites so we could all need treatment. My stomach moves around more when lay down. I think I passed 1, w virastop & candidaise & C. Might need something stronger. Going to check it out further. Some don't react to sulphur. I agree about the water. Kathy From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: Re: Why then am I so sick?  > Make sure you're using Andy Cutler's safe dosing of ALA & protocol. Yes, but said that she had no reaction to taking ALA. That would indicate to me that ALA may not even be helpful to her. The primary purpose for ALA in a heavy metal detox is to remove mercury from the body, but there could be many other metals or parasites contributing to ES. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Marc, Why are most pushing lowering PH? I read somewhere the body needs to be acidic side to detox? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I think the pH-discussion is extremely interesting, and yes, definitely complicated! Well anything that is holistic is easy to comprehend imo! There's a difference between the pH of water you drink and the effect on your body, raising your pH-value is imo more complicated than consuming alkaline water/food. Your body will do anything to make sure blood is always in perfect pH-range indeed, but if it is too acidic due to toxins for instance it does rob minerals from your bones and/or organs, to make it more alkaline... That may cause degenerative bones (= osteoporosis = low pH/voltage) or degenerative organs (= low pH/voltage). Dr Jerry Tennant has got a very good insight on pH/voltage. And he links that with every aspect of health/illness. Imo his theory/book is the best out there to give you insight on health. I'm not a fan of his biomodulator-therapy by the way. I've posted here on Tennant already quite a lot, a couple of months ago. Anybody who wants to read more about this read my older posts, buy his book or go to his website for a short intro and click on integrative medicine: www.tennantinstitute.com Tennant says that chronic sickness (in any way) is always accompanied with globally too low pH/acidic (= too little voltage). Tennant measures that by a voltmeter on different energy points (quite similar to the chakra points) on the body, he takes the average of these points. That's why it is so difficult to get better if you're chronically ill, your body hasn't get enough voltage/energy/chi to get the things done. In that case he recommends to work slowly on raising body voltage (directly and indirectly). This also explains why a lot of people can't detox as fast as healthy people, or why they (me included!) have so many side effects from every therapy. Side effects that are often worse than the cure... Tennant also checks pH/voltage locally. You can have local areas of inflammation (= alkaline = too much voltage) and body parts that are degenerating (= too acidic = too little voltage). Pain is always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally. Health problems are always related to imperfect pH/voltage locally or in the entire body... > > > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us. > > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is > > important, even putting filter on the shower head. > > Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial. > Saying that we are " too acidic " is meaningless without referencing which > part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood > CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline) > range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion, > otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that > drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although > it'd be okay on an empty stomach). > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Your body is ideally 7.4 pH. And that's also when the body will detox best. > > Marc, > > Why are most pushing lowering PH? I read somewhere the body needs to be acidic side to detox? > > Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yes, I know, for instance stomach acid is (unsurprisingly!) supposed to be acidic and not 7.4... But Tennant means cell voltage, that's sth else. Tennant takes the average of cell voltage based on the voltage he measures on energy points (more or less chakra points) on the body. He calls that global body voltage/pH. In Tennant's book he also explains on measuring pH/voltage based on an average of salivary and urine pH... I've read (and posted) more on that, but the urine pH indeed is so dependent on what you ate the day before, not really trustworthy yes. What I like about Tennant's theory is that his theory forms a basis for all health problems. Tennant also goes into detail about a lot of specific health problems, which are very common these days, most of them mentioned here in detail... Hyperthyroidism, bowling ball syndrome (not right aligned spine), teeth (toxicity & energy), energy flows, Iodine,... > > > Your body is ideally 7.4 pH. And that's also when the body will detox > > best. > > You cannot assign a single pH value to the entire body. The body > has different pH's throughout. The ideal pH in one part > of the body is different than it is in another part of the body. > > I guess when talking about pH, people should stick to something > easily measurable and potentially meaningful, like early morning > salivary pH. I think urine pH is largely useless, as it varies > depending on what you've been eating the day before. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 What seems to help my painful knees recently is Hyalorunic Eyedrops... http://www.pingueculae.com/index.php/eye-drops/134-hyaluronic-eye-drops-suppleme\ nts Supplementing with Ca + Mg + Vit. K1 + Vit. K2 + Vit. D3 + Glucosamin is the most commonly recommended supplement therapy for osteoporosis I think. But that's in theory and imo with every supplement you take you can get side effects, it's always more complicated! Taking Ca supplements is highly alkalizing, as Tennant recommends for all chronically sick people (low pH/voltage/acidic), although too much Ca will have side effects probably for nerves/... as somebody mentioned here today. > > > > > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us. > > > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is > > > important, even putting filter on the shower head. > > > > Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial. > > Saying that we are " too acidic " is meaningless without referencing which > > part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood > > CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline) > > range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion, > > otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that > > drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although > > it'd be okay on an empty stomach). > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I think the advantage of eye drops may be that it's more easily absorbed, not via digestive system... I haven't compared drops vs caps, I just know the drops help for me... The caps could work perfect as well imo. > > > > > > > I have heard that drinking alkaline water isn't necessarily good for us. > > > > I read this on Dr. Mercola. I think having a good water purifer is > > > > important, even putting filter on the shower head. > > > > > > Yes, the whole Alkaline/Acid thing is quite confusing and controversial. > > > Saying that we are " too acidic " is meaningless without referencing which > > > part of the body you are talking about. For example, the blood > > > CANNOT be acidic, because it is kept in a very narrow (alkaline) > > > range. Also, the stomach NEEDS to be acidic during digestion, > > > otherwise you won't digest your food properly. I'd think that > > > drinking alkaline water would interfere with digestion (although > > > it'd be okay on an empty stomach). > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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