Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 > Did you wear them next to your skin or on top of something? For the Silvertex 18% Anti-EMI pants, I wear that directly over the skin. Originally, I was worried about that, but it's been fine. It's a stretchy material similar to tights, so I'm able to wear pants/jeans on top of it. However, for the vest that someone sewed for me using the Tulle fabric, it's not that stretchy or comfortable on the skin, and I prefer not to wash it, so I usually wear it sandwiched between two shirts. Oh... the ratings on the fabrics are on a different page (http://www.shieldextrading.net). According to the data sheet on Tulle in http://www.shieldextrading.net/images/pdfs/Tulle.pdf, it's ~60dB, I believe that's 99.9999% reduction. By the way, someone e-mailed asked me exactly which fabric I'm referring to-- it's " Tulle Ag Conductive Mesh Fabric; Silver plated knit mesh fabric -60 " width. $29.28 per yard " under the " SHIELDEX Metalized Fabrics & Conductive Fabric Tapes " section. Used to be $24.73 per yard, so it's slightly more expensive before, but I think 1 yard should be enough to make a vest. I hadn't tried their hood, since I use Tulle for head covering as well. The reason I chose Tulle amongst their other fabrics is that I was told that it is the most transparent of shieldex's offerings, and I like the 60dB rating, since 20dB (99%) is not strong enough for some of the more powerful cell towers-- additionally, I like that it is silver unlike some of their other cloths. > > > > > > > > > As anyone had experience with silver lined clothes? There > is a > > > cell > > > > > tower about 500 feet from where I live and I am disabled and > spend > > > > > most of my time here? (long story but the tower may play a > big > > > part in > > > > > my diability!). I rent and have limited funds so paint is not > an > > > > > option (hope to move at the end of the lease as well). The > > > clothes are > > > > > appealing too as I could wear them when I go out as well. Do > > > clothes > > > > > need to be grounded? I don't trust the wiring in this apt so > > > couldn't > > > > > use the ground in the outlet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Darn!! I ordered too soon from lessemf. To their credit I already have the fabric, I believe they have same day shipping and sent it priority mail. I've never recieved anything so fast. But I could have saved alot by ordering the Tulle. Can you purchase partial yards, like half a yard? Thanks for the rating website. Tonight will be the first I sleep with a shield up. I got to the hardware store too late (to buy grounding rod and wire) but will be doing that in a few days. The cap (baseball style) I bought from lessemf was a dissapointment. I first planned to send it back, but after reading the fine print, decided not to, there is a 20% restocking fee plus of course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana around it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is shallow. Kathy. > > > > > > > > > > > As anyone had experience with silver lined clothes? There > > is a > > > > cell > > > > > > tower about 500 feet from where I live and I am disabled and > > spend > > > > > > most of my time here? (long story but the tower may play a > > big > > > > part in > > > > > > my diability!). I rent and have limited funds so paint is not > > an > > > > > > option (hope to move at the end of the lease as well). The > > > > clothes are > > > > > > appealing too as I could wear them when I go out as well. Do > > > > clothes > > > > > > need to be grounded? I don't trust the wiring in this apt so > > > > couldn't > > > > > > use the ground in the outlet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 In a message dated 7/13/2008 4:05:55 A.M. GMT Daylight Time, aquilawolf@... writes: course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana around it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is shallow. We could hook up with a brave surgeon and get a silver mesh inserted under our scalps permanently - now how about that ! PUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, evie15422@... writes: The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down to earth via branches and trunk into roots only to re-emerge else where ? puk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi Kathy,  The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they can block alot. The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5 feet a year. If you live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good shield, as they are evergreen. I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a southern magnolia ( " Edith Bogue " ), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6 feet a year. It was over the roof in no time! This one tree shields a 24ft X 24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions. I strategically placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to enjoy full view of my back yard.  It was an added bonus after I became ES that it also shields from frequencies.   If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens, as the deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture rich leaves. I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring gardening rush, but some places would have them still now). And I buy as large a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition. I personally have sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself, with help of at least 1-2 other people. If you have the help of 3 or 4 people, you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft, not including the rootball. Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and installed. If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself.  My husband and I have managed 7ft arborvitaes on our own. Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, you will want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.  Glad I was of some help, Diane From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes? Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Dear Evie Did you know that fall out shelters were not built near to trees because the branches and leaves hold the harmful emissions. And I'm not sure about trees shielding against emf and rf. I had several huge pines all the way down my yard and used to sit under one when it was bad but it didn't ease the effects felt from the high emf. It seems logical that a tree that has its roots deep in the ground should be an excellent ground but I believe we're dealing with things outside of the norm of ordinary electricity. Maureen Re: Silver lined clothes? Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 If you looked hard enough you actually might find someone who would try it. I think I'll stick with my cap! Kathy > > > In a message dated 7/13/2008 4:05:55 A.M. GMT Daylight Time, > aquilawolf@... writes: > > course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my > tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other > baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it > doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana around > it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it > more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color > bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they > considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is shallow. > > > > We could hook up with a brave surgeon and get a silver mesh inserted under > our scalps permanently - now how about that ! > PUK > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Fortunately, there are already trees between me and the closest (twin)cell tower. They are deciduous though. I'll keep that in mind when I move. If I can't get away from radiation I can maybe pick a spot with more trees. I have an ash right in front of my apt living room window between me and the tower and it grew really quick. I water it regular and it is hugh compared to another ash that came up at the same time across the parking lot. Yeah trees! Kathy > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> > Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes? > > Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM > What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop > has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help > scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, > you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there > are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some > type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers > (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other > directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come > up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I > can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I > did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want > to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let > everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and > can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the > fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more > efficent. > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 You mean once radiations are grounded they can erupt elsewhere? Don't they just go deeper into the earth and get recycled into something harmless? I thought that was the purpose of a grounding rod. Kathy > > > In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, > evie15422@... writes: > > The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of > water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs > and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they > > > You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down to earth > via branches and trunk into roots only to re-emerge else where ? > > puk > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi, Maureen,  I can't refute or support anything you say here. I am not schooled in these subjects. I only know that trees shield me. They might not work for everyone and they don't always work 100% for me. Do I feel a difference behind one? I surely do. When I was looking for a new home, I was amazed how I could walk thru the yards of houses we were considering and be completely fine, only to come to a gap in the landscaping and get an immediate headache. There are probably reasons why trees work for me and not you. There are areas I go to where trees do not help, as well. These are areas where there are many close towers all over the place in a several mile radius. (One such town has 77 cell towers and nearly 100 microwave towers--no amount of trees help me there!) But in most of the areas I am in, trees do shield enough for me to be comfortable, because they are between me and only 1 or 2 towers.  Diane From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolfjuno (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes? groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi, ,  Nor do I have expertise in this subject. I have no idea whether the emfs emerge somewhere else. But my experience is it isn't seeming to bother me, if they are. If that were the case tho, wouldn't we feel awful in a forest, instead of feeling revived and invigorated? And, actually, the same is true for leaves harboring harmful whatever. When you walk thru a forest, do you feel better or worse? I feel better, personally.  Diane From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...> Subject: Re: Re: Silver lined clothes? Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:51 PM In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, evie15422 (DOT) com writes: The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down to earth via branches and trunk into roots only to re-emerge else where ? puk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 In a message dated 7/14/2008 6:48:29 A.M. GMT Daylight Time, evie15422@... writes: Hi, , Nor do I have expertise in this subject. I have no idea whether the emfs emerge somewhere else. But my experience is it isn't seeming to bother me, if they are. If that were the case tho, wouldn't we feel awful in a forest, instead of feeling revived and invigorated? And, actually, the same is true for leaves harboring harmful whatever. When you walk thru a forest, do you feel better or worse? I feel better, personally. Diane I think that trees will of course offer some shade from RF, but most of the forests/woods I have walked in are generally less irradiated on the basis that the antennea is often not aim directly at large swathes of woodland as this would be a waste of RF transmissions as they are largely uninhabited areas. The temperature in a forest, the humidity, and general ambience will no doubt seem protective. I have not had enough experience of wlaking in such areas to make a solid decision on how they compare to say an open area with same ambient radiation, but trees must make a difference hopefully a positive one on the whole. puk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 In a message dated 7/14/2008 3:10:32 A.M. GMT Daylight Time, aquilawolf@... writes: You mean once radiations are grounded they can erupt elsewhere? Don't they just go deeper into the earth and get recycled into something harmless? I thought that was the purpose of a grounding rod. Kathy > > In my experience earth locally you will get it broadcast back locally the earth cable needs to be full shielded and the earthling rod or better still rods, should be well away from your vicinity. We also have the problem whne earthing not to bring in unwanted RF energies from elsewhere ie from someone else`s earthing system such as HAM radio etc,, See how you feel ES does not lie or give you respite for nothing. puk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Dear Evie, sorrry for my late reply. If I had the choice to be close to trees or not I would choose them, But I felt I had to point out for other sufferers here that trees didn't help me with the emf. I do believe that there is different technology and that what you may be experiencing is different to me. Certainly mine is not due to power lines or masts. 77 cell towers in one town is a lot and it's time something was done to stop their spread. We're getting some concept of what they're capable of and one has to wonder. All the best to you I hope you're able to overcome. Maureen Re: Silver lined clothes? groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hi, Maureen,  Yes, trees help me only with shielding outside power lines, cell or microwave towers, or transformers. They do not help with in-house problems or emfs caused by dirty electricity or fan motors, etc. They are much like using aluminum foil. They have to be placed correctly or they will not shield at all. But I like to use them because they really make the yard more peaceful from everything: traffic noises and smells, barking dogs, prying eyes, emfs.... you name it, trees seem to help absorb and shield it.  And trees grow and shield much quicker than most give them credit for. They even help I think with some of the vibrational frequencies that bother me.  Re 77 towers, etc--yes, really excessive, don't you think?!?  We finally bought a house in a small town where there are 5 towers--I think 2 are microwaves, but all are over 3 miles away. I looked for 2 1/2 years to find this! Couldn't find a house in all that time that was mold-free, pesticide-free, +/or ES free anywhere within a 100 mile radius! We almost bought a house a year ago in a town with only 3 towers, but then we found out that the area was slated for a large garbage treatment plant. (Of course, locate it in the only clean area around!) We were amazed that even in the country away from everything, it was often as bad or worse than the towns! There the towers are much stronger frequencies.  It never occurred to me that finding a house would be so difficult. I joked to a friend that I was going to move to Amish country and she (who lives closer to Amish country) replied that I could forget that.... she knew an Amish farmer who just leased his grain silo out to a cell phone company for a tower site! That beats all, doesn't it?  Hope things are better for you and the people (not) in the house next to yours are quiet, es-wise, now.   Thanks, Maureen;  Diane   From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes? groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I think a difficulty with all of this is telling loved ones what is there and how it's affecting you, especially when they're thousands of miles away and unable to help. It's like a dual agony in sharing and just causes hurt so I tend to not speak of it as it is. It's not good. How can you explain things like frequencies which today in my home have been different tones that disorient me if I'm not shielded? In fact if I didn't shield myself I truly don't think I'd be able to live with it. As it is I scrape by. But what a way to live. I look like a martian in my own home At times I just can't keep awake, it's like an hypnotic frequency sound that just sends me to sleep. The EMF has also been high and it really is too much. Enjoy your trees and I hope your new home is one of safety for you. Maureen Re: Silver lined clothes? groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hi again, Maureen,  I am almost the opposite--I can share with my family/friends far away, but not the close ones. My local relatives are all very close-minded, provincial people. My son in NYC and relatives out West are all very progressive minded. They have no problem understanding what I am struggling with. You should try talking about it with your family some. You might find they are more open than you think. My son read an article on another woman in Texas with ES. He was stunned because he knew I had a problem, but didn't know how profoundly it affected me because I had never told him. It opened up the entire subject for us and now we discuss possible helps for me and all sorts of things that might or might not have to do with ES--solar flares, for instance, and body polarity, when he calls. He is a really out-of-the-box thinker. He comes up with all sorts of new spins on things. I have been accused of this myself, but he can make me sound completely normal by comparison. lol  I used to have the problem with staying awake also, but I really think that was due to not enough exercise and movement on my part and/or too little vit D. (Vit D may play a part because I really notice this in the wintertime when I don't get out enough.)  I found that when I made a habit of frequenting parks for walking that my sleepiness went away after awhile (at first, I wanted to sleep as soon as I arrived back home! I was really sleepy!)  I find that if I miss my walks for several days that I end up falling asleep when I sit down and am quiet. But if I go out for a walk at least every other day, I am not as apt to fall asleep when I am sitting down. I swear sometimes I can even feel my blood coagulating--it feels almost like my blood stops moving in my body from being too sedate. Of course I know that isn't actually what is happening, but that is what it feels like. I need to work alot sitting down, so I try sitting on the sofa with my feet propped up and I set a timer to remind me to break, as I can work for hours without moving if I am not interrupted.  Then at least if I do fall asleep I wake up when I hear the timer go off.     Sorry to hear you are still having such bad days. Is there anywhere you can go for some peace? I can imagine what you look like! You are a cute martian, btw! lol  Thank you, dear, re wishing me success in my new home. I hope we can all find peace from ES very soon, Diane From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes? groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Hallo Evie, trees are shielding because the water contained in the leafes. In electroacupuncture I could measure that about one inch of water is enough to block out the biological harmful effect of the microwaves of the mobile phone. Measuring this effect in front and behind an apple tree near a mobile station, there was a significant decrease of this harmful effect - 30-50% depending on the size of the tree. Silver lined clothes are no real solution, because the Tesla waves responsible for the harmful effect of emf easily penetrate any metallic shielding. Though they are somewhat modified, which helps a little and gives the illusion that a perfect shielding with metallic material eventually would solve the problem. I have discussed the background of this repeatedly in this list with no response, so i will not repeat myself here. dietrich Dear Evie Did you know that fall out shelters were not built near to trees because the branches and leaves hold the harmful emissions. And I'm not sure about trees shielding against emf and rf. I had several huge pines all the way down my yard and used to sit under one when it was bad but it didn't ease the effects felt from the high emf. It seems logical that a tree that has its roots deep in the ground should be an excellent ground but I believe we're dealing with things outside of the norm of ordinary electricity. Maureen Re: Silver lined clothes? Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed20description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 > I have discussed the background of this repeatedly in this list > with no response, so i will not repeat myself here. One can read the background of this in an article downloadable from this page: http://golden-ray.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=12 & Itemid=15 Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Thanks, Dietrich,  That is my experience also (tho I have gone on personal intuition and how things affect me, as I am not a scientist myself). Thanks for sharing your experiment.   Diane aka Evie From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolfjuno (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes? groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed20descripti on. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Gruendg wrote: > Silver lined clothes are no real solution, because the Tesla waves > responsible for the harmful effect of emf easily penetrate any > metallic shielding. I just want to point out that there are others who have ES who have similarly benefited from silver mesh as you can see from the following two programs: http://www.mastsanity.org/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=157 & Itemid=1\ 28 regarding Dacre, and http://www.robindestoits.org/-Portables,-Wifi-ondes-dangereuses-Emission-66-Minu\ tes-sur-M6-20-05-2008_a348.html It is so heart-warming to hear about other individuals using silver mesh and RF detection devices, knowing that I am not alone in this. > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolfjuno (DOT) com> > Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes? > groups (DOT) com > Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM > What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop > has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help > scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, > you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there > are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some > type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers > (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other > directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come > up with. Thanks for your detailed20descripti on. It is encourging and I > can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I > did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want > to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let > everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and > can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the > fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more > efficent. > > Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008  A Building Biologist said that trees would block some of the RF from the Cell towers.  Loni  From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolfjuno (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes? groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then, you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more efficent. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Wearing metallic mesh makes you a great destination for ground current. It does not matter whether the fabric is touching you or not. When I was first learning about electrical pollution and ground currents, I had a very frightening experience that involved having metallic cloth surrounding my chest area, but not touching me. My intention was to shield myself from communication frequencies from a nearby radio tower. It turned out that ground current was going up a leg, circling my chest, then going back down the other leg, as I was standing in a place with high-frequency ground current. The RF was broadcast into my chest and affected my heart and it was indeed scary. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Interesting. I think that may be possible especially when there are high frequency ground currents, which is usually the case. If you had a conductive pad under your feet that would have solved the problem I'm pretty sure. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, <SArjuna@...> wrote: > Wearing metallic mesh makes you a great destination for ground current. > It > does not matter whether the fabric is touching you or not. When I was first > > learning about electrical pollution and ground currents, I had a very > frightening experience that involved having metallic cloth surrounding my > chest area, > but not touching me. My intention was to shield myself from communication > frequencies from a nearby radio tower. It turned out that ground current > was > going up a leg, circling my chest, then going back down the other leg, as I > was > standing in a place with high-frequency ground current. The RF was > broadcast into my chest and affected my heart and it was indeed scary. > Shivani Arjuna > www.LifeEnergies.com > > ************** > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and > fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. > > ( > http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 In a message dated 8/8/2008 2:57:39 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, wbruno@... writes: Interesting. I think that may be possible especially when there are high frequency ground currents, which is usually the case. If you had a conductive pad under your feet that would have solved the problem I'm pretty sure. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, <_SArjuna@..._ (mailto:SArjuna@...) > wrote: > Wearing metallic mesh makes you a great destination for ground current. > It > does not matter whether the fabric is touching you or not. When I was first > > learning about electrical pollution and ground currents, I had a very > frightening experience that involved having metallic cloth surrounding my > chest area, > but not touching me. My intention was to shield myself from communication > frequencies from a nearby radio tower. It turned out that ground current > was > going up a leg, circling my chest, then going back down the other leg, as I > was > standing in a place with high-frequency ground current. The RF was > broadcast into my chest and affected my heart and it was indeed scary. > Shivani Arjuna > www.LifeEnergies. whatever hf signal is coming in via my telecoms and electrics form approx 3pm until 9pm every day makes my skin crawl and heart feel dippy. I wish I could get to the bottom of it but nobody seems interested in helping me. I have tracked it to 2 telecom poles one near my house and one further away. Over the road it dies off between 2 houses. But the owners are not open to my concerns. Offcom will come out only if tv or radio are effected not intrested is bio effects occur !! This is almost driving me out of my home. Were are talking Dirty power/invasive broadband/sky radiation leakage across utilities. I am getting increasingly angry here. P UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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