Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 > 1. Apple cider vinegar I've tried apple cider vinegar, but it merely made me feel worse. Apple cider vinegar is supposed to deplete you of iodine which will in turn makef you more hypothyroid, and I think I was already iodine deicient / hypothyroid to start with! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 marc did you try it at a reduced dose ( ie less than the 2 tablespoons 3 times/day) and if so for how long?. Some of the stuff ive read says a few people have an initial reaction similar to a detox which can be quite severe, but that this can be counteracted by baking soda and at a reduced dose . Im thinking taking it because so many peole swear by it for fatigue symptoms. I also recently tried the molasses that the group were recently talking about and i have to say I felt so violently sick that I had to leave the jar at the end of the garden , because even the sight of it thereafter made me want to throw up again , now even the word " molasses " reduces me to a nervous quiver . LOL ! - so i guess these things are a highly individual thing.   Ada When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something! " Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night. " unknown From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions.... Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 10:53 AM > 1. Apple cider vinegar I've tried apple cider vinegar, but it merely made me feel worse. Apple cider vinegar is supposed to deplete you of iodine which will in turn makef you more hypothyroid, and I think I was already iodine deicient / hypothyroid to start with! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 > marc did you try it at a reduced dose ( ie less than the 2 tablespoons 3 > times/day) and if so for how long?. I can't remember the specifics, but I don't think I took more than one tablespoon per day. Even with that, I was getting " goiter " (swollen thyroid/throat) symptoms. And that was after a few days. No detox symptoms, though... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 > I also recently tried the molasses that the group were > recently talking about and i have to say I felt so violently sick I tried molasses as well... as I recall, it had such a high sugar content that it was aggravating my " yeast " overgrowth problems. Never got violently sick from it, though... just decided that it wasn't the right solution for me. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 apple cider vinegar is one of the few cures that have immediate effect on my wife. especially on the head. try it, just dont gag on the smell. does anyone know why my wife's eyes get red? ears seem to have a fluttering effect also. thanx, Mike (for ) betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@...> wrote: Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. 1. Apple cider vinegar 2. urine therapy 3. ceragem master massage bed Thamks Ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 When I said vinegar works, I meant externally applied to the scalp. Try that! Mike Marc <marc@...> wrote: > marc did you try it at a reduced dose ( ie less than the 2 tablespoons 3 > times/day) and if so for how long?. I can't remember the specifics, but I don't think I took more than one tablespoon per day. Even with that, I was getting " goiter " (swollen thyroid/throat) symptoms. And that was after a few days. No detox symptoms, though... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Apples are supposed to help GERD (so I have heard) but wouldn't the vinegar component (of the ACV ) make things worse ???? From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz@...> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions.... Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 I dont know how ACV works but it is a treatment for acid reflux amongst other things , although some people cant tolerate it, its worth reading up on though it seems to help a lot of people. http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html  Ada " Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night. " unknown From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions... . groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 THanks for this Ada I will defintely check this out - it is dreadful at the minute and nothing that my doctors prescribe for me makes it any better - and the worst of it is is that I am fairly sure there is a link between it and the ES but I daren't even broach that with my regular GP - but this will be interesting. Â BW Â Steph From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions... . groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 whoa - imagine if it healed my reflux AND into the bargain I got an improved complexion and lost weight!!!  And anything which helps to alkanise the body must be good [protects against cancer] so maybe I have to get over the taste. Here goes! From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions... . groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hi steph , try and forgo the honey if you can.  Most forums think the weight loss is tempered if the honey is added. Also make sure its an organic , unfiltered and unpasteurised version. The preferred brand is Braggs but i cant find that in the uk. Aspalls from Holland and Barrett works well. Ada When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something! " Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night. " unknown From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions... . groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Thanks Ada - you must be telepathic - how did you know what I was just about to ask??!! I have just posted another query tho about something I read saying that ACV can make you iodine deficient - so maybe if i am going to try it then I need to find something which ups my iodine levels to go along with it. Are you doing that when you take the ACV?  BW  Steph From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions... . groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 There'ssa big debate raging between seaweed and luganol's I personally go with japanese seaweed which i add to my steamed vegies. Hopefully that should do it, some say that seaweed has arsenic in it , but from what ive read ts in a form that isnt harmless to humans.  Ada When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something! " Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night. " unknown From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions... . groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Ada - sorry for asking an idiot question but what are luganols, and when does the robbing peter to pay paul syndome ever end [ie you take X, but because of taking X you have to take Y which has Z in it] Â Steph From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions... . groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 > There's a big debate raging between seaweed and luganol's I personally go > with japanese seaweed which i add to my steamed vegies. Seaweed has the advantage that it has more minerals in it than just iodine, so it may help with other mineral deficiencies that you may not be aware of. I assume you mean Lugol's solution? (a high-potency iodine/iodide supplement) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 lugols.. my mistake!. I always take seaweed any way , because its a good and easy way to get iodine into the body. As to robbing peter.. i think this is the way of 21st century living .. ! When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something! " Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night. " unknown From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz> Subject: Re: Apple cider vinegar and other questions... . groups (DOT) com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 7:14 PM Sometimes when I get an overdose of EMF my innerds start convulsing - it's like Gastroesophageal reflux gone berserk. At such times apple cider vinegar settles things down. Eli > > Wondering if anyone in the group has tried the following > remedies/treatments and to what if any degree of success. > > > 1. Apple cider vinegar > > 2. urine therapy > > 3. ceragem master massage bed > > > Thamks > > Ada > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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