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Well, you could buy " Prolamine Iodine " manufactured by Standard Process.

Or " Iodomere " by ???. Or " Lugols Solution " by ??? Probably can find these

online... probably even on Amazon.com or eBay!

Note however that folks with ES might be really sensitive to taking iodine

supplements, so you'd better figure out in advance how much you can

tolerate without adverse effect (this stuff can mobilize a lot of stored toxins

in the body).

Also, dried seaweed products are loaded with iodine...

Marc

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:11 +0000, " betty_starbuckle "

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> Anybody know how or where? I'm really not buying the " its safe " party

> line on Fukushima. The reports are so mixed swinging between no

> contamination/fallout to the core's exposed and we're all going to die.

> Me and my thyroid gland intend intend to be fully prepared, so if anyone

> has any suggestions I'd appreciate it. By the way have checked 50 plus on

> line sites and they are all all completely sold out, which i think is

> telling.

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Thanks Mark, I don't anticipate having to use it, but this disaster has shown me

that it's probably a good Idea to  always keep some around the house, as one

never knows when these things are going to occur.

 

Do you have any thoughts as to how serious this may or may not be. You always

have such a level head on such matters.

 

A

> Anybody know how or where? I'm really not buying the " its safe " party

> line on Fukushima. The reports are so mixed swinging between no

> contamination/fallout to the core's exposed and we're all going to die.

> Me and my thyroid gland intend intend to be fully prepared, so if anyone

> has any suggestions I'd appreciate it. By the way have checked 50 plus on

> line sites and they are all all completely sold out, which i think is

> telling.

>

> A

>

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> Do you have any thoughts as to how serious this may or may not be. You

> always have such a level head on such matters.

I wasn't planning on worrying about it... and I live on the west coast of

the USA...

Marc

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Hi all. You may wish to join iodine group. There is a recent discussion on

this subject .

Best wishes

Nil

Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

> Do you have any thoughts as to how serious this may or may not be. You

> always have such a level head on such matters.

I wasn't planning on worrying about it... and I live on the west coast of

the USA...

Marc

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Actually, since the half life of radioactive iodine (I-131) is 8 days,

it will essentially burn out about the time it crosses the east coast of

the USA. Hence, I doubt you will get any I-131 in Europe. The purpose of

taking Potassium Iodine is to fill up the receptor sites in the thyroid

and other body tissues, so there is no place for the radioactive iodine

to attach. Since I have already been treating my hypothroid and low body

temperature with iodine from vitaroyalproducts.com, I'm as prepared as

can be.

The other half of the fallout, will be Cs-137 (Cesium-137), and there

are no precautions we can take, besides the standard nuclear fallout

things, like staying inside, and not letting the outside air in while it

is above alert levels. I understand there was a lot of Cs137 in eastern

europe after Cherynobyl.

The more reactors they _admit_ on the news having a problem, the more

worried I'll be. Only time will say how many microRems/hr we will get

here. I have a beta and gamma radiation detector, so I'll know if or

when it arrives.

betty_starbuckle wrote:

> Anybody know how or where? I'm really not buying the " its safe " party line on

Fukushima. The reports are so mixed swinging between no contamination/fallout to

the core's exposed and we're all going to die. Me and my thyroid gland intend

intend to be fully prepared, so if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it.

By the way have checked 50 plus on line sites and they are all all completely

sold out, which i think is telling.

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A doc on radio show here in the US says to just buy some Iodine in the health

food store. I have some for my thryroid here in dropper form. Loni

> Anybody know how or where? I'm really not buying the " its safe " party

> line on Fukushima. The reports are so mixed swinging between no

> contamination/fallout to the core's exposed and we're all going to die.

> Me and my thyroid gland intend intend to be fully prepared, so if anyone

> has any suggestions I'd appreciate it. By the way have checked 50 plus on

> line sites and they are all all completely sold out, which i think is

> telling.

>

> A

>

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Do you mind posting a links?

Thanks

A

From: nil <cindiwonderer@...>

Subject: Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

Date: Tuesday, 15 March, 2011, 10:54

 

Hi all. You may wish to join iodine group. There is a recent discussion on

this subject .

Best wishes

Nil

Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

> Do you have any thoughts as to how serious this may or may not be. You

> always have such a level head on such matters.

I wasn't planning on worrying about it... and I live on the west coast of

the USA...

Marc

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Please keep us informed, .

 

Thanks

A

> Anybody know how or where? I'm really not buying the " its safe " party line on

Fukushima. The reports are so mixed swinging between no contamination/fallout to

the core's exposed and we're all going to die. Me and my thyroid gland intend

intend to be fully prepared, so if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it.

By the way have checked 50 plus on line sites and they are all all completely

sold out, which i think is telling.

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You can buy from www.iherb.com They ship overseas as far as I know

I have a code, TEV-814 you can use for $5 off your first order. Anyone can use

it, that's my reward for spreading the word. They have really good prices and

cheap shipping

Steve

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> Anybody know how or where? I'm really not buying the " its safe " party line on

Fukushima. The reports are so mixed swinging between no contamination/fallout to

the core's exposed and we're all going to die. Me and my thyroid gland intend

intend to be fully prepared, so if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it.

By the way have checked 50 plus on line sites and they are all all completely

sold out, which i think is telling.

>

> A

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http://www.radiationnetwork.com/index.htm Here's a monitor link.

It doesn't however measure the radioactive particulate from the cesium,

strontium, uranium and plutonium that is here/coming.

I think it would be prudent to have the iodine on hand, because chances are high

US reactors will go down the road too.

All the detox. things we use here are helpful for our already existing radiation

sickness can be applied to this stuff as well.

Great to know you are watching for us all ! Wish it could read alpha

particles too.

Also, having enough necessary elements that are close to the unwanted, will help

prevent uptake of the nasty ones, just like eliminating mercury or aluminum.

I can't find the page, but it's out there. When deficient in say selenium,

certain elements are absorbed into their spaces, likewise with chromium, etc. So

being well mineralized will help keep your body from being so friendly to the

unwanted elements.

~ Snoshoe

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> Please keep us informed, .

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> Thanks

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> All the detox. things we use here are helpful for our already existing

> radiation sickness can be applied to this stuff as well.

Yes, I agree... for ES, some of us are already taking antioxidants,

minerals, thyroid support supplements, and radiation-protective

herbs (e.g. ginseng, tumeric). A " normal person " is doing none

of this.

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Hi, Betty,

 

THis used to be an over the counter supplement, but about a decade ago they made

it prescription only here in the states.  I took it to keep mucus under

control (for chronic bronchial asthma).  I no longer have a prescription for it

and I am kicking myself for that, too--I have been going to go back to the

doctor for years for one and kept putting it off.  If you can, get SSKI

potassium iodide.  Some are just taking iodine tablets for the nuke fallout,

tho.

 

I hope all is well with you; I have missed you posting lately,

Diane

From: betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@...>

Subject: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 4:11 PM

 

Anybody know how or where? I'm really not buying the " its safe " party line on

Fukushima. The reports are so mixed swinging between no contamination/fallout to

the core's exposed and we're all going to die. Me and my thyroid gland intend

intend to be fully prepared, so if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it.

By the way have checked 50 plus on line sites and they are all all completely

sold out, which i think is telling.

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hi, again,

 

I am very sensitive to iodine and I like the liquid drops--just put one drop in

a large bottle of water and shake up.  Then you don't even need to drink the

entire bottle of water--just drink a small amount at a time.

 

Diane

> Anybody know how or where? I'm really not buying the " its safe " party

> line on Fukushima. The reports are so mixed swinging between no

> contamination/fallout to the core's exposed and we're all going to die.

> Me and my thyroid gland intend intend to be fully prepared, so if anyone

> has any suggestions I'd appreciate it. By the way have checked 50 plus on

> line sites and they are all all completely sold out, which i think is

> telling.

>

> A

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

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Hi Diane

I am also sensitive to iodine. What do you think causes this problem?

thanks

nil

Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

hi, again,

I am very sensitive to iodine and I like the liquid drops--just put one drop

in a large bottle of water and shake up. Then you don't even need to drink the

entire bottle of water--just drink a small amount at a time.

Diane

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> I am also sensitive to iodine. What do you think causes this problem?

Well they say that some people are allergic to iodine, so that might

account for some problems...

Otherwise, iodine can displace a lot of toxins that are in your body,

so you can have a bad reaction to all of these toxins that have now

entered your bloodstream. If this is the problem, then you should

be able to start out with a low amount and build up over time.

Marc

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Thanks so much Marc.

I hope it is as you say because I am having some kidney pain when I take iodine

and this really worries me.My creatinin and urea is fine so not sure what that

kidney pain means.

best wishes

nil

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> I am also sensitive to iodine. What do you think causes this problem?

Well they say that some people are allergic to iodine, so that might

account for some problems...

Otherwise, iodine can displace a lot of toxins that are in your body,

so you can have a bad reaction to all of these toxins that have now

entered your

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I don't know your pain cause, but what might help your kidneys (I used after

auto accident), 1/2t. bakingsoda in glass water and bromelain.

Box says you can use up to 7x/day on the baking soda for heartburn.

~ Snoshoe

>

> Thanks so much Marc.

>

> I hope it is as you say because I am having some kidney pain when I take

iodine and this really worries me.My creatinin and urea is fine so not sure what

that kidney pain means.

> best wishes

> nil

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>

> > I am also sensitive to iodine. What do you think causes this problem?

>

> Well they say that some people are allergic to iodine, so that might

> account for some problems...

>

> Otherwise, iodine can displace a lot of toxins that are in your body,

> so you can have a bad reaction to all of these toxins that have now

> entered your

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I don't know about anywhere else, but I can say as of yesterday locally we have

a reading of 5mSv (500mrad). I'm in MT. The readings

have gradually increased since Tue. Local guy has a meter.

~ Snoshoe

>

> Actually, since the half life of radioactive iodine (I-131) is 8 days,

> it will essentially burn out about the time it crosses the east coast of

> the USA. Hence, I doubt you will get any I-131 in Europe. The purpose of

> taking Potassium Iodine is to fill up the receptor sites in the thyroid

> and other body tissues, so there is no place for the radioactive iodine

> to attach. Since I have already been treating my hypothroid and low body

> temperature with iodine from vitaroyalproducts.com, I'm as prepared as

> can be.

>

> The other half of the fallout, will be Cs-137 (Cesium-137), and there

> are no precautions we can take, besides the standard nuclear fallout

> things, like staying inside, and not letting the outside air in while it

> is above alert levels. I understand there was a lot of Cs137 in eastern

> europe after Cherynobyl.

>

> The more reactors they _admit_ on the news having a problem, the more

> worried I'll be. Only time will say how many microRems/hr we will get

> here. I have a beta and gamma radiation detector, so I'll know if or

> when it arrives.

>

>

>

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With regards to kidney pain, it is entirely possible that the Iodine is detoxing

the body at too fast of a rate, which would over-load the kidneys.

This happens frequently with oral doses of any chelating substance. A safer way

to use Iodine is to use it transdermally- via the skin. Applying

Iodine drops to the belly button or bottom of feet in SMALL DOSES** only a few

drops at a time, will bypass the kidneys and liver, thereby

being much gentler on organs, such as the kidneys and liver. In cases where

people are ultra sensitive to supplements, using very low doses

and applying to skin instead of swallowing, may make supplementation much easier

for the body to handle. *This is a case of more is NOT

always better....start slow and with LOW doses...and try taking the liquid

Iodine via the skin. And slowly, very slowly, build up the amt you take.

Baking Soda , a quarter teaspoon with a glass of water...helps the kidneys

tremendouly. Google Mark Sircus Baking Soda/Sodium Bicarbonate

for more information on this.

Blessings,

Lizzie

From: cindiwonderer@...

Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:27:30 +0200

Subject: Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

Thanks so much Marc.

I hope it is as you say because I am having some kidney pain when I take iodine

and this really worries me.My creatinin and urea is fine so not sure what that

kidney pain means.

best wishes

nil

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> I am also sensitive to iodine. What do you think causes this problem?

Well they say that some people are allergic to iodine, so that might

account for some problems...

Otherwise, iodine can displace a lot of toxins that are in your body,

so you can have a bad reaction to all of these toxins that have now

entered your

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snoshoe_2 wrote:

> I don't know about anywhere else, but I can say as of yesterday locally we

have a reading of 5mSv (500mrad). I'm in MT. The readings

> have gradually increased since Tue. Local guy has a meter.

>

>

Wow, I assume that is a per hour measurement?? The normal units on

meters is Micro (u), not Milli (m).

I did get a spike yesterday about noon, and again this morning, of 39

and 44 ur/h (micro rem per hour) respectively. However it was only a

spike, and the next readings were 24,26,20 yesterday, and 8,40,12,22

this morning. Yesterday evening was back down to 12-18, and today is

back to normal, 12-20 ur/h.

So my average is still below 30 ur/h (or 0.03 mrem/h, or 0.30 uSv/h),

but I barely see enough of an elevation to be a possible bit of Japan

drifting past.

The increase was too brief for me to tell if it was normal, and too

small here when I was looking to hit my alarm.

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Hi Lizzie

I am having this problem even at very small doses. Last time I tried it I put 1

drop of 5 percent lugols into 1 glass of water and took only one teaspoonful of

this solution per day. Couple of days later I developed kidney pain with this

dose.I am really very worried about this situation.

You say

" A safer way to use Iodine is to use it transdermally- via the skin. Applying

Iodine drops to the belly button or bottom of feet in SMALL DOSES** only a few

drops at a time, will bypass the kidneys and liver, thereby

being much gentler on organs, such as the kidneys and liver. "

Would it by pass kidneys and liver or would it bypass only digestive system.It

will still enter blood stream so I don't think it will bypass kidneys and liver.

Am I missing something here?

thanks very much for the information you have given.

nil

RE: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

With regards to kidney pain, it is entirely possible that the Iodine is

detoxing the body at too fast of a rate, which would over-load the kidneys.

This happens frequently with oral doses of any chelating substance. A safer

way to use Iodine is to use it transdermally- via the skin. Applying

Iodine drops to the belly button or bottom of feet in SMALL DOSES** only a

few drops at a time, will bypass the kidneys and liver, thereby

being much gentler on organs, such as the kidneys and liver. In cases where

people are ultra sensitive to supplements, using very low doses

and applying to skin instead of swallowing, may make supplementation much

easier for the body to handle. *This is a case of more is NOT

always better....start slow and with LOW doses...and try taking the liquid

Iodine via the skin. And slowly, very slowly, build up the amt you take.

Baking Soda , a quarter teaspoon with a glass of water...helps the kidneys

tremendouly. Google Mark Sircus Baking Soda/Sodium Bicarbonate

for more information on this.

Blessings,

Lizzie

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5% Lugol's is very very strong. I normally use 2% and it is Nascent Iodine, a

form much easier for the body to metabolize. As for bypassing the kidneys/liver,

a better way of saying this would be to say that it is a different metabolizing

process. It's not that the Iodine doesn't reach the kidneys etc doing it via the

skin- its more the WAY it is delivered and used in the body. When you take a

supplement orally, via the mouth, it enters the body thru the mouth, goes down

thru the digestive sytem, but when you take a substance thru the skin, the

delivery method is different. It enters the body thru the skin cells and is

delivered that way thru the cells. It's a much more gentler on the body.

Using 2% or even 1% and DILUTED in filtered water is what I would try, in your

case. Some people when they are just starting on the health journey, their

body's are already over loaded..so as Iodine does help cleanse the body, it is

quite easy to over load the kidneys...too much is dumped way too fast. This used

to happen to me all the time. What I found that helped me, was to do juice and

raw veggie fastings, sometimes I would just blend veggies and add alot of

FILTERED water, to make the smoothie very liquidy...and I would do this for 2

days , every other week.....I think I did this around 10 times before I started

to see a difference. And sometimes I would crush my vitamins/supplements and add

them to the smoothie. Solid food has to be digested by the liver. LIquid gives

the liver a chance to rest and cleanse.

A bit a warped humor...we have all these holidays..Valentines day, fathers day,

etc...but we really need a " give the liver the day off " day. We can do that by

juicing or just using a blender to make your veggies liquidy.....the liver is

the garbage can of the body. When this gets full...there's no place for the

toxins to go. So the kidneys become backed up...over loaded...

BAking Soda, starting with a 1/4 teaspoon for sensitive people, in a glass of

water..is a safe way to help the kidneys too.

So if all you have is LUgols, a suggestion would be one drop in 4 oz of filtered

water....and apply just one drop of this on the bottom of your feet. Maybe try

this AND the Baking Soda, which will help the kidneys. See how this works. You

can also soak your feet in BAking Soda...

Lizzie

From: cindiwonderer@...

Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:32:09 +0200

Subject: Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

Hi Lizzie

I am having this problem even at very small doses. Last time I tried it I put 1

drop of 5 percent lugols into 1 glass of water and took only one teaspoonful of

this solution per day. Couple of days later I developed kidney pain with this

dose.I am really very worried about this situation.

You say

" A safer way to use Iodine is to use it transdermally- via the skin. Applying

Iodine drops to the belly button or bottom of feet in SMALL DOSES** only a few

drops at a time, will bypass the kidneys and liver, thereby

being much gentler on organs, such as the kidneys and liver. "

Would it by pass kidneys and liver or would it bypass only digestive system.It

will still enter blood stream so I don't think it will bypass kidneys and liver.

Am I missing something here?

thanks very much for the information you have given.

nil

RE: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

With regards to kidney pain, it is entirely possible that the Iodine is detoxing

the body at too fast of a rate, which would over-load the kidneys.

This happens frequently with oral doses of any chelating substance. A safer way

to use Iodine is to use it transdermally- via the skin. Applying

Iodine drops to the belly button or bottom of feet in SMALL DOSES** only a few

drops at a time, will bypass the kidneys and liver, thereby

being much gentler on organs, such as the kidneys and liver. In cases where

people are ultra sensitive to supplements, using very low doses

and applying to skin instead of swallowing, may make supplementation much easier

for the body to handle. *This is a case of more is NOT

always better....start slow and with LOW doses...and try taking the liquid

Iodine via the skin. And slowly, very slowly, build up the amt you take.

Baking Soda , a quarter teaspoon with a glass of water...helps the kidneys

tremendouly. Google Mark Sircus Baking Soda/Sodium Bicarbonate

for more information on this.

Blessings,

Lizzie

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Hi, Nil,

 

It is my understanding that iodine sensitivity occurs in celiac disease. 

Exactly why, I don't know.  I have celiac disease; do you?  (Or gluten

intolerance of a different type?)

 

Diane

From: nil <cindiwonderer@...>

Subject: Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 7:25 PM

 

Hi Diane

I am also sensitive to iodine. What do you think causes this problem?

thanks

nil

Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

hi, again,

I am very sensitive to iodine and I like the liquid drops--just put one drop in

a large bottle of water and shake up. Then you don't even need to drink the

entire bottle of water--just drink a small amount at a time.

Diane

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Interesting Marc,

 

That would account for why celiacs have problems with iodine--leaky gut and bbb

would make for more than the usual amounts of toxins.

 

Thanks for the info,

Diane

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Subject: Re: Buying potassium Iodide in the uk?

Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 9:45 PM

 

> I am also sensitive to iodine. What do you think causes this problem?

Well they say that some people are allergic to iodine, so that might

account for some problems...

Otherwise, iodine can displace a lot of toxins that are in your body,

so you can have a bad reaction to all of these toxins that have now

entered your bloodstream. If this is the problem, then you should

be able to start out with a low amount and build up over time.

Marc

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Thanks very much Lizzie.

That was helpful

Nil

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5% Lugol's is very very strong. I normally use 2% and it is Nascent Iodine, a

form much easier for the body to metabolize. As for bypassing the kidneys/liver,

a better way of saying this would be to say that it is a different metabolizing

process. It's not that the Iodine doesn't reach the kidneys etc doing it via the

skin- its more the WAY it is delivered and used in the body. When you take a

supplement orally, via the mouth, it enters the body thru the mouth, goes down

thru the digestive sytem, but when you take a substance thru the skin, the

delivery method is different. It enters the body thru the skin cells and is

delivered that way thru the cells. It's a much more gentler on the body.

Using 2% or even 1% and DILUTED in filtered water is what I would try, in your

case. Some people when they are just starting on the health journey, their

body's are already over loaded..so as Iodine does help cleanse the body, it is

quite easy to over load the kidneys...too much is dumped way too fast. This used

to happen to me all the

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