Re: mind if I smoke?

[Guest guest]

I have to admire your courage - that is to just come out and admit you're a

smoker in a group where you're bound to get a few lectures (and you probably

get them from people as it is).

CRON would be better for a smoker than non-CRONing.........it's protective

from just the things that smoking causes.....no guarantees though....also

how much smoking are we talking about here?

But why go to all the trouble of changing your diet without changing the

rest of your lifestyle?

on 5/1/2004 7:57 PM, bjtoll@... at bjtoll@... wrote:

> Does anyone have any information concerning whether or not following

> a CR diet has any benefit for smokers? Besides all of the obvious -

> statistics re. cancer, lung disease, heart disease - would it be of

> any advantage to a smoker to follow the CR diet?

[Guest guest]

I suppose it seems better to do certain things that are beneficial to

my health - vegetarian diet, increased cosnumption of water

(filtered), regular exercise, meditation and yoga for stress

reduction, greatly reducing consumption of saturated fats, and,

possibly - following a CR diet ... as opposed to doing absolutely

nothing that might be considered as advantageous to my health ...

because I have one unhealthy addiction?

>

> > Does anyone have any information concerning whether or not

following

> > a CR diet has any benefit for smokers? Besides all of the

obvious -

> > statistics re. cancer, lung disease, heart disease - would it be

of

> > any advantage to a smoker to follow the CR diet?

[Guest guest]

-----Original Message-----

From: bjtoll@...

Subject: [ ] mind if I smoke?

Does anyone have any information concerning whether or not following

a CR diet has any benefit for smokers? Besides all of the obvious -

statistics re. cancer, lung disease, heart disease - would it be of

any advantage to a smoker to follow the CR diet?

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There is very little actual CR research on humans. Since, I expect it would

be difficult to get mice to smoke tiny cigarettes there is no specific

research that answers your question.

Perhaps you could extrapolate from research where they have taken animals

with a genetic tendency to die young from cancer or heart disease and

successfully mitigated that early demise with CRON.

So yes, it appears that CRON might be beneficial against the negative impact

of smoking. Further nicotine is a powerful appetite suppressant and lighting

up might be an easy way to deal with hunger. I find it very unlikely that

the benefit of CRON would outweigh the multiple systemic insults of smoking.

As an engineer I'm inclined to approach this from a cost/benefit basis. It

seems the benefit from quitting smoking would be far greater relative to the

effort it would take, than the modest benefit of practicing CRON while

smoking. Getting optimal or adequate nutrition while keeping calories low is

not trivial. Smoking and simply not eating much isn't even close. That just

sounds like what many smokers already do.

Good luck. It's your body, your life, your call.

JR

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[Guest guest]

Hi All,

john roberts and bjtoll discussed bjtoll's smoking addiction.

Smoking causes much premature loss of life in established scientific

literature documented in highly reputable journals. Relaxation

techniques and filtering water are trivial or nonexistent methods of

prolonging the length of life. Wearing seat belts and watching

traffic as a pedestrian are of much greater proven benefit. The

benefit of achieving greater than adequate nutrition has little or no

proven life-extension benefit for ad lib or calorie-restricted eating

patterns.

Do I mind if you smoke? Not at all. I also support euthanasia. At

your age and health, it seems counter indicated, but it is your

decision and/or ability to deal with your addiction.

I apologize if this message appears to be condescending. I have the

mental disease of anorexia nervosa. My quality of life is not of

great value to me. I do not wish to die earlier than necessary.

The forgoing are my opinions based on my possibly inadequate

knowledge.

Cheers, Al Pater.