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In a message dated 6/15/2004 8:30:51 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats@... writes:

Here is a website that has alot of good info also and some interesting reading

http://www.wholesaleherbs.com/yeast.html

Suzi

WOW !!!

here's a brief excerpt from this site you shared, and I notice hives are listed, as are acne, AND the first thing that happened to me before Any of the stuff I mentioned in the letter was a BAD case of acne ( got rid of that too, but ... my what an impressive list this is!):

Symptoms of a yeast imbalance would include mood swings, irritability, depression, headaches, lethargy, gastritis, colitis, bloated feeling in the stomach, fluid in the ears, various rashes, itches, cirrhosis, acne, floaters or spots in the eyes, blurred vision, excessive tearing, burning of the eyes, dry mouth, cough, bad breath, blisters, sore throat, aching muscles, white patches on skin, various kinds of edema (swelling), joint problems, nasal congestion, stiffness, post nasal drip, cystitis, kidney problems, bladder infections, fatigue, loss of appetite, sleeping problems, numbness, tingling, endometriosis, cysts, cramping, PMS, hay fever, asthma, food sensitivity, hives, thrush (yeast in the mouth), colic and the list goes on."

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Get some plain yogurt... very good for yeast infections.

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In a message dated 6/15/2004 8:30:51 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats@... writes:

He also claimed that the yeasts produce toxins that weaken the immune system, which is also adversely affected by nutritional deficiencies, sugar consumption, and exposure to environmental molds and chemicals. To correct these alleged problems, he prescribes allergenic extracts, antifungal drugs, vitamin and mineral supplements, and diets that avoid refined carbohydrates, processed foods, and (initially) fruits and milk.Here is a website that has alot of good info also and some interesting reading http://www.wholesaleherbs.com/yeast.htmlSuziThanks Suzi, I did do some web searches and read about the yeast producing their own toxins. Also about the "die-off" reaction. I wonder if Thuja would be a good anti-fungal? I was drinking LOTS of Pau d Arco

tea with the extract in it from the health food store, and that may be why it's settling down as Pau d Arco is known to combat systemic yeast. Still wondering if Thuja would also be good for that. Will check out the web link you shared. As my husband is having trouble with yeast, and this will be info we both can use...Blessings,Cathie

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On Jun 15, 2004, at 9:12 PM, SophiasDream@... wrote:

> Hi All,

>        I'm new to the group and Suzie invited me ( thanks Suzie ) and

> I'm glad to be here.

>        I have a question.  Re Hives.

>    Is there any basis to Hives being caused by systemic yeast

> infection?Hives was likely an allergic response to the antibiotic.

Welcome Cathe,

Essential oils could may have cleared up the infection more than likely

but it is not as simple as putting tea tree on it and no essential oils

should be used on the body neat. Feel free to ask questions any time

regarding a natural reponse. I also don't know the quality of what you

used either or what condition it was in and how it was applied. Chances

are you were allergic the the antibiotic AND the antibiotic caused a

yeast infection and lowered immunity since that is what they do.

You say you are treating yourself for yeast. But how? If it is another

medicine chances are you are causing more imbalance. UTI's and yeast

infection are very well treated with herbs and aromatherapy, diet and

supplements - very, very well- by getting at the source and bringing

balance naturally- not creating more imbalance and adding more toxic

material.

Regarding your questions I would absolutely without a doubt get off the

medication asap. Yes, it sounds like you are using essential oils in a

way that may be causing sensitization too- the orange oil was not a

good choice either if you had a rash. Orange oil is not technically

speaking an essential oil anyway- it is an expressed citrus oil made

from the rinds. Stop putting neat essential oils on your skin- you

sound like you are getting very poor information regarding

aromatherapy- even with natural remedies you can do harm- it is not the

remedy really but how it is used.

Anyway, just lot's of choices that made things worse and caused more

imbalance. It has nothing to do with systemic yeast- I would not even

go there. You are allergic to the meds imo. Stop the meds. If you have

a condition please ask for help. For now if you want to clear it up

take organic oatmeal baths- do not use chemicals of any kind, eliminate

wheat and dairy (unless raw or some yogurt), add essential fatty acids,

eat a clean nutritious diet, get lot's of rest.

Given all the issues currently I would stop any meds and add almost

nothing until things settle down. If you have a UTI or a yeast

infection still I would treat it naturally. Yogurt can be used to give

relief too from the rashes and the yeast infection. The oatmeal baths

will help the rash. Take a good echinacea/goldenseal to boost your

immune system and fight infection.

Avoid dairy, anything fermented, caffeine, alcohol, sugar, wheat,

processed grain.

Hth!

Pure, Organic Aromatherapy

http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

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Create the Life You Love!

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In a message dated 6/15/2004 9:26:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, @... writes:

You say you are treating yourself for yeast. But how?

I cut all sugar out of my diet. Been taking acidopholus regularly. Drinking lots of distlled water with organic lemon in it. I also heard cabbage is helpful in controlling yeast, so I've been having cabbage at lunch with lemon and olive oil on it and also lots of Raw Garlic, as I've heard that controls yeast. I also been drinking LOTS of Pau d Arco tea with additional Pau d Arco herbal extract ( frfom Gaia Herbs ) added to each glass of tea I drink.

No more signs ofthe arm rash this morning. My arms are totally clear. The other rash is cleared up as well, so I guess my treatment is working. AFter dinner last night however, ONE hive popped out on the back of my arm and I wondered if that was yeast related. According to the link Suzie shared, yeast can indeed cause hives.

Blessings,

Cathie

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In a message dated 6/15/2004 9:26:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, @... writes:

If it is another

medicine chances are you are causing more imbalance.

The cephalexin was the first anti-biotic I've taken in years and seeing how much havoc it wreaked with my system, I can guarantee you I'll not be rushing in for another. I was raised by a health nut mom, and am aware of the hazards of anti-biotics. I was reluctant to take the Cephalexin, but I took it anyways, and ended up kinda regre3tting it, though it HAS been a learning experi3ence.

Blessings,

Cathie

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In a message dated 6/15/2004 9:26:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, @... writes:

Anyway, just lot's of choices that made things worse and caused more

imbalance. It has nothing to do with systemic yeast- I would not even

go there. You are allergic to the meds imo. Stop the meds. If you have

a condition please ask for help.

I believe I did have yeast because of how my mouth felt in the aftermath of the drug. I believe I have now after weeks of treating for yeast, begun to achieve a balance in my system. One of the first side effects listed for cephalexin is vaginosis or, yeast. The rash didn't crop up on the groin til AFTER I was through with the entire 10 day round of anti-biotics.

Blessings,

Cathie ( p.s. my mom is a vegan )

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In a message dated 6/15/2004 9:26:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, @... writes:

If you have a UTI or a yeast

infection still I would treat it naturally. Yogurt can be used to give

relief too from the rashes and the yeast infection. The oatmeal baths

will help the rash. Take a good echinacea/goldenseal to boost your

immune system and fight infection.

Avoid dairy, anything fermented, caffeine, alcohol, sugar, wheat,

processed grain.

I gave myself yogurt douches after the cephalexin round. I don't eat processed grains. I suppose it's possible the reaction of the skin due to the essential oil was a die off reaction of yeast in the skin, because I have never had any reaction like that to either tea tree or lavendar.

Blessings,

Cathie

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I know too much about yeast to go to a doc and ask for a drug to treat it. I might be short on knowledge in other ways, but that much is clear. I've only taken anti-biotics a total of three times in my whole life. I"m 41. The cephalexin is the first time I took an anti-biotic since I had teeth pulled about 7 years ago.

So, now you know the rest of the story....

:-]

Peace,

Cathie

In a message dated 6/16/2004 8:20:04 AM Mountain Daylight Time, @... writes:

Right, the misunderstanding came when you said you were currently

treating a yeast infection. I was clear you had finished the

antibiotic.

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On Jun 16, 2004, at 8:03 AM, SophiasDream@... wrote:

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> Anyway, just lot's of choices that made things worse and caused more

> imbalance. It has nothing to do with systemic yeast- I would not even

> go there. You are allergic to the meds imo. Stop the meds. If you have

> a condition please ask for help.

>

>

> I believe I did have yeast because of how my mouth felt in the

> aftermath of the drug.  I believe I have now after weeks of treating

> for yeast, begun to achieve a balance in my system.  One of the first

> side effects listed for cephalexin is vaginosis or, yeast.  The rash

> didn't crop up on the groin til AFTER I was through with the entire 10

> day round of anti-biotics.

>

>

Yes I agree that the yeast infection was a result of the medication-

that is what I was saying. The rash was also a side effect likely of

taking the medication- it's all related- if you allergic at all the

rash is likely. if your immune system is struggling- all kinds of

responses like rash are common. Most people have an overgrowth of

candida anyway and will benefit from natural treatment. it sounds like

you (and dh from what you said) need to treat anyway.

Feel free to ask if you need help.

Take care,

Pure, Organic Aromatherapy

http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

Aromatherapist & Certified Life Coach

Create the Life You Love!

http://www.WholeLifeCoach.biz

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