Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Re this: " Even in the orient fermented soy products seem to be positively associated with increased prostate cancer risk. Perhaps, again, it is the fat component that is the problem, as it was in the Physicians Health Study, not the soy protein. " Asian fermented soy products are cultured with various microbes, the one most commonly used being a species of Aspergillus mold ('though NOT the highly-carcinogenic species Aspergillus flavus [unsure of exact spelling]). I know that there have been studies done to see whether there was a correlation betwen consumption of mold-cultured soy products and cancer (particularly stomach cancer, which is VERY common in the Orient), and I believe that these studies did show a positive correlation. (This info is from a conversation that I had in the 1980s with a guest speaker at a " Biology of Cancer " course at San State University, not from my own reading or research.) Soy sauce is the most commonly-eaten mold-cultured soy product. Tempeh is another. Sake (rice wine) MAY be cultured with Aspergillus mold, as well, but I'm not 100% certain of that. I rarely use soy sauce or drink sake, and I haven't tried tempeh. But I think that the risk would come from consuming those products REGULARLY, not occasionally. Natto is cultured with a bacterium, and it is reputed to have excellent blood-thinning and fibrinolytic/thrombolytic properties. However, I find the very SIGHT of natto to be revolting, and I doubt that I'd like it any better " in person " . I know that the beneficial enzyme in natto can be consumed in pill form. If anyone has tried nattokinase capsules (or natto straight-up) and has had good results with it, then I'd love to hear fro myou. Cyn Click on the Gallery Link to View My Newly-Posted Art http://groups.msn.com/AstarteGalleryandDecor/shoebox.msnw?albumlist=2 Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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