Re: PowerBar founder Maxwell dies

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, I really " enjoy " hearing about some person's untimely death! If

someone practicing CR drops dead at age 50, are you going to quit CR?

>From: " old542000 " <apater@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] PowerBar founder Maxwell dies

>Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:34:30 -0000

>

>Hi All,

>

>Since it is calories, calories, calories that count for longevity, I

>thought that you might enjoy:

>

>http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/20/obit.maxwell.ap/

>

>PowerBar founder Maxwell dies of a heart attack

>Sunday, March 21, 2004 Posted: 0001 GMT (0801 HKT)

[Guest guest]

Al did use an unfortunate choice of words. Also, I didn't get the point.

Is the power bar loaded with calories? Is that your point Al???

on 4/9/2004 5:52 AM, Dowling at dowlic@... wrote:

> Oh yeah, I really " enjoy " hearing about some person's untimely death! If

> someone practicing CR drops dead at age 50, are you going to quit CR?

>

>

>> From: " old542000 " <apater@...>

>> Reply-

>>

>> Subject: [ ] PowerBar founder Maxwell dies

>> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:34:30 -0000

>>

>> Hi All,

>>

>> Since it is calories, calories, calories that count for longevity, I

>> thought that you might enjoy:

>>

>> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/20/obit.maxwell.ap/

>>

>> PowerBar founder Maxwell dies of a heart attack

>> Sunday, March 21, 2004 Posted: 0001 GMT (0801 HKT)

[Guest guest]

Hi folks:

Well what I got out of Al's link was that his wife was

a 'nutritionist' and he died of a heart attack at a rather early

age.

This very much reinforces my previous views that are based

on 'nutritionists' and 'dieticians' I have encountered. I have no

idea where they get their qualifications from. But my impression has

been that it would be dangerous to follow much of their advice.

Rodney.

>

> > Oh yeah, I really " enjoy " hearing about some person's untimely

death! If

> > someone practicing CR drops dead at age 50, are you going to quit

CR?

> >

> >

> >> From: " old542000 " <apater@m...>

> >> Reply-

> >>

> >> Subject: [ ] PowerBar founder Maxwell dies

> >> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:34:30 -0000

> >>

> >> Hi All,

> >>

> >> Since it is calories, calories, calories that count for

longevity, I

> >> thought that you might enjoy:

> >>

> >> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/20/obit.maxwell.ap/

> >>

> >> PowerBar founder Maxwell dies of a heart attack

> >> Sunday, March 21, 2004 Posted: 0001 GMT (0801 HKT)

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

See:

http://www.powerbar.com/

http://www.powerbar.com/Products/

http://www.powerbar.com/Products/Harvest/about.asp

http://www.powerbar.com/Products/Harvest/

" INGREDIENTS: ... Sugar, Salt, and Evaporated Cane Juice Syrup "

appears to not be CRON. 250 calories each appears to be not very

high. Vitamins and minerals are maybe better from a variety of

fruits and vegetables. For example, vitamin E is better from a

company such as AOR, since their product likely contains only the

alpha form.

Cheers, Al Pater.

> Al did use an unfortunate choice of words. Also, I didn't get the

point.

> Is the power bar loaded with calories? Is that your point Al???

>

....

> >

> >> From: " old542000 " <apater@m...>> >>

> >> Hi All,

> >>

> >> Since it is calories, calories, calories that count for

longevity, I

> >> thought that you might enjoy:

> >>

> >> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/20/obit.maxwell.ap/

> >>

> >> PowerBar founder Maxwell dies of a heart attack

> >> Sunday, March 21, 2004 Posted: 0001 GMT (0801 HKT)

[Guest guest]

The moraL: don't believe any claims of so-called " health foods " . READ the

LABEL.

on 4/9/2004 12:44 PM, old542000 at apater@... wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> See:

>

> http://www.powerbar.com/

>

> http://www.powerbar.com/Products/

>

> http://www.powerbar.com/Products/Harvest/about.asp

>

> http://www.powerbar.com/Products/Harvest/

>

> " INGREDIENTS: ... Sugar, Salt, and Evaporated Cane Juice Syrup "

> appears to not be CRON. 250 calories each appears to be not very

> high. Vitamins and minerals are maybe better from a variety of

> fruits and vegetables. For example, vitamin E is better from a

> company such as AOR, since their product likely contains only the

> alpha form.

>

> Cheers, Al Pater.

[Guest guest]

Hi All:

See:

Arab L.

Individualized nutritional recommendations: do we have the

measurements needed

to assess risk and make dietary recommendations?

Proc Nutr Soc. 2004 Feb;63(1):167-72.

PMID: 15070447 [PubMed - in process]

The pdf is available by requesting from old54200@...

Cheers, Al Pater.

--- In , " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...>

wrote:

....

> This very much reinforces my previous views that are based

> on 'nutritionists' and 'dieticians' I have encountered. I have no

> idea where they get their qualifications from. But my impression

has

> been that it would be dangerous to follow much of their advice.

[Guest guest]

The power bar was designed for getting marathon runners through the

so called " wall. " Or it might be appropriate for an after work out

recovery food for a body builder. Who wants to get carbs and protein

into his cells lickity split. Whether is did this or not would is

scientifically testable. It does not seem appropriate for CRON. When

do you need a massive carbohydrate rush followed by an insulin rush?

This fellow's death sounds like a case of too much of a good thing -

exercise - another testimony for moderation.

>

> ...

>

> > This very much reinforces my previous views that are based

> > on 'nutritionists' and 'dieticians' I have encountered. I have

no

> > idea where they get their qualifications from. But my

impression

> has

> > been that it would be dangerous to follow much of their advice.

[Guest guest]

That depends on the person it effects. SCD is a real issue, IMO, as is anorexia.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dowling

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:52 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] PowerBar founder Maxwell dies

Oh yeah, I really "enjoy" hearing about some person's untimely death! If someone practicing CR drops dead at age 50, are you going to quit CR?

[Guest guest]

FWIW I don't believe that PowerBars or the like are intended to be health

foods. To replenish glycogen stores depleted by strenuous exercise the

effective strategy involves quickly boosting blood sugar immediately after

or even during the later stages of endurance training.

I don't doubt that the general population associates such training aids with

health (incorrectly). Since some exercise bars include protein and other

nutrients, some people may even consider these for convenient meal

replacements. However the high GI carbs which are better for glycogen

replenishment are in direct opposition with healthy eating which prefers

lower GI carbs.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:48 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: PowerBar founder Maxwell dies

The moraL: don't believe any claims of so-called " health foods " . READ the

LABEL.

on 4/9/2004 12:44 PM, old542000 at apater@... wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> See:

>

> http://www.powerbar.com/

>

> http://www.powerbar.com/Products/

>

> http://www.powerbar.com/Products/Harvest/about.asp

>

> http://www.powerbar.com/Products/Harvest/

>

> " INGREDIENTS: ... Sugar, Salt, and Evaporated Cane Juice Syrup "

> appears to not be CRON. 250 calories each appears to be not very

> high. Vitamins and minerals are maybe better from a variety of

> fruits and vegetables. For example, vitamin E is better from a

> company such as AOR, since their product likely contains only the

> alpha form.

>

> Cheers, Al Pater.