Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Well folks, I know some of you will be a bit skeptical about the contents of this post. And so you should be. But if you doubt it, check for yourself .............. There is an error in this study. While it is really a rather trivial mistake, at the same time it has, in my opinion, an appreciable impact on the report's conclusions. The report considerably UNDERSTATES the benefits of CR to these mice!!! Read on if it interests you. The error is in the words: " After the second break point in the CR survival curve (31 months of age), the mortality rate approximated that of the control mice .......... " . [NOTE: Presumably mortality rate is defined as deaths during a given month as a proportion of those alive as of 12:01 am on the first day of that month.] Absolutely not! The mortality rate of the CR mice is substantially lower than that of the control mice continuously from age 22 months until there are no more control mice alive to compare with. I think the statement that the mortality rate approximated that of the control mice was made based on looking at the survival curve rather than from calculating mortality rates. [The data for both series are rather erratic. For example in the case of the control mice, lots of them died in months 28, 31 and 32, but few in months 29 and 30. Obviously this is just a normal data glitch in the nature of studies like this - there are sizeable variations also in the number of deaths from month to month among the CR mice. It helps if one smoothes out these erratic fluctuations in the mortality data.] Having done so, the mortality data for the period following month 31 (there is no dispute that the mortality rate of the CR mice is better before age 31 months) look like this: In the four months 32 through 35 the mortality rate of the control mice was 72% higher than the CR mice. In months 36 to 39 it was 40% higher. In month 40 it was 93% higher. In month 41 it was 135% higher. In month 42 all remaining control mice died - mortality was 100%. By comparison, among the CR mice only about one-fifth died and sixteen percent of the original CR mice were still alive. Although it may not appear to be the case when one looks at the survival curve, the mortality rate for the CR mice was dramatically better throughout the study from age 22 months onward. First it was shown in fruit flies that even when initiated much later in life, CR dramatically reduces mortality. Now Dr. Spindler et al. has demonstrated it in older mice. We are all hoping it will eventually be shown that something very similar is true of older humans. VIVA CR!!! And thanks to Dr. Spindler et al. for doing all this work for all of us to pore over, and smile about : ^ ))) Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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