GUAR WARNING

[Guest guest]

Warren: it is NOT advisable to eat large amounts of guar between meals.

1. It can cause a trip to the hospital emergency room

and

2. Guar must be eaten WITH meals to be beneficial in slowing gastric

emptying. As Walford states on pg 114 of Beyond: " Guar gum taken 2 minutes

before a meal has no effect; it must be incorporated into the meal. "

See: /message/3947

for the complete explanation.

Warren: I advise you to warn everyone about this.

on 4/20/2004 12:48 AM, Warren at warren.taylor@... wrote:

> Here's some wisdom to make CR a little easier:

>

> Pudding is taken very seriously by some of us who eat 2 or 3

> cups daily before any meal. The guar, cellulose, carob, and

> cocoa greatly diminish hunger, and have almost no calories.

> These puddings are rich in both soluble and insoluble fiber,

> very high in anti-oxidants, and best of all, they fill the

> belly full prior to eating -- important for us all, since an

> early pre-meal bellyful greatly diminishes meal size and takes

> the edge off hunger. It works fantastic.

>

> By eating the pudding half an hour before meals, it becomes

> almost impossible to overeat at mealtime, since you just

> aren't hungry any more when your stomach is full.

[Guest guest]

That's funny, Francesca. The line you quote from Walford

on pg 114, " Beyond the 120 Year Diet " , is missing.

The following quote from Walford looks like fiction:

> 2. ... As Walford states on pg 114 of Beyond:

> " Guar gum taken 2 minutes before a meal has no effect; it

> must be incorporated into the meal. "

What line # on pg 114, counting lines from the top?

Is this really Dr. Walford's quote? It violates biology.

Of course, the gastric emptying time is hours,

not 2 minutes, so anything taken anywhere near meal time

is incorporated into digestion of the meal. Were it not

so, Satietrol appetite suppressant wouldn't work.

The statement attributed to Walford is erroneous,

per human biology. It would be rare for Dr. Walford

to make such a serious mistake.

Also:

1) Warren is not recommending eating " guar only " as

a separate food, apart from meal times. It is part

of the meal: the beginning.

2) Warren is recommending the same as what the Satietrol

appetite suppressant program advocates. Consume as

beginning part of the meal, in advance of the rest

of the food.

3) It is unethical to label people as extremists when

they simply follow common dietary guidelines in

current accepted usage.

4) Satietrol uses guar as one of its main bulking agents

to suppress appetite.

5) Satietrol works well, is proven, and is lab tested on human

subjects for 30% food reduction. The way Warren uses

guar follows the Satietrol example.

-- Warren

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:52 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] GUAR WARNING

>

> Warren: it is NOT advisable to eat large amounts of guar

> between meals.

>

> 1. It can cause a trip to the hospital emergency room

>

Warren is not recommending eating " guar only " between meals.

It is part of the meal proper: the beginning.

> and

>

> 2. Guar must be eaten WITH meals to be beneficial in slowing

> gastric emptying.

Warren is recommending eating guar as the first part of

the meal, 15 to 30 minutes prior to the remainder.

This is what the Satietrol program advocates too.

> As Walford states on pg 114 of Beyond:

> " Guar gum taken 2 minutes before a meal has no effect; it

> must be incorporated into the meal. "

Of course, the gastric emptying time is hours,

not 2 minutes, so anything taken anywhere near

meal time is incorporated into a meal.

This statement is erroneous, per human biology.

>

> See: /message/3947

> for the complete explanation.

Gastric emptying time is hours. The statement looks false.

Did Dr. Walford write " the quotes " ? Who wrote them?

>

> Warren: I advise you to warn everyone about this.

>

Warren appears to be using the same counsel as advised

by the dietary appetite suppressant Satietrol, which

use accepted standards in common dietary practice.

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on 4/20/2004 12:48 AM, Warren wrote:

Here's some wisdom to make CR a little easier:

Pudding is taken very seriously by some of us who eat 2 or 3 cups

daily before any meal. The guar, cellulose, carob, and cocoa greatly

diminish hunger, and have almost no calories.

These puddings are rich in both soluble and insoluble fiber, very high

in anti-oxidants, and best of all, they fill the belly full prior to

eating -- important for us all, since an early pre-meal bellyful

greatly diminishes meal size and takes the edge off hunger. It works

fantastic.

By eating the pudding half an hour before meals, it becomes almost

impossible to overeat at mealtime, since you just aren't hungry any

more when your stomach is full.

[Guest guest]

I may have gotten the page wrong, but it's in his book. The quote is direct.

Why would I make it up? I'll find it later (I hope) and post the correct

page.

Obviously this didn't come from Warren but from some smart-alec.

on 4/20/2004 2:36 PM, Warren at warren.taylor@... wrote:

> That's funny, Francesca. The line you quote from Walford

> on pg 114, " Beyond the 120 Year Diet " , is missing.