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I'm 71, also Peg, and have been studying the subject for years and years, struggling to CR without much success but with relentless hope. I see every evidence here in Florida that obesity is killing and have great confidence that the CR lifestyle is the answer.

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We've never polled the members by age. And even if we did, we never get

100% participation in a poll, so there's no way of knowing. But there are

certainly admitted senior citizens here (over 60) and I am among them as

noted in the Washington Post article recently published.

The important thing for you to know is that according to the scientific

data, older animals can gain health and more life from CRON even when

started late in life. But it must be moderate CRON or you can actually harm

yourself and your health as stated by Walford in his book.

BTW Walford started CRON on himself at about 67 years old , and although he

died relatively young for a CRONIE, the circumstances appear to have been

unavoidable. See the file: " Dr Walford's Posts " .

on 5/23/2004 1:11 AM, Peg Diamond at enmuffins@... wrote:

> I'm a newbie here and am wondering how many 'over 70's' are

> on his list. It would be interesting to know how CRON is working

> for you :-)

>

> Canary Peg

>

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Peg,

I, for one, started CRON last September 2003 at age 72.

I have lost 25 pounds over these 8 months and I believe I have

arrested the continued advancement of a progressive condition called

peripheral neuropathy. I am continuing CRON at approximately 1500

calories a day, hoping it will eventually bring about a reversal of

the neuropathy.

I am running 10-12 miles a week and I am self-employed, working

full-time as a business consultant; I am in relatively good health

except for the neuropathy and mild obesity over the past 10 years. I

have no other serious maladies, take no prescriptives, have no

disabilities or handicaps, although eyesight and hearing are showing

aging.

I plan to run the marathon again in 2005.

Most people look at me in disbelief when I tell them my true age. I

appear to be about 10 years younger.

I am a modified vegetarian, eating no dairy, only very little

salmon, sardines, and occasionally, some chicken breast.

Wallace Dickson

Washington, DC

wdickson@...

-----Original Message-----

From: Peg Diamond [mailto:enmuffins@...]

Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 1:12 AM

Subject: [ ] Over 70's

I'm a newbie here and am wondering how many 'over 70's' are on his

list. It would be interesting to know how CRON is working for you

:-)

Canary Peg

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> Peg,

> I, for one, started CRON last September 2003 at age 72.

> I have lost 25 pounds over these 8 months and I believe I have

> arrested the continued advancement of a progressive

condition called

> peripheral neuropathy. I am continuing CRON at approximately

1500

> calories a day, hoping it will eventually bring about a reversal of

> the neuropathy.

Wallace, good to see your response.

I haven't read the book on CRON as obtaining books can be

difficult - I'm in the Canary Islands. The diet I'm presently trying is

a modification of the Paleolithic diet. I've had various books such

as " Life Without Bread " and " Eat Yourself Slim' by Michel

Montignac which are the low carb diet books but have read that

it's best to go at any of these diets gradually.

Although I havn't been diagnozed with peripheral neuropathy I

believe I may have it. Diagnosis over here is hard to come by.

> I am running 10-12 miles a week and I am self-employed,

working

> full-time as a business consultant; I am in relatively good

health

> except for the neuropathy and mild obesity over the past 10

years.

My thyroid tests came back indicating I'm hypothyroid so for the

last month have been taking synthroid - a small amount. Apart

from that I'm in pretty good shape though I dont do marathons ;-(

I

> have no other serious maladies, take no prescriptives, have no

> disabilities or handicaps, although eyesight and hearing are

showing

> aging.

I take an anti-cholesterol med but hope that in a while I'll be able

to discontinue it. My ratio (Total to HDL) is 3.0

> I plan to run the marathon again in 2005.

> Most people look at me in disbelief when I tell them my true

age. I

> appear to be about 10 years younger.

> I am a modified vegetarian, eating no dairy, only very little

> salmon, sardines, and occasionally, some chicken breast.

>

Yes this sounds a lot like my eating habits right now although I

include some liver and a small amount of dairy such as milk in

my coffee. Root vegetables are not popular here so I have to do

some searching to find them. I miss the organic foods that I

could get in California but plan on getting back there within a few

months

If there are any websites that give an outline of the CRON diet I'd

like to know.

Thanks again for your response,

Canary Peg

> Wallace Dickson

> Washington, DC

> wdickson@w...

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Peg Diamond [mailto:enmuffins@y...]

> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 1:12 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] Over 70's

>

> I'm a newbie here and am wondering how many 'over 70's' are

on his

> list. It would be interesting to know how CRON is working for

you

> :-)

>

> Canary Peg

>

>

>

>

>

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Our website gives an outline of the CRON diet!!!

Please read all our files and links. If you don't have access to a public

library, you can obtain Walford's book BEYOND THE 120 YEAR DIET at

Amazon.com, at the www.walford.com website or at any other bookseller's site

as well as any bookstore. It's an inexpensive book.

To access the files or links : just go to our home page:

/

At the left, click on " files " or " links " . Then click on the file or link

you want to read. Thats all there is to it. The files/links are jam packed

with useful information.

While I'm at it: To search the archives, go to the above home page and put

the word or words you are searching for in the search box and click on

" search archive " . Click on " next " at the bottom to continue searching back

into the archives until you've found what you're looking for.

I ask all newbies to please educate yourselves on the CRON diet.

on 5/24/2004 10:57 AM, Peg Diamond at enmuffins@... wrote:

>

>> Peg,

> Wallace, good to see your response.

> If there are any websites that give an outline of the CRON diet I'd

> like to know.

>

> Thanks again for your response,

> Canary Peg

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Peg,

What took you to the Canaries? And why are you coming back?

Wally

Wallace Dickson

wdickson@...

(202) 265-0591

-----Original Message-----

From: Peg Diamond [mailto:enmuffins@...]

Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 10:57 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Over 70's

> Peg,

> I, for one, started CRON last September 2003 at age 72.

> I have lost 25 pounds over these 8 months and I believe I have

> arrested the continued advancement of a progressive

condition called

> peripheral neuropathy. I am continuing CRON at approximately

1500

> calories a day, hoping it will eventually bring about a reversal

of

> the neuropathy.

Wallace, good to see your response.

I haven't read the book on CRON as obtaining books can be difficult

- I'm in the Canary Islands. The diet I'm presently trying is a

modification of the Paleolithic diet. I've had various books such

as " Life Without Bread " and " Eat Yourself Slim' by Michel Montignac

which are the low carb diet books but have read that it's best to go

at any of these diets gradually.

Although I havn't been diagnozed with peripheral neuropathy I

believe I may have it. Diagnosis over here is hard to come by.

> I am running 10-12 miles a week and I am self-employed,

working

> full-time as a business consultant; I am in relatively good

health

> except for the neuropathy and mild obesity over the past 10

years.

My thyroid tests came back indicating I'm hypothyroid so for the

last month have been taking synthroid - a small amount. Apart

from that I'm in pretty good shape though I dont do marathons ;-(

I

> have no other serious maladies, take no prescriptives, have no

> disabilities or handicaps, although eyesight and hearing are

showing

> aging.

I take an anti-cholesterol med but hope that in a while I'll be able

to discontinue it. My ratio (Total to HDL) is 3.0

> I plan to run the marathon again in 2005.

> Most people look at me in disbelief when I tell them my true

age. I

> appear to be about 10 years younger.

> I am a modified vegetarian, eating no dairy, only very little

> salmon, sardines, and occasionally, some chicken breast.

>

Yes this sounds a lot like my eating habits right now although I

include some liver and a small amount of dairy such as milk in

my coffee. Root vegetables are not popular here so I have to do

some searching to find them. I miss the organic foods that I

could get in California but plan on getting back there within a few

months

If there are any websites that give an outline of the CRON diet I'd

like to know.

Thanks again for your response,

Canary Peg

> Wallace Dickson

> Washington, DC

> wdickson@w...

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Peg Diamond [mailto:enmuffins@y...]

> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 1:12 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] Over 70's

>

> I'm a newbie here and am wondering how many 'over 70's' are

on his

> list. It would be interesting to know how CRON is working for

you

> :-)

>

> Canary Peg

>

>

>

>

>

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> Peg,

> What took you to the Canaries? And why are you coming back?

> Wally

Well the Canaries have a lot going for them if you're into

retirement. My medical care and any meds are free - I have UK

citizenship as well as US making this possible, as the UK is part

of the EU and the Canaries being part of Spain are also the EU.

The basic reason I'm here is that I've always had a 'wander lust'

- I'm known as 'gypsy momma' to my kids. When my husband

died in '98 I returned to the UK to live among relatives but after

the first winter there decided the going was too tough -

weather-wise. My first move from there was to North Cyprus

where I had visited a number of times. I preferred the north -

Turkish - to the south - Greek. I lived right next to the

Mediterranian for six months and really found the place very

congenial - even tho I didn't speak Turkish - but had to return to

the UK for a minor health problem - broke my ankle and found

the medical care in north Cyprus was almost non-existent. It

wasn't long before I was off again and this time to La Palma in

the Canaries. I lived there for a year and a half and then a move

to this island of Tenerife. As I said above the medical care is

fairly good - I get a complete blood work-up every six months and

hospital care is good - though I haven't used that yet.

Some things are hard to get here and Spain has a pretty

miserable record on GM foods - it's the only country in Europe

that uses GM (Monsanto) seeds. I'm aware that many toxic

substances are still used here - quite possibly DDT - but these

islanders are a law unto themselves even though they're

supposed to be part of Spain and EU law.

I like the ambiance here. If any of you saw footage of the wedding

of Prince Philipe last Saturday you'll know what I mean. That

wedding outshone the Prince and wedding IMO.

It showed royalty with much more humanity than one normally

sees. I would say that 'that's the reason I'm here - the getting

away from pseudo sophistication which I find is a big part of the

US/UK scene and people behaving naturally even though royalty.

I'd like to be in a simpler lifestyle and am doing this to a certain

extent - still have my internet connection tho as this helps me

keep in touch with my sons - 3 of them - and grandchildren - 11

of em. I make trips back to the UK and occasionally to the US -

have grandkids in Columbia MD and other fam members in Colo

and Calif.

I said I'd probably be returning to the US in a few months but I'm

not too sure of this. My children figure it's time I got back there but

I dont want to be a part of that lifestyle. One gets quite a different

viewpoint the longer one is 'out of country' IMO

Well that's enough for a starter. BTW very few Yanks here as the

$ is doing very poorly. When I first came here i got a Euro for 85

cents but now I pay $1.20 for each Euro so it's about a 30% hike.

Canary Peg

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