Supplements

[Guest guest]

Absolutely agree with Dr . Different people have different constitution, different sympathetic/parasympathetic balance, different oxidation rate, different pH, different endocrine balance etc. etc., all the homeostatic control mechanisms - so different foods and different supplements will have different effects depending on biochemical individuality. One must treat the person not the disease. Azizah

[Guest guest]

hey ! probably hulda clark is ok? gyorgyi

> Hello all,

>

> Thank you very much for the wonderful response I have received to

my request for feedback regarding the QXCI and BICOM equipment. I

have since had a number of useful conversations with people who

contacted me directly.

>

> It is a credit to you all that you are so willing to share your

knowledge so openly. I hope in the future to be able to reciprocate.

>

> I have a further question regarding supplements which I hope is not

inappropriate for this group:

>

> Do any of you offer / recommend Herbal Life supplements to your

clients? The reason I ask is that I have heard from a Clinical

Kinesiologist that they have come across a few people who are

allergic to some of them. I am not sure if this would be the case

with any manufacturer's supplements or if it is because they are of

poor quality. They are supposedly all made from completely natural

products.

>

> Once again any comments would be welcome.

>

> Thanking you in advance,

>

> Mike.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi kathy

hence the reason why we need to look more at diet. It is very difficult to recommend products when you cannot test them against the client.

Great feedback from you.

Nana

Re: Supplements

hey ! probably hulda clark is ok? gyorgyi> Hello all,> > Thank you very much for the wonderful response I have received to my request for feedback regarding the QXCI and BICOM equipment. I have since had a number of useful conversations with people who contacted me directly.> > It is a credit to you all that you are so willing to share your knowledge so openly. I hope in the future to be able to reciprocate.> > I have a further question regarding supplements which I hope is not inappropriate for this group:> > Do any of you offer / recommend Herbal Life supplements to your clients? The reason I ask is that I have heard from a Clinical Kinesiologist that they have come across a few people who are allergic to some of them. I am not sure if this would be the case with any manufacturer's supplements or if it is because they are of poor quality. They are supposedly all made from completely natural products.> > Once again any comments would be welcome.> > Thanking you in advance,> > Mike. > >

[Guest guest]

.... but we can!

the meridian test for supplements is great!

marlene

Re: Supplements

hey ! probably hulda clark is ok? gyorgyi> Hello all,> > Thank you very much for the wonderful response I have received to my request for feedback regarding the QXCI and BICOM equipment. I have since had a number of useful conversations with people who contacted me directly.> > It is a credit to you all that you are so willing to share your knowledge so openly. I hope in the future to be able to reciprocate.> > I have a further question regarding supplements which I hope is not inappropriate for this group:> > Do any of you offer / recommend Herbal Life supplements to your clients? The reason I ask is that I have heard from a Clinical Kinesiologist that they have come across a few people who are allergic to some of them. I am not sure if this would be the case with any manufacturer's supplements or if it is because they are of poor quality. They are supposedly all made from completely natural products.> > Once again any comments would be welcome.> > Thanking you in advance,> > Mike. > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply. Can you tell me if you checked with a physician before

taking DMAE?

Hugs,

Crystal

I took it for a little while and although it helped with stamina it caused me to

shake sometimes from feeling nervous and anxiety.

[Guest guest]

If you have a good local HFS you should be able to trust any brands they carry.

I think I remember it is absorbed best with a fat. If you are not sure of the

brands you can ask me.

walou@... wrote:

I take Co-Q10 and it is hard to know what

brand is trustworthy and easily absorbed.

I heard there is a new one that desolves on the tongue. The word 'melt'

is in the name. Is anyone familiar with this or could you recommend a

good brand? Thanks in advance. Wanda

[Guest guest]

Swansons Vitamins has softgels " Q-Gel " that is hydrosoluble and " the

most powerful CoQ10 available " . It is more efficiently absorbed than

the fat soluble from my understanding. I have used this kind for

several years.

Lorrie

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>>From: kathymatthews

If you have a good local HFS you should be able to trust any brands they

carry. I think I remember it is absorbed best with a fat. If you are not

sure of the brands you can ask me.

>>walou@... wrote:

I take Co-Q10 and it is hard to know what brand is trustworthy and

easily absorbed. I heard there is a new one that desolves on the tongue.

The word 'melt' is in the name. Is anyone familiar with this or could

you recommend a good brand? Thanks in advance.     Wanda

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lorrie---I have also used Swansons brand of Q-10 -- but never

sure if I'm absorbing the amount listed, regardless of what their

literature states.

Also, I have read that they need to be taken WITH fat.

Decisions--decisions! LOL Wanda

[Guest guest]

What gets me is the admonition, " if you eat a balanced diet, you'll get all you

need " . Prey tell, what's a " balanced diet " ??

IMO there is nothing wrong with giving your system a pause from vitamins for a

spell.. But after a few days I can tell I'm starting to sag and better get back

taking mine.

[Guest guest]

There are good supplements and bad supplements. You don't buy pharmaceutical

brands and most really cheap brands.

You try to discover what your imbalances are and what you need more of.

And just like eating, you do what works.

Simple rule:

If a supplement makes you feel better it is good for you no matter what any

article says.

If it makes you feel worse or does nothing at all, forget it, no matter what any

article says.

Place to start is with some all purpose basics or areas of need. Start with

just a couple things at a time so you can monitor how you respond. Go from

there.

My all purpose suggestions:

Antioxidant -- VitC, grapeseed extract

Trace minerals -- liquid colloidal or ionic

Cal/Mg -- especially for women BUT be careful about forms and balance

B complex -- brewers yeast for whole food form

Oils -- flax, salmon, codliver(A & D)

Tamara Tornado <tamaratornado@...> wrote:

This brings up something I have been wanting to write about, that from

what i've read there is a debate about whether supplements are really

good for you.

The anti-supplement people point to studies like this and say that

supplements can cause illness. That nature knows how to balance our

nutrition in our food, while taking supplements, we can imbalance very

easily. That the nutrition in supplements is artifical and/or

processed. That our digestive system is not designed to absorb

nutrients through pills.

The pro-supplement people say that our soil is depleted, and that we

can't rely on our food to give us enough nutrients. Not even organic

food, as our environment is messed up. And that supplements are

effective.

I am not summarizing it adequately, just off the top of my head...

I also think, well, our soil is depleted, why don't we do something to

heal the soil... then I immediately realize that our big-business

controlled government is NEVER going to do anything to heal the soil.

Organic farmers do the best they can, but there's a lot they have no

control over.

So the only thing I have control over is what I eat and whether or not

I take supplements.

I have concluded that I am damned if I do, dammed if I don't... That

both sides are right, that I'm not getting enough nutrition from my

food, that the supplements are both helping and harming me.

I also have realized that I take supplements out of fear. That I am

afraid of getting sick, and I take the supplement as a guard against

it. But there's no joy in swallowing a pill. I think that's a terrbile

reason to take something. But alot of medicine is like that, huh, that

medicine is unpleasant?

A diet can be motivated by fear, but there's also joy in it. As I LOVE

good food. With the type O diet, I get a big kick pretending that I

eat like a cave woman ;-)

I've stopped taking most of my supplements temporarily (?) as I

struggle with these questions.

I wonder what you all think. I know that a couple of you sell

supplements, and I don't mean to put you or anyone else down, I'm just

bringing up issues.

- Tamara

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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:51:25 -0700

From: " Coryn " <SnipSnip@...>

Subject: Interesting Article FYI

Hi everyone. I know I have been out of the loop for a while but I

thought I would pass the below article along. It is from Forbes.com.

BTW: The " Get To Know Your Fellow O's " website is still up and running.

I had a busy summer so no new recipes got posted. But I have saved ALL

the post and will glean some recipes off of those and post them before

the holidays. To anyone new, you can email me a photo of yourself along

with a little blurb about yourself and I can post it to the website.

The site is at http://home.comcast.net/~snipsnip/O.htm so go and see

what

some of your fellow O's look like!!

Coryn in Tacoma

Health

Vitamin Supplements May Boost Cancer Risk

By Ed Edelson

HealthDay Reporter By Ed Edelson HealthDay Reporter,

THURSDAY, Sept. 30 (HealthDayNews) -- People who take vitamin and

antioxidant supplements in the hope they're reducing their risk of

gastrointestinal cancer are more likely to die of the disease than

those who

don't take the supplements, a new study finds.

The research, which reviewed the results of 14 major trials with more

than 170,000 participants, found a small but statistically significant

increase in gastrointestinal cancer deaths associated with supplements

containing beta carotene and vitamins A, C and E.

Four of the trials showed a possible reduction of risk associated with

selenium supplements, the report said.

In half the trials, there was a 6 percent increased risk of death from

cancers of the esophagus, stomach, pancreas, liver, colon and rectum in

persons who took supplements, compared to those who took a placebo, the

researchers found.

But certain combinations of supplements seemed to be more dangerous,

the researchers said.

A 30 percent higher risk was found for combination supplements

containing beta carotene and vitamin A, and a 10 percent risk for

supplements

combining beta carotene and vitamin E.

" The indication that mortality in supplement-taking patients was higher

compared to placebo has to be explored extensively in all randomized

trials, " said study author Dr. Goran Bjelakovic, a professor of

internal

medicine at the University of Nis in Serbia and Montenegro.

" The potential protective effect of selenium should be studied in

adequate clinical trials, " he added.

The study appears in the Oct. 2 issue of The Lancet.

It's not clear why antioxidant supplements might have a harmful effect,

Bjelakovic said. One possible explanation is that they might interfere

with apoptosis, the process in which the body destroys cells that turn

abnormal.

" Someone who takes supplements can suppress apoptosis and thus can

influence the growth of different tumors, " Bjelakovic said. " But this

is

only a hypothesis. "

Neither the American Cancer Society nor the National Cancer Institute

(NCI) recommend vitamin supplements for cancer prevention. A U.S. task

force recently reported there is " insufficient evidence " that

supplements have any preventive effect. The cancer society recommends

getting

appropriate amounts of vitamins and minerals by eating a balanced diet.

The NCI is conducting a large-scale trial of selenium and vitamin A for

prevention of prostate cancer. The trial was started because two

earlier studies suggested a possible protective effect.

In an accompanying editorial in the journal, Drs. Forman of Leeds

University in England and Altman of Cancer Research United

Kingdom, said, " The prospect that vitamin pills might not only do no

good

but also kill their consumers is a scary proposition given the vast

quantities used in certain communities. "

If the findings are correct, " 9,000 in every million users of such

supplements will die prematurely as a result, " the editorial said. But

it

added the review " is a work in progress and does not offer convincing

proof of hazard. "

s, a senior epidemiologist at the American Cancer Society,

said, " There are other things [that] do work in preventing

gastrointestinal cancer. One way to prevent colon cancer is to get

screened for it.

Quitting smoking helps prevent colon cancer as well as lung cancer, and

maintaining proper weight can reduce the risk of gastrointestinal

cancer. "

More information

The National Cancer Institute has a review of antioxidant supplements

and cancer prevention.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

can you explain more what you mean by be careful about the cal/ mag?

Thanks so much.

- T

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 07:28:27 -0700 (PDT)

From: kathy matthews <kathymatthews@...>

Subject: Re: supplements

There are good supplements and bad supplements. You don't buy

pharmaceutical brands and most really cheap brands.

You try to discover what your imbalances are and what you need more of.

And just like eating, you do what works.

Simple rule:

If a supplement makes you feel better it is good for you no matter what

any article says.

If it makes you feel worse or does nothing at all, forget it, no matter

what any article says.

Place to start is with some all purpose basics or areas of need. Start

with just a couple things at a time so you can monitor how you respond.

Go from there.

My all purpose suggestions:

Antioxidant -- Vitamin C, grapeseed extract

Trace minerals -- liquid colloidal or ionic

Cal/Mg -- especially for women BUT be careful about forms and balance

B complex -- brewers yeast for whole food form

Oils -- flax, salmon, codliver(A & D)

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tamara

Cal & Mg come in different forms that work in different ways. Also, some people

need more calcium and some people need more magnesium.

For just a general (cheap) calcium, I suggest Calcium Citrate with Mg & Vit D

and possibly Boron for older women.

Better forms, since it is mostly wanted for your bones, would be special bone

formulas that should probably include MCHA - microcrystalline hydroxyapatite.

One of the most common forms is calcium carbonate, cheap and bad. I use only

occasionaly if you REALLY have too much acid. We have discussed the pH - acid

reflux thing before.

The cheap common form of magnesium is oxide. Best to get at least a combination

that might include citrate and/or aspartate.

Then there is the Chelated form of each which is also better than the cheap

forms.

So -- there are many combinations from many companies (since calcium is

popularly recommended) and needs to be chosen for specific situations to get

correct result.

Does that help?

Kathy

Tamara Tornado <tamaratornado@...> wrote:

Hi Kathy,

can you explain more what you mean by be careful about the cal/ mag?

Thanks so much.

- T

--- wrote:

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 07:28:27 -0700 (PDT)

From: kathy matthews <kathymatthews@...>

Subject: Re: supplements

There are good supplements and bad supplements. You don't buy

pharmaceutical brands and most really cheap brands.

You try to discover what your imbalances are and what you need more of.

And just like eating, you do what works.

Simple rule:

If a supplement makes you feel better it is good for you no matter what

any article says.

If it makes you feel worse or does nothing at all, forget it, no matter

what any article says.

Place to start is with some all purpose basics or areas of need. Start

with just a couple things at a time so you can monitor how you respond.

Go from there.

My all purpose suggestions:

Antioxidant -- Vitamin C, grapeseed extract

Trace minerals -- liquid colloidal or ionic

Cal/Mg -- especially for women BUT be careful about forms and balance

B complex -- brewers yeast for whole food form

Oils -- flax, salmon, codliver(A & D)

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[Guest guest]

Don't forget the MOST important factors: binders and/or fillers.

I don't care what form you take if you are intolerant to the additive

the product will not absorb properly.

ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com

Re: Re: supplements

[Guest guest]

It's always a good idea to let your physician know of all suppliments that

you are taking, especially in preparing for surgery. Some suppliments may be

an interaction with other medications that you are on or the physician is

planning on putting you on. Herbal suppliments have the biggest risk of

interaction, but even the vitamin/mineral can have a risk. Even some

flavour/herbal teas may create some problems. I always check when I pick up

new prescriptions of what I should avoid while taking it.

It's always better to prevent a possible problem than to have to deal with

it after the fact. At least, that's the way I think.

Llweyn

Supplements

Hi All,

Before I say another word, as with all stuff on this site, this is

not to be constured as medical advise!!!

I went to my pre-admission screening yesterday and had a chance to

speak with the nurse practitioner regarding the supplements I was

planning to take...and also was able to leave the info for Dr R. and

both told it was fine to go ahead. They both stressed that the

stuff they DO NOT want you on is the " herbal supplement " stuff, no

gingko balboa, st johns wart etc.

So, I plan to do the Arginaid 2 x daily for the next three days and

then swith to the Impact-Recover for the two days prior to surgery

as I back into the " easy diet " they want you on, since that has

caloric and vitamins attributes in it as well.

Cam

Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment

Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any

advertised products.

[Guest guest]

> Interestingly, I have heard that the WHO has a program they are hoping

> to push thru (heard it was going to come down the pike in 2007) whereby

> they are going to ban OTC sales of nutritional supplements worldwide.

Apparently there has been groups trying to ban supplements for decades,

but they have not been very successful -- at least where I live.

On one list I subscribe to, someone was trying to convince us all

that all supplements would dissappear off the shelves in August 2005.

Well, August 2005 came and went, and nothing happened...

If one is very concerned about supplements going away, then I suppose

one should focus on trying out various foods for healing. It

seems much less likely that there will be a ban on these. For healing

purposes, one should probably focus on organic foods, and also in

many cases eating things raw is more helpful (although in some cases

cooking, steaming, or fermenting may produce better results)

Marc

[Guest guest]

I prefer those from food sources. I take products from Metagenics, Biotics

Research, CP Medical, Vitamin Research Products, Thorne Research, Allergy

Research and Kroeger Herbs. I also take homeopathy products from A Vogel

and Heel.

Hope that helps!

Supplements

> Steph or anyone with knowledge...what is your take on supplements?

> Whole food or synthetic?...another big controversy. Do the

> synthetic do any good as compared to whole food, or do they do more

> harm? Can you recommend brands that are trusted and you are

> familiar with?

> Thanks,

> Kathy

>

>

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>> Thanks, ., I've added 100mg x 2 of B2 and 500mg x 2 of B3

> daily, per Dr. Flechas (and your site). The L-5-HTP is supposed to

> help the low serotonin, plus I take 2 tsp. of cod liver oil every

> day, which is 800 IUs. The doctor recommended 4000 IUs of D3; what

> do you think?

>>

>> Virginia

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>> >>The thing that stands out to me is your low serotonin levels.

> Those can be

>> tied to low Vit D levels. I would make work of getting that

> checked. You

>> may want to add the B2/B3 protocol too that will help your ATP

> (see my

>> website www.naturalthyroidc hoices.com for more info on thyroid

> nutrients).

>> Otherwise your protocol looks good.

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[Guest guest]

i agree that food-based is preferable - more natural, better assimilated by the body.i have come to really trust " New Chapter. " they are a small company in vermont. i feel that the people and their products have great integrity.

for vit d3 and cal/mag, i like " Rainbow Light Just Once Food-Based Calcium. " has d3/cal/mag, also horsetail and nettles - herbs that are good for hair and skin.mari : )

On Jan 22, 2008 7:04 PM, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

I prefer those from food sources. I take products from Metagenics, Biotics

Research, CP Medical, Vitamin Research Products, Thorne Research, Allergy

Research and Kroeger Herbs. I also take homeopathy products from A Vogel

and Heel.

Hope that helps!

Supplements

> Steph or anyone with knowledge...what is your take on supplements?

> Whole food or synthetic?...another big controversy. Do the

> synthetic do any good as compared to whole food, or do they do more

> harm? Can you recommend brands that are trusted and you are

> familiar with?

> Thanks,

> Kathy

>

>

>>

>> Thanks, ., I've added 100mg x 2 of B2 and 500mg x 2 of B3

> daily, per Dr. Flechas (and your site). The L-5-HTP is supposed to

> help the low serotonin, plus I take 2 tsp. of cod liver oil every

> day, which is 800 IUs. The doctor recommended 4000 IUs of D3; what

> do you think?

>>

>> Virginia

>>

>> >>The thing that stands out to me is your low serotonin levels.

> Those can be

>> tied to low Vit D levels. I would make work of getting that

> checked. You

>> may want to add the B2/B3 protocol too that will help your ATP

> (see my

>> website www.naturalthyroidc hoices.com for more info on thyroid

> nutrients).

>> Otherwise your protocol looks good.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you and Mari, for your input.

I did just start taking the New Chapter multi last week and am now looking for a good C and B complex.

Kathy

> > >>> > >> Thanks, ., I've added 100mg x 2 of B2 and 500mg x 2 of B3> > > daily, per Dr. Flechas (and your site). The L-5-HTP is supposed to> > > help the low serotonin, plus I take 2 tsp. of cod liver oil every> > > day, which is 800 IUs. The doctor recommended 4000 IUs of D3; what> > > do you think?> > >>> > >> Virginia> > >>> > >> >>The thing that stands out to me is your low serotonin levels.> > > Those can be> > >> tied to low Vit D levels. I would make work of getting that> > > checked. You> > >> may want to add the B2/B3 protocol too that will help your ATP> > > (see my> > >> website www.naturalthyroidc hoices.com for more info on thyroid> > > nutrients).> > >> Otherwise your protocol looks good.> > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi, aura - We regularly have periods of breaks when the body rests and

there is no loss. This is normal and expected, since weight loss is

hard work for he body. We never lose at a steady rate.

But I'm really glad you are losing again !

I'm afraid supplements haver nothing to do with weight loss. Most

supplements are not proven to do much at all, but some at least do no

harm. The supplement industry in the US is a multi-million $ industry

becuase so many people are gullible, and it is largely UNregulated.

the Blueberry juice is full of anti-oxidants, and that's fine - but

this has nothing to do with weight loss. the omega 3's are great for

heart health, but also have no effect on weight loss (unless you drink

bottles of oil and ADD all those calories..)

Vitamins do not stimulate metabolism, or affect processing of fats at

all. You'll find lots of myths and incorrect info on the Net - I

believe only what is well-proven in scientific studies, for instance

what you wull find on a Google Scholar search. thr results are no more

than subjective testimonials .

Your weight loss is great, though - way to go!

Sandy r

>

> I started taking some new supplements a few weeks ago and it really

> helped with my weight loss. I had been experiencing a plateau that I

> couldn't break. I started taking a special Alaskan blueberry juice

and

> I felt more energetic, but then I started taking the same company's

> Alaskan Salmon oil pills and I started dropping pounds again. I give

> the products credit because I didn't change anything with my eating

or

> workout routine. I read up on the contents and certain vitamins help

> process the fat and carbs and also stimulate metabolism (which I

think

> was my problem) Any way, I just wanted to share because I'm excited

to

> now have a total weight loss of 64 pounds since 10/23/07! Yippy!

>

[Guest guest]

I don’t take much at all –

only Glucosamine and Fish Oil.

From: Beverley Paine

[mailto:contact@...]

Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 9:49 AM

samters

Subject: supplements

Someone mentioned supplements. What supplements do we all

take?

I'm taking every day:

omega 3 capsules (2 daily)

mega B

green tea (2 tabs)

zinc and magnesium

vitamin D

glucosomine with chondroiton

I don't know if they help manage the samters symptoms, but

they help to stabilise my mood and keep the osteoarthritis pain at bay.

cheers

Beverley

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[Guest guest]

I take a daily USANA Essential package that contains many vitamins.

Tom

I don’t take much at all – only Glucosamine and Fish Oil.

From: Beverley Paine [mailto:contactbeverleypaine] Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 9:49 AMsamters Subject: supplements

Someone mentioned supplements. What supplements do we all take?

I'm taking every day:

omega 3 capsules (2 daily)

mega B

green tea (2 tabs)

zinc and magnesium

vitamin D

glucosomine with chondroiton

I don't know if they help manage the samters symptoms, but they help to stabilise my mood and keep the osteoarthritis pain at bay.

cheers

Beverley

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It was me that started this. Before I answer, I need to give a disclaimer that I sell the supplements I take. I've hesitated to mention them before now because a) I was judging their effect and I'm not here to advertise my stuff, I'm here for support like everyone else. That said, these really help me, and I'll go into detail below.I have taken the following as directed since the beginning of October. Prior to then, I had gone for months with no nasal airflow, my polyps were pushing out on the sides of my nose, and I had no sense of smell.http://rthompson10.qhealthzone.com/products/product.aspx?itemno=101165http://rthompson10.qhealthzone.com/products/product.aspx?itemno=A5880After

about a month my sense of smell returned, and my polyps reduced quite a lot, such that most days I have partial airflow - enough that I can breathe comfortably through my nose. I would compare the results to the course of Keflex my doc gave me the previous year. A couple weeks ago I started taking the following:http://rthompson10.qhealthzone.com/products/product.aspx?itemno=A8086There's a bit of a story to this one. One day, quite out of the blue, I was struck with the thought that there might be an herbal remedy for asthma. My googling turned up that a plant called Boswellia was used to treat asthma:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boswelliahttp://ezinearticles.com/?Is-Boswellia-A-Natural-Asthma-Remedy? & id=508970http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9810030So I searched to see if it was one that I sold, and found it in the supplement intended for arthritis relief. I've been taking it as directed, and

additionally as needed when I start to feel tightness in my chest, but before a full blown attack. The tightness is relieved within 20 minutes of my taking, much the same as acetaminophen relieves my headache, and lasts about 6 hours.You all are better researchers than I, but I wanted to share my experience. This post is getting lengthy, so please forgive me for telling one more related story. Since mid April I've been fighting a sinus infection. It was much as I described above, and taking the perfect pack twice per day was no longer clearing me up. After a couple weeks I added Echinacea and a product called Clear Guard (cinnamon extract and spanish needle powder) used to fight standard, run of the mill stuffiness due to hay fever or common cold. Neither of those had any effect, except I would burp up a minty taste for an hour or so. Finally I gave up on those and tried taking a third dose of the perfect pack each day. Today is

day four of that. This morning I had a little airflow through one nostril, so I tried irrigating with my SinuCleanse neti pot. That finally broke things up. As I sit here I'm breathing through my nose quite comfortably, as I did while I was walking earlier, which I did extra, because I was happy to be breathing.Oh, and if you're still reading you must be interested, so I had better admit that I haven't discussed any of the above with my doc, yet.I hope this helps,Bob supplementsSomeone mentioned supplements. What supplements do we all take? I'm taking every day: omega 3 capsules (2 daily)mega Bgreen tea (2 tabs)zinc and magnesiumvitamin Dglucosomine with chondroiton I don't know if they help manage the samters symptoms, but they help to stabilise my mood and keep the osteoarthritis pain at bay. cheersBeverley

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1/2-1 tsp Celtic salt and 2,000-3,000 mgs of Vit C.

Supplements

> I'm going to go back on Iodoral this weekend and would like to know

> which supplements you recommend to go with it. Last time I tried 25mg

> with no supplements and felt horrible for weeks. This time I'm going

> to start at 50 and want to be prepared. Thanks in advance for your

> advice and wisdom.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Wannette,

Are you describing one of the adrenal insufficiency symptoms D n V?

and are you being treated for it?

best wishes

Bob

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> Hi,

> Has anyone had experience of taking vitamin injections? I know its

hard

[Guest guest]

Hi Wannette,

Yes I have had a Vitamin intravenious injection. It was called the

" Myers Cocktail " . It contained the following:

Magnesium chloride hexahydrate 20% 2-5 mL Magnesium

Calcium gluconate 10% 1-3 mL Calcium

Hydroxocobalamin 1,000 mcg/mL 1 mL Vitamin B12

Pyridoxine hydrochloride 100 mg/mL 1 mL Vitamin B6

Dexpanthenol 250 mg/mL 1 mL Vitamin B5

B complex 100 1 mL Vitamin B complex

Vitamin C 222 mg/mL 4-20 mL Vitamin C

It was administered by my GP and took about 15-20 minutes.

I am very sensitive to needles and was under quite a lot of pain

during the procedure so didn't bother doing it again. However, don't

let that put you off. I think it was just me.