Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi , Thanks for that. I am not great with needles but I can manage, however 15-20 minutes that sounds rough. So why was your GP giving you this cocktail? His idea or yours? Did he have the supplies there or were these ordered in? and most importantly, did you get any benefit even out of one shot? I find it really interesting that he gave you this, as I thought the NHS did not feel supplementation was of any benefit, you should be able to get all you need from food. I had the interesting experience once when in the midst of a chronic D n V stage, that I dared asked for Dioralyte on scipt, and the GP said no, I should eat a banana! lol, Wannette From: <pauljennings1977@...>Subject: Re: supplementsthyroid treatment Date: Monday, 7 July, 2008, 9:50 AM Hi Wannette,Yes I have had a Vitamin intravenious injection. It was called the"Myers Cocktail". It contained the following:Magnesium chloride hexahydrate 20% 2-5 mL MagnesiumCalcium gluconate 10% 1-3 mL CalciumHydroxocobalamin 1,000 mcg/mL 1 mL Vitamin B12Pyridoxine hydrochloride 100 mg/mL 1 mL Vitamin B6Dexpanthenol 250 mg/mL 1 mL Vitamin B5B complex 100 1 mL Vitamin B complexVitamin C 222 mg/mL 4-20 mL Vitamin CIt was administered by my GP and took about 15-20 minutes.I am very sensitive to needles and was under quite a lot of painduring the procedure so didn't bother doing it again. However, don'tlet that put you off. I think it was just me. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hi all I, too, would be dead if it were not for taking supplements for almost 30 years. I think back how people used to say, " But you get all the nutrients you need from a healthy diet " . My answer was, " Where do we find that healthy diet? " Another thing about the " healthy diet " is that some of have to work at a full time job and take care of a home and children. Time does not allow for doing all the right things. I wish it had been so. I think now, that supplements may have helped those of us who took them more than we know. I am not a diabetic but I was a heavy smoker for over 30 years. Other smokers were dropping dead around me but I am still here. I quit 9 years ago but quitting at that late stage does not keep you from getting cancer, etc. It is keeping your body in an alkaline state that can prevent cancer and other diseases. We can discuss that in another thread, if desired. Now as I look back, I believe that many of the supplements I took helped to alkalize my body. Raw fruits and vegetables do this, too, of course, and let us not forget Coconut Oil which gets rid of toxins and fungus. While I definitely agree that getting your nutrients from raw fruit and vegetables is the best way, it is not always possible. I was so poor at one stage of my life, I ate mostly macaroni every day. I found I could eat for 20¢ a day. But I knew it was not enough so I supplemented with a cheap multi vitamin/ mineral. This went on for a number of years. Thank God, that time is now past and I hardly ever eat pasta. We are warned by those in-the-know and those not in- the-know not to take too much Vitamin C, for example. I have been taking 3000 mg of Vitamin C every single day for about 30 years. If I don't take it, I get sick and miserable. It was in the 80's or so that I began getting an unusual number of headaches and I couldn't figure out why. Well thank God for those sinus headache commercials, I began to wonder if that was what my problem was but also thinking that I didn't feel stuffed up or anything. I thought I would try taking some Vitamin C instead of a pain killer. I took about 2000 mgs all at once and in 20 minutes my headache was gone. I experimented and found eventually that my ideal dosage needed to be 3000 mg per day and that for best results, I needed to take it all at once. I knew that it would be good to take another dose in the day but it was more than I could afford and my dosage seemed to be working. I rarely miss a day and when I do, I begin having sinus problems. Otherwise, I don't even know I have sinuses. And I never have a cold. I believe it is because my sinuses are being kept clear with the Vitamin C. I have a theory about why we get colds. If anyone wants to hear that, I will put it in another email. There's a lot more could be said for supplements but this email is long enough. Just one last comment.... I am convinced that the adverse news we are hearing lately about supplements being bad for us is a ploy of the drug companies. They don't want us to be taking them because they know they work ..thus hurting their bottom line. They also want to bring in the CODEX guidelines and they are trying to get us mentally ready for that. No, the drug companies don't want us to die; they just want us to be sick as long as possible. Helen > Looks like isolated nutrients, synthetically made. Cheap? You get > what you pay for -- full of fillers. What color is it? Artificial > colors? Where do they get the ingredients for it? What is the > capsule made of, veggie or horses hooves? Is there coal tar in the > capsule? Or other preservatives? Is there sugar in it? > > Your body is not designed to digest isolated nutrients, but rather to > extract them from real food. Eat food. > > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Becca, I actually take 1500mg of powdered magnesium nightly (in capsules) for the purpose of combatting constipation! (Don't you love how we can discuss any topic on this forum?) Yes, you should take some calcium with magnesium as they both help the other work better cellularly. (That's as scientific as I get!) Zinc is also been known to help many with sinus issues when they occur. Does taking zinc help those of us who live with chronic sinus issues? I don't know and have never taken it faithfully. Jane From: Becca <rebeebit@...>Subject: Supplementssamters Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 4:21 PM From what I've read, it's good to take Magnesium with Calcium. I'm currently taking a supplement that has Ca, Mg, and Zinc (I think Zinc was mentioned as being helpful in controlling rhinitis), and the supplement also includes Vitamin D. I also read that taking stinging nettle helps reduce your histamine response, so for those of us with allergies, it might help too. I get a little sick of all the drugs I have to take, and the supplements are cheaper, so it would be great if they worked.Oh, watch out on your Mg intake--if you take the recommended dose all at once, it can cause some gastrointestinal distress. Also, some sources recommend dosing Mg according to your body weight, so the recommended 500 milligrams would be for a larger person. I forget the dosage--I'm probably going to stick with 250-375 mg per day.Becca & quot;Dogs have masters, while cats have staff. & quot;--unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 > > morning everyone; i am continuing to try to reintroduce my > supplements one by one but they do upset my stomach. if one had to choose the best > supplement to take what would it be ? your considered opinions will > be gratefully received ! regards jane Hi Jane, l can empathise with you on this problem. l take one complete A-Z tablet from Boots. lt doesn't have everything on your list of supplements but it does have 24 of the daily recommended nutrients in one tablet and most of them contain 100% of the daily requirements. rx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Hi Jane, vit C is recommended by this group and many doctors, selenium is highly recommended,co10 is good if you have high blood pressure,and Siberian ginseng is for adrenal hormonesupport and is very good.it is a matter of choice which one`s you take.we are all individualso may benefit from many of the same things. but after thyroid medicine I would put seleniumnext which have been proved to help those with auto-antibodies.regards angel.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 > > Hi Jane, > l can empathise with you on this problem. l take one complete A-Z > tablet from Boots. lt doesn't have everything on your list of > supplements but it does have 24 of the daily recommended nutrients > in one tablet and most of them contain 100% of the daily requirements. > rx > P.S. Powdered vitamin C maybe worth trying in a fruit drink or even soda pop drink. rx > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 I second this Angel - most definitely Selenium MUST be at the very top of the list. Luv - Sheila Hi Jane, vit C is recommended by this group and many doctors, selenium is highly recommended, co10 is good if you have high blood pressure,and Siberian ginseng is for adrenal hormone support and is very good.it is a matter of choice which one`s you take.we are all individual so may benefit from many of the same things. but after thyroid medicine I would put selenium next which have been proved to help those with auto-antibodies. regards angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Is anybody familiar with the following Internet Pharmacy for buying supplements etc. It seems an excellent source, but unfortunately, doesn't do higher doses of Q10 other than 30 mgs. They do have vitamin B 3 at the higher dose though and I would think this pharmacy a good place for many of us. says they are very quick, next day delivery and she didn't have to pay p & p on her last order. www.zipvit.com. 0800 0282875 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1758 - Release Date: 31/10/2008 08:22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 hi sheila; i have used zipvit for some time, they are very quick and reliable. also, for those of us with joint aches and pains , they do glucosamine & chondriton as a liquid mixture which is quite good. i use it and give it to the old lurcher as well. it is worth while getting their catelogue as the website isn't the best. regards jane > > Is anybody familiar with the following Internet Pharmacy for buying supplements etc. It seems an excellent source, but unfortunately, doesn't do higher doses of Q10 other than 30 mgs. They do have vitamin B 3 at the higher dose though and I would think this pharmacy a good place for many of us. says they are very quick, next day delivery and she didn't have to pay p & p on her last order. > > > > > www.zipvit.com. 0800 0282875 > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1758 - Release Date: 31/10/2008 08:22 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 ***> I have had a look at the nutritional supplements eg Vit C and milk thistle etc on the website - Are these supplements for both Hypo and Hyper? Hi , To the best of my knowledge, Vit C is a good supplement for most people - hypo or hyper.... Milk Thistle is a supplement to help cleanse the liver from toxins (often used after extensive medication). Whilst many therapists recommend to take Vit C supplementation indefinitely, Milk Thistle should not be used on a permanent basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hi , Why is this? I have been on it for years, and have not had any advice for years concerning supplements so had not heard this. How long do you think it is ok to take it for? I have probably been on it for well over 20 years - can't remember really. Val Milk Thistle should not be used on a permanent basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 *** Milk Thistle should not be used on a permanent basis.*** Why is this? Hi Val, Whilst moderate use of milk thistle is very safe, there is experimental evidence** that suggests that long term use of milk thistle will eventually suppress liver function. I was told this by the veterinarian Dr. Dodds, when I asked her advice on safe usage of milk thistle. One of my dogs had an autoimmune disease and had to be on a prednisolone and immunosuppressant drug combo for life (for 9 consecutive years, as it worked out). She advised to detox his liver with milk thistle in 4-6 monthly intervals, rather than to keep him on it indefinitely. Best wishes, ** Those were human experimental research studies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Thanks . Whilst moderate use of milk thistle is very safe, there isexperimental evidence** that suggests that long term use of milk thistlewill eventually suppress liver function. I was told this by theveterinarian Dr. Dodds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 The think you have to keep in mind is that there are things that disrupt the values. Mercury being one. Cutler calls it mineral transport issues. It escapes me which values will be high when you have mercury but I believe it is calcium, magnesium and potassium. You can read more about it here http://tinyurl.com/dld5s5 The long and the short of it is - because it is high on the hair test doesn't mean it is really high in the cells. Just like your hair can be low in Hg and you are really toxic if you are a binder. Supplements I have been taking the recommended supplements for a few months now and I finally got my hair mineral analysis test results back and it shows that I am in magnesium overload. And that my iodine levels are way too high too. Should I slow down on the magnesium and iodine? Mia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Oh okay, yes I think I heard had about that before, I did test positive for mercury too in my hair I got tested for toxic metals at the same time that they tested minerals. I posted my results online for Cutler and his group to see them and am waiting for them to respond to them, they are great at reading this sort of testing, so I will wait and see what they say about it. Thanks ! Mia From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:18 PM iodine Subject: Re: Supplements The think you have to keep in mind is that there are things that disrupt the values. Mercury being one. Cutler calls it mineral transport issues. It escapes me which values will be high when you have mercury but I believe it is calcium, magnesium and potassium. You can read more about it here http://tinyurl.com/dld5s5 The long and the short of it is - because it is high on the hair test doesn't mean it is really high in the cells. Just like your hair can be low in Hg and you are really toxic if you are a binder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 In a message dated 4/14/2009 7:09:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, miaharrod@... writes: And that my iodine levels are way too high too. Should I slow down on the magnesium and iodine? Mia...what are the labs reference ranges for mag and iodine? My guess is that your levels are fine but their ranges are low. Just a thought. BarbF Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 My doctor actually took me off all supplements. She said that there is a lot of stored nutrients in fat so they are not needed when fat is released. I have to say that I was a bit skeptical, but it was fine. My skin cleared up and hair and nails were fine. > > Can everyone who has completed a round send me information on the supplements that you have taken. I have done one round and the only thing I added was fiberall and probiotics...oh and b12. WOndering about what else has been taken like for hair and nails. Thanks Shell > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 i tried the Lifecaps to curb my appetite but didnt work for me much. of course, i think some of my hunger is hormonal and in my mind, as i am menopausal. maybe i should try more than just 1 capsule per day, as it suggests on the bottle.> >> I(snipped) would be very interested in what supplements everyone is > taking, if any, and what has worked the best for people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 ha! MMS is clorox with an additional molecule of oxygen. You could get so sick from blood electrifying while having this chemical toxin in your blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 HI michael There is no chlorox in MMS,,I take it every day and I use your Black Box blood purifier for electrification and it has not done anything to me yet..You need to do some study on MMS before you make these comments.It is obvious that you have not tried MMS. A.R Re: supplements ha! MMS is clorox with an additional molecule of oxygen. You could get so sick from blood electrifying while having this chemical toxin in your blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 MMS is Sodium chlorite (NaClO2)... which on reaction breaks down to chlorine dioxide (ClO2). It's the ClO2 that does the work. The body has plenty of protection against oxidation due to an enzyme called glutathione peroxidase (actually a series of enxzymes): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione_peroxidase ....and the body uses oxidation from sources like hydrogen peroxide (H2O2)... via peroxisomes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peroxisome Chlorox is: NaOCl (Sodium hypochlorite) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hypochlorite Given that it's used to disinfect water and also used in dental work it's not very dangerous except when it's highly concentrated. MMS also makes a VERY good mouth wash... and is also used to disinfect water (it's an industrial water cleaner). Interestingly Wormwood (Artemisin) is now being used as the basis of a series of anti-malarial drugs due to the oxidising action of it's peroxide bonds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisinin ....and has now spun off research into a whole new line of anti-malarials (because you can't patent a natural product). :-) > > HI michael > There is no chlorox in MMS,,I take it every day and I use > your Black Box blood purifier for electrification and it has not > done anything to me yet..You need to do some study on MMS > before you make these comments.It is obvious that you > have not tried MMS. > A.R > Re: supplements > > > ha! MMS is clorox with an additional molecule of oxygen. You could get so sick from blood electrifying while having this chemical toxin in your blood. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I know not to take my Armour before having blood work done, but what about Iodoral? Should I avoid that too? How about other supps? I'm getting blood work done tomorrow and I want it to be perfect so I can maintain my thyroid dose. I'm finally feeling whole! BarbF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Interesting you should mention this at this time, Margaret I have recently started Lysine as a 'just in case' endeavour, as i read there are links between gluten, herpes and sleep apnea. I have also seemed to have a small persistent (what I think to be a dormant cold) sore at the corner of my mouth. I came across this interesting site, http://www.zombieinstitute.net with the author's story here: http://www.zombieinstitute.net/MyExperiments.htm The author has done quite a bit of research, I have mailed her and she's been quite helpful. She may be able to advise of any research. Chris > I just wonder how many hypothyroid/autoimmune sufferers have had the herpes virus... > > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Hi, I have read that Lysine can raise your cholesterol as I was thinking of taking it. But when first dianosed as hypo my cholesterol was 7.9 (its down to 4 now), so I don't want to take a chance with anyting that will raise it. Thanks a > > Interesting you should mention this at this time, Margaret > > I have recently started Lysine as a 'just in case' endeavour, as i read there are links between gluten, herpes and sleep apnea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Have you read what Barry Groves and Holford have to say on cholesterol? I believe that P Holford says homocysteine's a more important risk factor for heart problems? have also read that high cholesterol is a hypo-t symptom. gloria hunniford got hers down with thyroid treatment, not the magic margarine she advertises. lysine's an amino acid in food; i gather that if you avoid certain foods containing arginine this causes a better balance of the two amino acids, making it harder for herpes to flare up. that was my understanding, may be wrong. chris > > I have read that Lysine can raise your cholesterol as I was thinking of taking it. But when first dianosed as hypo my cholesterol was 7.9 (its down to 4 now), so I don't want to take a chance with anyting that will raise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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