Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 > Age KI in mg > Over 12 years old 130 > 3 - 12 years old 65 > 1 - 36 months old 32 > < 1 month old 16 I would guess that there are many folks on this group who would have severe adverse reactions if they were to take 130mg of potassium iodine. Given my reactions to iodine supplements at 5mg dosages, I'll take my chances on the radiation! :-( (perhaps POTASSIUM iodide is easier to tolerate... I don't know) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Folks who are concerned about side effects of taking potassium iodide can experiment with it sometime - BEFORE an incident occurs that will call for it. There is also potassium iodate. Keep in mind that there is a rather big diffference between nasty short-term side effects and developing thyroid cancer. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 > Keep in mind that there is a rather big diffference between nasty > short-term side effects and developing thyroid cancer. Yes, but I doubt you have any data that small doses of iodine taken over a long period isn't as effective as preventing thyroid cancer as megadosing on it for a week. After all, the folks who survived the H-Bomb in Japan just ate miso soup with kelp daily... they didn't megadose on anything... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Wow, SArjuna!  I didn't know you aren't supposed to ingest iodine! (Tho now that I think of it, I did read that in Dr Tennant's book, I think.) I have never really taken any long term except SSKI potassium iodide (liquid) or seaweed extract! I just wrote a post to put iodine in water to saturate it down, because a doctor once did give me iodine tablets and I couldn't tolerate them! Now I know why! Thanks again for this informative post.  Diane PS: don't take iodine in water like I posted! From: SArjuna@... <SArjuna@...> Subject: Plan B for Potassium iodide Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:40 AM  Below is a message I sent to those who receive the daily News & Views (currently focused on Japansituation/radiation) I've been sending and also to those on my wellness and environmentale-lists. I will also be sending these (free, blind copy) e-lists info. about herbs and foods that are protective against radiation. As, for those in N. America, the situation at present involveswindborne radiation from afar, thyroid cancer is the main thing toshield against, and this is not difficult to do. First is info. about Posassium iodide from Wikipedia, then great info. about what to do if you can't find any! A few side effects (if any) would sure beat developing cancer. - Shivani ~~~~~~~~~~~~ POTASSIUM IODIDE A) From Wikipedia: Potassiumiodide was approved in 1982 by the US FDA to protect the thyroid glandsfrom radioactive iodine from accidents or fission emergencies. In theevent of an accident or attack at a nuclear power plant, or falloutfrom a nuclear bomb, volatile fission product radionuclides may bereleased, of which 131I is one of the most common by-products and aparticularly dangerous one due to thyroid gland concentration of it,which may lead to thyroid cancer. By saturating the body with a sourceof stable iodide prior to exposure, inhaled or ingested 131I tends tobe excreted. Potassium iodide cannot protect against any other causes of radiationpoisoning, nor can it provide any degree of protection against dirtybombs that produce radionuclides other than isotopes of iodine. WHO Recommended Dosage for Radiological Emergencies involving radioactive iodine[21] Age KI in mg Over 12 years old 130 3 - 12 years old 65 1 - 36 months old 32 < 1 month old 16 Historical use and analysis Following the Chernobyl nuclear reactor disaster in April, 1986, asaturated solution of potassium iodide (SSKI) was administered to 10.5million children and 7 million adults in Poland[22] as a prophylacticmeasure against accumulation of radioactive iodine-131 in the thyroidgland. People in the areas immediately surrounding Chernobyl itself,however, were not given the supplement.[23] Potassium iodide's (KI) value as a radiation protective (thyroidblocking) agent was demonstrated at the time of the Chernobyl nuclearaccident when Soviet authorities distributed it in a 30 km zone aroundthe plant. The purpose was to protect residents from radioactiveiodine, a highly carcinogenic material found in nuclear reactors whichhad been released by the damaged reactor. Only a limited amount of KIwas available, but those who received it were protected. Later, the USNuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) reported, “thousands ofmeasurements of I-131 (radioactive iodine) activity...suggest that theobserved levels were lower than would have been expected had thisprophylactic measure not been taken. The use of KI...was credited withpermissible iodine content in 97% of the evacuees tested.â€[24] Poland, 300 miles from Chernobyl, also distributed KI to protect itspopulation. Approximately 18 million doses were distributed, withfollow-up studies showing no known thyroid cancer among KIrecipients.[25] With the passage of time, people living in irradiatedareas where KI was not available have developed thyroid cancer atepidemic levels, which is why the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)reported “The data clearly demonstrate the risks of thyroidradiation...KI can be used [to] provide safe and effective protectionagainst thyroid cancer caused by irradiation.[26] Chernobyl also demonstrated that the need to protect the thyroid fromradiation was greater than expected. Within ten years of the accident,it became clear that thyroid damage caused by released radioactiveiodine was virtually the only adverse health effect that could bemeasured. As reported by the NRC, studies after the accident showedthat “As of 1996, except for thyroid cancer, there has been noconfirmed increase in the rates of other cancers, including leukemia,among the...public, that have been attributed to releases from theaccident.â€[27] But equally important to the question of KI is the fact that radiationreleases are not “local†events. Researchers at the World HealthOrganization accurately located and counted the cancer victims fromChernobyl and were startled to find that “the increase in incidence [ofthyroid cancer] has been documented up to 500 km from the accidentsite...significant doses from radioactive iodine can occur hundreds ofkilometers from the site, beyond emergency planning zones. " [21]Consequently, far more people than anticipated were affected by theradiation, which caused the United Nations to report in 2002 that “Thenumber of people with thyroid cancer...has exceeded expectations. Over11,000 cases have already been reported.â€[28] These findings were consistent with studies of the effects of previousradiation releases. In 1945, millions of Japanese were exposed toradiation from nuclear weapons, and the effects can still be measured.Today, nearly half (44.8%) the survivors of Nagasaki studied haveidentifiable thyroid disease, with the American Medical Associationreporting “it is remarkable that a biological effect from a singlebrief environmental exposure nearly 60 years in the past is stillpresent and can be detected.â€[29] This, as well as the development ofthyroid cancer among residents in the North Pacific from radioactivefallout following the United States' nuclear weapons testing in the1950s (on islands nearly 200 miles downwind of the tests) wereinstrumental in the decision by the FDA in 1978 to issue a request forthe availability of KI for thyroid protection in the event of a releasefrom a commercial nuclear power plant or weapons-related nuclearincident. Noting that KI's effectiveness was “virtually complete†andfinding that iodine in the form of potassium iodide (KI) wassubstantially superior to other forms including iodate (KIO3) in termsof safety, effectiveness, lack of side effects, and speed of onset, theFDA invited manufacturers to submit applications to produce and marketKI.[30] Today, three companies (Anbex, Inc., Fleming Co, and Recip of Sweden)have met the strict FDA requirements for manufacturing and testing ofKI, and they offer products (IOSAT, ThyroShield, and Thyro-Safe,respectively) which are available for purchase. The Swedishmanufacturing facility for Thyrosafe, a potassium iodide tablet forthyroid protection from radiation manufactured by Recipharm AB, wasmentioned on the secret US 2008 Critical Foreign DependenciesInitiative leaked by Wikileaks in 2010.[31] Adverse reactions There have been some reports of potassium iodide treatment causingswelling of the parotid gland (one of the three glands which secretesaliva), due to its stimulatory effects on saliva production.[32] A saturated solution of KI (SSKI) is typically given orally in adultdoses of about 250 mg iodide several times a day (5 drops of SSKIassumed to be ®˜mL) for thyroid blockage and occasionally as an expectorant. At thesedoses, and sometimes at much lower doses, side effects may include:acne, loss of appetite, or upset stomach (especially during the firstseveral days, as the body adjusts to the medication). More severe sideeffects which require notification of a physician are: fever, weakness,unusual tiredness, swelling in the neck or throat, mouth sores, skinrash, nausea, vomiting, stomach pains, irregular heartbeat, numbness ortingling of the hands or feet, or a metallic taste in the mouth.[33] …. ~+~+~+~+~+~+ Excerpts from: When An ill Wind Blows From Afar! (Like from Japan, Iran or North Korea!) www.ki4u.com/illwind.htm Fortunately, there is a cheap and effective preventative method to protect yourself and family from radioactive iodine. Potassium Iodide (KI) tablets, taken a half hour or more beforeexposure, and then for the next 7-10 days, saturates your thyroid glandwith safe stable iodine where if you then later inhale or ingestradioactive iodine your body simply eliminates it. It provides nearly100% protection from radioiodine and resulting thyroid cell damage andabnormalities, such as loss of thyroid function, nodules in thethyroid, or thyroid cancer. …. In an emergency, if no more KI tablets available here, you cantopically (on the skin) apply an iodine solution, like tincture ofiodine or Betadine, for a similar protective effect. (WARNING: Iodineis NEVER to be ingested or swallowed, it is poison to drink.) Foradults, paint 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen orforearm each day, ideally at least 2 hours prior to initial exposure.For children 3 to 18, but under 150 pounds, only half that amountpainted on daily, or 4 ml. For children under 3 but older than a month,half again, or 2 ml. For newborns to 1 month old, half it again, orjust 1 ml. (One measuring teaspoon is about 5 ml, if you don't have amedicine dropper graduated in ml.) If your iodine solution is strongerthan 2%, reduce the dosage accordingly. Absorption through the skin isnot as reliable a dosing method as using the tablets, but tests showthat it will still be very effective for most. Documentation of theabove at www.ki4u.com,along with sources for KI tablets and formulas there for mixing uppotassium iodide (KI) solutions if you acquire KI powder or crystals.Do not use if allergic to iodine. There are also a few other medicalconditions and medications, discussed there, that are contraindicatedthat your physician can best advise you about. If at all possible,inquire of your doctor NOW if there is any reason why anybody in yourhousehold should not use KI, or iodine solutions topically on theirskin, in a future nuclear emergency, just to be sure. …. Bottom Line: Unfortunately, the federal government does not have largestocks of emergency KI tablets, nor is it likely what they do have canbe gotten where it's needed and then to those who need it... in-time.Also, they no longer support nuclear Civil Defense training of thepublic, the USDA county defense boards, or county level radiationmonitoring networks and fallout shelters*, as they once did during theheights of the Cold War, and thus American families are largely ontheir own today to find this important guidance and make their ownpreparations. For this reason, we've produced both our myth-busting expose... The Good News About Nuclear Destruction! at http://www.ki4u.com/goodnews.htm ....and our popular & essential family guide for... What To Do If A Nuclear Disaster Is Imminent! at http://www.ki4u.com/guide.htm Potassium iodide, radiation meters, radiation stickers! www.ki4u.com/products1.php DETECTION AND PROTECTION PRODUCTS Inany future nuclear emergency, there will be many more people, both nearand far, that are not in harms way, but won't know it without anyradiation detection instruments. They will worry needlessly or,possibly, even panic. Others, who should promptly get to a safer area,won't know to do so either, or if they do go someplace else, won't beable to confirm that it is indeed safer, without such specializeddevices. The key to assuring your family is safe, or have gotten safer,or even if any should later seek medical attention, or not, is onlypossible if you have your own radiation detection instruments, withyou, right then. With them in-hand, in a for-real future nuclearemergency, it's like being the only one then with a flashlight in ablackout to promptly, and confidently, lead the safest way out! [There is much more information at their Web sit, including how to shelter livestock. have bought their fine products. Unfortunately, they are now backed up,working 18 hours a day to fillorers, due to the situation in Japan. You may find potassium iodide at a local pharmacy or wellness store. But if not, go to Plan B, outlined next. Also note, regarding household pets, that you can calculate dosages/amounts for them based on body weight. -Shivani] C) Plan " B " for anyone caught without Potassium Iodide (KI) tablets in a nuclear emergency... Last Updated: March 13th, 2011 Few realize that there are viable alternatives to achieve athyroid-blocking dose of safe iodine in a nuclear emergency when KItablets are in short supply or not available in the locale whereneeded. (Also, to date, there currently aren't enough tablets that havebeen produced nationally, yet, to protect even 5% of the population!)The following should be of interest to everyone, even those who havealready secured a personal family supply of KI tablets, as these Plan " B " alternatives can be shared far and wide with extended family,friends, neighbors and your community-at-large. Especially vital, too, to get this information out to your localdoctors, EMS, pharmacists, community leaders AND CongressionalRepresentatives! These two following alternatives could protect many thousands more thanall the KI and KIO3 tablets currently available anywhere. #1 - Anyone can buy, without restriction, Potassium Iodide USP at alocal chemical supply house (and even some larger photo supply outlets,but make sure it's " USP Grade " ) or from internet and readily mix uptheir own Potassium Iodide (KI) solution that is every bit as effectiveas the tablets. We were also recently reminded, by a science teacher, that every townin America likely has a ready and waiting supply of KI sitting in theirhigh-school science labs that could protect hundreds of their studentsand local residents! A single 500 gram bottle of KI (USP, reagent, orchromatographic grade), now already on many of their shelves, couldprovide 3,846 adult daily doses or 7,692 child (age 3-12) or more foreven younger kids, of thyroid-blocking doses! Also, Stanley L. Rapaport, M.D. had shared with me (way back on2/15/03) that he has been trying to point the following out to theSurgeon General, Homeland Security, and Armed Forces Surgeon Generals.If the government bought KI in bulk, which then is not very expensiveand would work out to about .01 cents per child dose, an easydistribution program could be at the ready in every community in thenation! As Dr. Rapaport explains; " Bulk purchases must be repackaged from 100# to appropriate sizedpackages depending on city size and proposed stockpile locations. Thereare 3492 adult doses per pound or 6984 children's doses per pound. Stored in appropriate location viz. pharmacies, fire or police stations. Made up into a solution of 130mg per 5cc. (1 pound of PotassiumIodide to 17.5 liters of water) gives a solution where one teaspoonfulequals one adult dose, 1/2 teaspoonful equals a children's dose and soforth as per schedule below. Dispensed from appropriate sites including the hospital , parkinglots, drive bys, etc. in any container as is very stable. Paper cups,drink bottles, with dosage directions. Taken for ten days (even one dose is markedly effective) or asdirected via appropriate authorities. Solution is somewhat unpleasantand can be masked by honey, syrup, soft drink, additional water, etc. The solution as made up is equal to 130mg per 5cc (1 teaspoonful) Adult dose is 1 teaspoonful Ages 3-18 1/2 teaspoonful Ages 1 month to 3 years 1/4 teaspoonful Age 1 month or less 1/8 teaspoonful " * * Since this was first written in 2003, the FDA doses for children has changed slightly to the following... Children over 12 years to 18 years: 5ml or 1 teaspoonful every day (130 mg) who weigh at least 150 pounds Children over 12 years to 18 years: 2.5ml or 1/2 teaspoonful every day (65 mg) who weigh less than 150 pounds Children over 3 years to 12 years: 2.5ml or 1/2 teaspoonful every day (65 mg) Children over 1 month to 3 years: 1.25ml or 1/4 teaspoonful every day (32.5 mg) Babies at birth to 1 month: 0.625ml or 1/8 teaspoonful every day (16.25 mg) Pregnant or breastfeeding women, or babies under 1 month of age: Take as directed above and call a doctor as soon as possible.Repeat dosing should be avoided. It is recommended that thyroidfunction be checked in babies less than 1 month of age that take KI.Women who are pregnant or breastfeeding should also be checked by adoctor if repeat dosing is necessary. Although these precautions shouldbe taken, the benefits of short-term use of KI to block uptake ofradioactive iodine by the thyroid gland far exceed its chances of sideeffects. As Dr. Rapaport details above, this is all too easy to have in-placeand ready to go, and rightly deserves serious consideration by ourgovernment officials tasked with safeguarding public health at alllevels; federal, state, and municipal. Most locales at risk of exposure would have enough time to do a quickdrive-through ad-hoc set-up dispensing of it because radioactive iodineis dangerous far downwind and it would take time for the wind to carryit into many communities well downwind of ground zero. There would beenough time to save many, IF powdered or crystal KI had beenpre-positioned! Right now, there have not been enough KI tabletsproduced in all the country to cover even 5% of the population, and theKI, IF pre-positioned in every community with a simple set ofinstructions, would fill this void and potentially save 10's ofthousands of America's children from future thyroid cancer. This is clearly a legitimate Federal Government public healthresponsibility, as radioactive fallout travelling on the wind will notrespect state borders. The Federal Govt has the opportunity here to beseen as heros to have addressed this issue in advance, or risk beingcondemned as derelict in their duties if they had failed to, when theneed arises. (Most all other developed nations in the world hadacquired large emergency stocks of KI after Chernobyl.) Even two yearsafter 9/11, the total Federal Government stockpile consisted of 1million doses held by the CDC and another 600,000 doses (half of whichwe sold them) held by the Office of Emergency Preparedness. That's onlyenough for 1.6 million people, for ONE day, and then it's all gone!And, while that national stockpile has grown since, it's still nowherenear enough to protect very many, nor is it likely to be where it willbe most needed when the time comes! In the meantime, we've stockpiled here at KI4U, Inc. an emergencyreserve of over 6 million adult doses or over 12 million child doses,in the form of our KI vials, where each makes up a KI solutionsufficient for 200 adult doses or, at least, 400 child doses, as seenhere. This reserve is for if the govt had failed to, and/or everybodyhad run out of KI tablets, in a future nuclear crisis. On the local level, community leaders need to pull together theirresourceful science teachers, local pharmacists and doctors to fullyexplore the resources already at hand and available for any futurenuclear emergency that might befall their locale. You might could beresponsible for saving many in your community from future thyroidcancer by simply bringing this to the attention of these localauthorities and experts! There are two kinds of Potassium Iodide (KI) solutions that can bemade. Saturated and anything less than saturated, and both of these twosimple formulas and dosing recommendations, along with more details,are at the Potassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ at the Q & Asection entitled: How Do You Make a Potassium Iodide (KI) Solution? #2 - While it is poisonous to ingest (drink/swallow) elemental iodine,like what's in tincture of iodine, or Povidone-iodine solutions (likethe Betadine brand solution), besides being largely ineffective forthyroid-blocking and very dangerous, perhaps even fatal to have a childdrink any of them, they can be used topically, on the skin, to greateffect. There has been some research with both humans and dogs into topically(on the skin) applied Povidone-Iodine (10%) solution (such as Betadineor Povidex solutions), and also with tincture of iodine, to test theabsorption rates of iodine directly, and safely, through the skin. According to research by Health Physicist Ken , Hershey MedicalCenter, using 24 healthy adult male subjects, an adult could get ablocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tinctureof Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior toI-131 contamination. The abstract of his study titled " Effectiveness ofSkin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the HumanThyroid Gland " from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages911-914, states: " Although there were large variations within each subject groupin regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase inserum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective inreducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in theabsence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application oftincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that oforal KI. " More details (and links to this research) on these topical applications(readily available at your local pharmacy) can be found at thePotassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ at the Q & A sectionentitled: Is Iodized Salt, Tincture of Iodine, Water Purification Tabs,or other Iodine Sources Effective? Again, here too, you might could be responsible for saving many in yourcommunity from future thyroid cancer by simply bringing this researchto the attention of your friends, neighbors, relatives, localofficials, pharmacists and doctors! #3 - EDUCATION of the public to basic nuclear Civil Defense isessential! Promoting the public and private distribution, andpublication in local newspapers, of WHAT TO DO IF A NUCLEAR DISASTER ISIMMINENT! can literally empower millions of Americans with thelife-saving knowledge to respond correctly in a future nuclear crisis.Start with your own local community today to get this vital informationout via your local government, media, churches and communityorganizations. Banish panic, as you help your community embrace thesesimple life-saving preparations! And, for the current concerns of the Japanese nuke plants, read andshare When An ill Wind Blows From Afar! (Info & Preps for RadiationHere from Japan!) Remember, too, as often mentioned on the FAQ, touch bases with yourpersonal physician now to assure that there isn't any reason you, oryour children, shouldn't take KI or KIO3 in a future nuclear emergency.(An iodine allergy is the usual disqualifying condition, if any, butonly your doctor knows your full medical history and currentmedications to make that determination.) Asking them now, before anyemergency would likely make that impossible to do so, is just anotherpart of your prudent preparations here. Shane Connor KI4U, Inc. Be Sure To Also See/Read... When An ill Wind Blows From Afar! (Info & Preps for Radiation Here from Japan!) Comments or Suggestions: webmaster@...  www.NukAlert.com 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. All Rights Reserved.  www.RadShelters4U.com 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. .  www.RadMeters4U.com 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. .  www.KI4U.com 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. . ~+~+~+~ Someone has just sent me the info. below, re pets. The dose forpeople is usually based on 150 lb. So if you have a 75 lb dog, you givehim half a human dose. 15 lb dog gets 1/10. Give teeny birds (canaries,budgies etc) a flake of kelp, not iodine. Too easy to give them iodinepoisoning. Scanlan, DVM, MSFP, CVA Executive Director, AHVMA Box 630 Abingdon, MD 21009 [Don't give anybodyactual iodine internally! She must mean Potssium iodide. Thesuggestion re birds is what I thought worth sharing. If anyone's vethas good advice re. birds, please let me know.] ~~~~~~~ Below areexcerpts from a just-out article in the UK Daily Mail. I cannot vouchfor its accuracy. We will know more soon. Alvarez is the guy tolisten to. America on radiation alert: Japan faces world's worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl as experts warn fallout may reach U.S. UK Daily Mail 3:56 AM on 15th March 2011 www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366341/America-nuclear-alert-As-Japan-begs-U-S\ -help-fears-fallout-reach-West-Coast.html California 'monitoring situation closely' amid dramatic escalation of disaster Japan's nuclear crisis now appears worse than the Three MileIsland nuclear accident in 1979 - but not yet as bad as Chernobyl in1986 Japan PM tells people within 19 miles of plant to stay indoors as radiation reaches levels that could impact human heath Radioactive wind could reach Tokyo within hours Nuclear Regulatory Commission admits it is 'quite possible' radiation could reach the U.S. 'Worst-case scenario' could see 30,000ft winds sending nuclear cloud across Pacific - possibly hitting by Tuesday night Fears that America could be hit by the nuclear fallout from the Japanearthquake have dramatically increased as workers prepared to abandon areactor crippled by the earthquake and tsunami tonight in the face ofwhat is set to become the world's second worst nuclear disaster -topped only by Chernobyl. Damage at the number two reactor at the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichinuclear power complex is worse than thought, the Japanese governmentadmitted tonight, sparking fears for human health both in Japan and theU.S. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission has admitted it is 'quite possible' the fallout could reach America. .... Nuclear energy 'remains a part of the President's overall energyplan', despite new concerns about its safety, a White House spokesmansaid. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 There seems to be alot of confusion with regards to IOdine. I am aware that there are some people who have had difficulty with Iodine supplements. Often this is more due to the body's metabolism then because of the actual supplement itself. Simply put, those who have had trouble with oral Iodine, also has trouble taking other supplements. That being said, I would heavily recommend anyone interested in the subject of Iodine to read the following sources. I hope this clears up the confusion. And for those who are looking for sources, you can find that the naturalnews link below, as well. It is important to understand why the body needs Iodine, and not just during times of a nuclear threat. Blessings to All, Lizzie -Brownstein-MD-author-of-Iodine-Why-You-Need-It-Why-You ... Brownstein, M.D. authorof Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Cannot Live without It. Clinical Experience with Inorganic Non-radioactive Iodine/Iodide ....www.naturalhealthsciencenews.org/-Brownstein-MD-author-of-Iodine- Why-You-Need-It-Why-You-Cannot-Live-without-It?... - Cached- Block all naturalhealthsciencenews.org results Iodine protects thyroid and glandular system from radiation damage ... Mar 15, 2011 ... (NaturalNews) In the aftermath of Japan's nuclear ....www.naturalnews.com/031708_iodine_radiation.html - Cached Iodine Treatments for Radiation Exposure | Dr. Mark's Blog Iodine Treatments for Radiation Exposure. Posted by Mark Sircus on 14 March ....blog.imva.info/medicine/iodine-treatments-radiation-exposure From: evie15422@... Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:08:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Plan B for Potassium iodide Wow, SArjuna! I didn't know you aren't supposed to ingest iodine! (Tho now that I think of it, I did read that in Dr Tennant's book, I think.) I have never really taken any long term except SSKI potassium iodide (liquid) or seaweed extract! I just wrote a post to put iodine in water to saturate it down, because a doctor once did give me iodine tablets and I couldn't tolerate them! Now I know why! Thanks again for this informative post. Diane PS: don't take iodine in water like I posted! From: SArjuna@... <SArjuna@...> Subject: Plan B for Potassium iodide Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:40 AM Below is a message I sent to those who receive the daily News & Views (currently focused on Japansituation/radiation) I've been sending and also to those on my wellness and environmentale-lists. I will also be sending these (free, blind copy) e-lists info. about herbs and foods that are protective against radiation. As, for those in N. America, the situation at present involveswindborne radiation from afar, thyroid cancer is the main thing toshield against, and this is not difficult to do. First is info. about Posassium iodide from Wikipedia, then great info. about what to do if you can't find any! A few side effects (if any) would sure beat developing cancer. - Shivani ~~~~~~~~~~~~ POTASSIUM IODIDE A) From Wikipedia: Potassiumiodide was approved in 1982 by the US FDA to protect the thyroid glandsfrom radioactive iodine from accidents or fission emergencies. In theevent of an accident or attack at a nuclear power plant, or falloutfrom a nuclear bomb, volatile fission product radionuclides may bereleased, of which 131I is one of the most common by-products and aparticularly dangerous one due to thyroid gland concentration of it,which may lead to thyroid cancer. By saturating the body with a sourceof stable iodide prior to exposure, inhaled or ingested 131I tends tobe excreted. Potassium iodide cannot protect against any other causes of radiationpoisoning, nor can it provide any degree of protection against dirtybombs that produce radionuclides other than isotopes of iodine. WHO Recommended Dosage for Radiological Emergencies involving radioactive iodine[21] Age KI in mg Over 12 years old 130 3 - 12 years old 65 1 - 36 months old 32 < 1 month old 16 Historical use and analysis Following the Chernobyl nuclear reactor disaster in April, 1986, asaturated solution of potassium iodide (SSKI) was administered to 10.5million children and 7 million adults in Poland[22] as a prophylacticmeasure against accumulation of radioactive iodine-131 in the thyroidgland. People in the areas immediately surrounding Chernobyl itself,however, were not given the supplement.[23] Potassium iodide's (KI) value as a radiation protective (thyroidblocking) agent was demonstrated at the time of the Chernobyl nuclearaccident when Soviet authorities distributed it in a 30 km zone aroundthe plant. The purpose was to protect residents from radioactiveiodine, a highly carcinogenic material found in nuclear reactors whichhad been released by the damaged reactor. Only a limited amount of KIwas available, but those who received it were protected. Later, the USNuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) reported, “thousands ofmeasurements of I-131 (radioactive iodine) activity...suggest that theobserved levels were lower than would have been expected had thisprophylactic measure not been taken. The use of KI...was credited withpermissible iodine content in 97% of the evacuees tested.â€[24] Poland, 300 miles from Chernobyl, also distributed KI to protect itspopulation. Approximately 18 million doses were distributed, withfollow-up studies showing no known thyroid cancer among KIrecipients.[25] With the passage of time, people living in irradiatedareas where KI was not available have developed thyroid cancer atepidemic levels, which is why the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)reported “The data clearly demonstrate the risks of thyroidradiation...KI can be used [to] provide safe and effective protectionagainst thyroid cancer caused by irradiation.[26] Chernobyl also demonstrated that the need to protect the thyroid fromradiation was greater than expected. Within ten years of the accident,it became clear that thyroid damage caused by released radioactiveiodine was virtually the only adverse health effect that could bemeasured. As reported by the NRC, studies after the accident showedthat “As of 1996, except for thyroid cancer, there has been noconfirmed increase in the rates of other cancers, including leukemia,among the...public, that have been attributed to releases from theaccident.â€[27] But equally important to the question of KI is the fact that radiationreleases are not “local†events. Researchers at the World HealthOrganization accurately located and counted the cancer victims fromChernobyl and were startled to find that “the increase in incidence [ofthyroid cancer] has been documented up to 500 km from the accidentsite...significant doses from radioactive iodine can occur hundreds ofkilometers from the site, beyond emergency planning zones. " [21]Consequently, far more people than anticipated were affected by theradiation, which caused the United Nations to report in 2002 that “Thenumber of people with thyroid cancer...has exceeded expectations. Over11,000 cases have already been reported.â€[28] These findings were consistent with studies of the effects of previousradiation releases. In 1945, millions of Japanese were exposed toradiation from nuclear weapons, and the effects can still be measured.Today, nearly half (44.8%) the survivors of Nagasaki studied haveidentifiable thyroid disease, with the American Medical Associationreporting “it is remarkable that a biological effect from a singlebrief environmental exposure nearly 60 years in the past is stillpresent and can be detected.â€[29] This, as well as the development ofthyroid cancer among residents in the North Pacific from radioactivefallout following the United States' nuclear weapons testing in the1950s (on islands nearly 200 miles downwind of the tests) wereinstrumental in the decision by the FDA in 1978 to issue a request forthe availability of KI for thyroid protection in the event of a releasefrom a commercial nuclear power plant or weapons-related nuclearincident. Noting that KI's effectiveness was “virtually complete†andfinding that iodine in the form of potassium iodide (KI) wassubstantially superior to other forms including iodate (KIO3) in termsof safety, effectiveness, lack of side effects, and speed of onset, theFDA invited manufacturers to submit applications to produce and marketKI.[30] Today, three companies (Anbex, Inc., Fleming Co, and Recip of Sweden)have met the strict FDA requirements for manufacturing and testing ofKI, and they offer products (IOSAT, ThyroShield, and Thyro-Safe,respectively) which are available for purchase. The Swedishmanufacturing facility for Thyrosafe, a potassium iodide tablet forthyroid protection from radiation manufactured by Recipharm AB, wasmentioned on the secret US 2008 Critical Foreign DependenciesInitiative leaked by Wikileaks in 2010.[31] Adverse reactions There have been some reports of potassium iodide treatment causingswelling of the parotid gland (one of the three glands which secretesaliva), due to its stimulatory effects on saliva production.[32] A saturated solution of KI (SSKI) is typically given orally in adultdoses of about 250 mg iodide several times a day (5 drops of SSKIassumed to be ®˜mL) for thyroid blockage and occasionally as an expectorant. At thesedoses, and sometimes at much lower doses, side effects may include:acne, loss of appetite, or upset stomach (especially during the firstseveral days, as the body adjusts to the medication). More severe sideeffects which require notification of a physician are: fever, weakness,unusual tiredness, swelling in the neck or throat, mouth sores, skinrash, nausea, vomiting, stomach pains, irregular heartbeat, numbness ortingling of the hands or feet, or a metallic taste in the mouth.[33] …. ~+~+~+~+~+~+ Excerpts from: When An ill Wind Blows From Afar! (Like from Japan, Iran or North Korea!) www.ki4u.com/illwind.htm Fortunately, there is a cheap and effective preventative method to protect yourself and family from radioactive iodine. Potassium Iodide (KI) tablets, taken a half hour or more beforeexposure, and then for the next 7-10 days, saturates your thyroid glandwith safe stable iodine where if you then later inhale or ingestradioactive iodine your body simply eliminates it. It provides nearly100% protection from radioiodine and resulting thyroid cell damage andabnormalities, such as loss of thyroid function, nodules in thethyroid, or thyroid cancer. …. In an emergency, if no more KI tablets available here, you cantopically (on the skin) apply an iodine solution, like tincture ofiodine or Betadine, for a similar protective effect. (WARNING: Iodineis NEVER to be ingested or swallowed, it is poison to drink.) Foradults, paint 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen orforearm each day, ideally at least 2 hours prior to initial exposure.For children 3 to 18, but under 150 pounds, only half that amountpainted on daily, or 4 ml. For children under 3 but older than a month,half again, or 2 ml. For newborns to 1 month old, half it again, orjust 1 ml. (One measuring teaspoon is about 5 ml, if you don't have amedicine dropper graduated in ml.) If your iodine solution is strongerthan 2%, reduce the dosage accordingly. Absorption through the skin isnot as reliable a dosing method as using the tablets, but tests showthat it will still be very effective for most. Documentation of theabove at www.ki4u.com,along with sources for KI tablets and formulas there for mixing uppotassium iodide (KI) solutions if you acquire KI powder or crystals.Do not use if allergic to iodine. There are also a few other medicalconditions and medications, discussed there, that are contraindicatedthat your physician can best advise you about. If at all possible,inquire of your doctor NOW if there is any reason why anybody in yourhousehold should not use KI, or iodine solutions topically on theirskin, in a future nuclear emergency, just to be sure. …. Bottom Line: Unfortunately, the federal government does not have largestocks of emergency KI tablets, nor is it likely what they do have canbe gotten where it's needed and then to those who need it... in-time.Also, they no longer support nuclear Civil Defense training of thepublic, the USDA county defense boards, or county level radiationmonitoring networks and fallout shelters*, as they once did during theheights of the Cold War, and thus American families are largely ontheir own today to find this important guidance and make their ownpreparations. For this reason, we've produced both our myth-busting expose... The Good News About Nuclear Destruction! at http://www.ki4u.com/goodnews.htm ....and our popular & essential family guide for... What To Do If A Nuclear Disaster Is Imminent! at http://www.ki4u.com/guide.htm Potassium iodide, radiation meters, radiation stickers! www.ki4u.com/products1.php DETECTION AND PROTECTION PRODUCTS Inany future nuclear emergency, there will be many more people, both nearand far, that are not in harms way, but won't know it without anyradiation detection instruments. They will worry needlessly or,possibly, even panic. Others, who should promptly get to a safer area,won't know to do so either, or if they do go someplace else, won't beable to confirm that it is indeed safer, without such specializeddevices. The key to assuring your family is safe, or have gotten safer,or even if any should later seek medical attention, or not, is onlypossible if you have your own radiation detection instruments, withyou, right then. With them in-hand, in a for-real future nuclearemergency, it's like being the only one then with a flashlight in ablackout to promptly, and confidently, lead the safest way out! [There is much more information at their Web sit, including how to shelter livestock. have bought their fine products. Unfortunately, they are now backed up,working 18 hours a day to fillorers, due to the situation in Japan. You may find potassium iodide at a local pharmacy or wellness store. But if not, go to Plan B, outlined next. Also note, regarding household pets, that you can calculate dosages/amounts for them based on body weight. -Shivani] C) Plan " B " for anyone caught without Potassium Iodide (KI) tablets in a nuclear emergency... Last Updated: March 13th, 2011 Few realize that there are viable alternatives to achieve athyroid-blocking dose of safe iodine in a nuclear emergency when KItablets are in short supply or not available in the locale whereneeded. (Also, to date, there currently aren't enough tablets that havebeen produced nationally, yet, to protect even 5% of the population!)The following should be of interest to everyone, even those who havealready secured a personal family supply of KI tablets, as these Plan " B " alternatives can be shared far and wide with extended family,friends, neighbors and your community-at-large. Especially vital, too, to get this information out to your localdoctors, EMS, pharmacists, community leaders AND CongressionalRepresentatives! These two following alternatives could protect many thousands more thanall the KI and KIO3 tablets currently available anywhere. #1 - Anyone can buy, without restriction, Potassium Iodide USP at alocal chemical supply house (and even some larger photo supply outlets,but make sure it's " USP Grade " ) or from internet and readily mix uptheir own Potassium Iodide (KI) solution that is every bit as effectiveas the tablets. We were also recently reminded, by a science teacher, that every townin America likely has a ready and waiting supply of KI sitting in theirhigh-school science labs that could protect hundreds of their studentsand local residents! A single 500 gram bottle of KI (USP, reagent, orchromatographic grade), now already on many of their shelves, couldprovide 3,846 adult daily doses or 7,692 child (age 3-12) or more foreven younger kids, of thyroid-blocking doses! Also, Stanley L. Rapaport, M.D. had shared with me (way back on2/15/03) that he has been trying to point the following out to theSurgeon General, Homeland Security, and Armed Forces Surgeon Generals.If the government bought KI in bulk, which then is not very expensiveand would work out to about .01 cents per child dose, an easydistribution program could be at the ready in every community in thenation! As Dr. Rapaport explains; " Bulk purchases must be repackaged from 100# to appropriate sizedpackages depending on city size and proposed stockpile locations. Thereare 3492 adult doses per pound or 6984 children's doses per pound. Stored in appropriate location viz. pharmacies, fire or police stations. Made up into a solution of 130mg per 5cc. (1 pound of PotassiumIodide to 17.5 liters of water) gives a solution where one teaspoonfulequals one adult dose, 1/2 teaspoonful equals a children's dose and soforth as per schedule below. Dispensed from appropriate sites including the hospital , parkinglots, drive bys, etc. in any container as is very stable. Paper cups,drink bottles, with dosage directions. Taken for ten days (even one dose is markedly effective) or asdirected via appropriate authorities. Solution is somewhat unpleasantand can be masked by honey, syrup, soft drink, additional water, etc. The solution as made up is equal to 130mg per 5cc (1 teaspoonful) Adult dose is 1 teaspoonful Ages 3-18 1/2 teaspoonful Ages 1 month to 3 years 1/4 teaspoonful Age 1 month or less 1/8 teaspoonful " * * Since this was first written in 2003, the FDA doses for children has changed slightly to the following... Children over 12 years to 18 years: 5ml or 1 teaspoonful every day (130 mg) who weigh at least 150 pounds Children over 12 years to 18 years: 2.5ml or 1/2 teaspoonful every day (65 mg) who weigh less than 150 pounds Children over 3 years to 12 years: 2.5ml or 1/2 teaspoonful every day (65 mg) Children over 1 month to 3 years: 1.25ml or 1/4 teaspoonful every day (32.5 mg) Babies at birth to 1 month: 0.625ml or 1/8 teaspoonful every day (16.25 mg) Pregnant or breastfeeding women, or babies under 1 month of age: Take as directed above and call a doctor as soon as possible.Repeat dosing should be avoided. It is recommended that thyroidfunction be checked in babies less than 1 month of age that take KI.Women who are pregnant or breastfeeding should also be checked by adoctor if repeat dosing is necessary. Although these precautions shouldbe taken, the benefits of short-term use of KI to block uptake ofradioactive iodine by the thyroid gland far exceed its chances of sideeffects. As Dr. Rapaport details above, this is all too easy to have in-placeand ready to go, and rightly deserves serious consideration by ourgovernment officials tasked with safeguarding public health at alllevels; federal, state, and municipal. Most locales at risk of exposure would have enough time to do a quickdrive-through ad-hoc set-up dispensing of it because radioactive iodineis dangerous far downwind and it would take time for the wind to carryit into many communities well downwind of ground zero. There would beenough time to save many, IF powdered or crystal KI had beenpre-positioned! Right now, there have not been enough KI tabletsproduced in all the country to cover even 5% of the population, and theKI, IF pre-positioned in every community with a simple set ofinstructions, would fill this void and potentially save 10's ofthousands of America's children from future thyroid cancer. This is clearly a legitimate Federal Government public healthresponsibility, as radioactive fallout travelling on the wind will notrespect state borders. The Federal Govt has the opportunity here to beseen as heros to have addressed this issue in advance, or risk beingcondemned as derelict in their duties if they had failed to, when theneed arises. (Most all other developed nations in the world hadacquired large emergency stocks of KI after Chernobyl.) Even two yearsafter 9/11, the total Federal Government stockpile consisted of 1million doses held by the CDC and another 600,000 doses (half of whichwe sold them) held by the Office of Emergency Preparedness. That's onlyenough for 1.6 million people, for ONE day, and then it's all gone!And, while that national stockpile has grown since, it's still nowherenear enough to protect very many, nor is it likely to be where it willbe most needed when the time comes! In the meantime, we've stockpiled here at KI4U, Inc. an emergencyreserve of over 6 million adult doses or over 12 million child doses,in the form of our KI vials, where each makes up a KI solutionsufficient for 200 adult doses or, at least, 400 child doses, as seenhere. This reserve is for if the govt had failed to, and/or everybodyhad run out of KI tablets, in a future nuclear crisis. On the local level, community leaders need to pull together theirresourceful science teachers, local pharmacists and doctors to fullyexplore the resources already at hand and available for any futurenuclear emergency that might befall their locale. You might could beresponsible for saving many in your community from future thyroidcancer by simply bringing this to the attention of these localauthorities and experts! There are two kinds of Potassium Iodide (KI) solutions that can bemade. Saturated and anything less than saturated, and both of these twosimple formulas and dosing recommendations, along with more details,are at the Potassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ at the Q & Asection entitled: How Do You Make a Potassium Iodide (KI) Solution? #2 - While it is poisonous to ingest (drink/swallow) elemental iodine,like what's in tincture of iodine, or Povidone-iodine solutions (likethe Betadine brand solution), besides being largely ineffective forthyroid-blocking and very dangerous, perhaps even fatal to have a childdrink any of them, they can be used topically, on the skin, to greateffect. There has been some research with both humans and dogs into topically(on the skin) applied Povidone-Iodine (10%) solution (such as Betadineor Povidex solutions), and also with tincture of iodine, to test theabsorption rates of iodine directly, and safely, through the skin. According to research by Health Physicist Ken , Hershey MedicalCenter, using 24 healthy adult male subjects, an adult could get ablocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tinctureof Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior toI-131 contamination. The abstract of his study titled " Effectiveness ofSkin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the HumanThyroid Gland " from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages911-914, states: " Although there were large variations within each subject groupin regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase inserum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective inreducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in theabsence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application oftincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that oforal KI. " More details (and links to this research) on these topical applications(readily available at your local pharmacy) can be found at thePotassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ at the Q & A sectionentitled: Is Iodized Salt, Tincture of Iodine, Water Purification Tabs,or other Iodine Sources Effective? Again, here too, you might could be responsible for saving many in yourcommunity from future thyroid cancer by simply bringing this researchto the attention of your friends, neighbors, relatives, localofficials, pharmacists and doctors! #3 - EDUCATION of the public to basic nuclear Civil Defense isessential! Promoting the public and private distribution, andpublication in local newspapers, of WHAT TO DO IF A NUCLEAR DISASTER ISIMMINENT! can literally empower millions of Americans with thelife-saving knowledge to respond correctly in a future nuclear crisis.Start with your own local community today to get this vital informationout via your local government, media, churches and communityorganizations. Banish panic, as you help your community embrace thesesimple life-saving preparations! And, for the current concerns of the Japanese nuke plants, read andshare When An ill Wind Blows From Afar! (Info & Preps for RadiationHere from Japan!) Remember, too, as often mentioned on the FAQ, touch bases with yourpersonal physician now to assure that there isn't any reason you, oryour children, shouldn't take KI or KIO3 in a future nuclear emergency.(An iodine allergy is the usual disqualifying condition, if any, butonly your doctor knows your full medical history and currentmedications to make that determination.) Asking them now, before anyemergency would likely make that impossible to do so, is just anotherpart of your prudent preparations here. Shane Connor KI4U, Inc. Be Sure To Also See/Read... When An ill Wind Blows From Afar! (Info & Preps for Radiation Here from Japan!) Comments or Suggestions: webmaster@...  www.NukAlert.com 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. All Rights Reserved.  www.RadShelters4U.com 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. .  www.RadMeters4U.com 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. .  www.KI4U.com 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. . ~+~+~+~ Someone has just sent me the info. below, re pets. The dose forpeople is usually based on 150 lb. So if you have a 75 lb dog, you givehim half a human dose. 15 lb dog gets 1/10. Give teeny birds (canaries,budgies etc) a flake of kelp, not iodine. Too easy to give them iodinepoisoning. Scanlan, DVM, MSFP, CVA Executive Director, AHVMA Box 630 Abingdon, MD 21009 [Don't give anybodyactual iodine internally! She must mean Potssium iodide. Thesuggestion re birds is what I thought worth sharing. If anyone's vethas good advice re. birds, please let me know.] ~~~~~~~ Below areexcerpts from a just-out article in the UK Daily Mail. I cannot vouchfor its accuracy. We will know more soon. Alvarez is the guy tolisten to. America on radiation alert: Japan faces world's worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl as experts warn fallout may reach U.S. UK Daily Mail 3:56 AM on 15th March 2011 www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366341/America-nuclear-alert-As-Japan-begs-U-S\ -help-fears-fallout-reach-West-Coast.html California 'monitoring situation closely' amid dramatic escalation of disaster Japan's nuclear crisis now appears worse than the Three MileIsland nuclear accident in 1979 - but not yet as bad as Chernobyl in1986 Japan PM tells people within 19 miles of plant to stay indoors as radiation reaches levels that could impact human heath Radioactive wind could reach Tokyo within hours Nuclear Regulatory Commission admits it is 'quite possible' radiation could reach the U.S. 'Worst-case scenario' could see 30,000ft winds sending nuclear cloud across Pacific - possibly hitting by Tuesday night Fears that America could be hit by the nuclear fallout from the Japanearthquake have dramatically increased as workers prepared to abandon areactor crippled by the earthquake and tsunami tonight in the face ofwhat is set to become the world's second worst nuclear disaster -topped only by Chernobyl. Damage at the number two reactor at the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichinuclear power complex is worse than thought, the Japanese governmentadmitted tonight, sparking fears for human health both in Japan and theU.S. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission has admitted it is 'quite possible' the fallout could reach America. .... Nuclear energy 'remains a part of the President's overall energyplan', despite new concerns about its safety, a White House spokesmansaid. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Couldn't you just take kelp or seaweed tablet suppliments and have the same protection as with potassium iodide? Deidra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Manfred Mueller from the http://www.thehomeopathiccollege.org/ Safer Alternatives: Iodine from kelp is more easily absorbed by sensitive people than potassium iodide tablets and less known to cause adverse reactions. Other food and iodine sources are listed here: http:// www.naturalnews.com/031730_iodine_radiation_poisoning.html On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:13 AM, dpestun wrote: > Couldn't you just take kelp or seaweed tablet suppliments and have > the same protection as with potassium iodide? > Deidra > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 dpestun wrote: > Couldn't you just take kelp or seaweed tablet suppliments and have the same protection as with potassium iodide? > > Actually No. All kelp comes from the ocean continental shelves, and is running high in arsenic as are other seaweeds. The problem is the arsenic tainted conventional fertilizers runoff. To be truly organic, they have to grow it in a container with clean seawater...whatever that is...I would not recommend it. Harvested kelp is commonly spiked with potassium iodide anyway as the iodine numbers are often too low. Then too there is the runoff from sewage treatment plants, that do Not remove pharmaceuticals, xenoestrogens, or insecticides that go down the drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 There are safe forms of iodine to ingest. Not the iodine in your medicine cabinet. Below is an excerpt from I what I sent my e-list yesterday, re preventing radiation poisoning and detoxing from exposure. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com Japan/radiation Below are URLs to several excellent articles on how to protect yourself from absorbing radiation as well as how to detox from it. We all have a burden of heavy metals we've absorbed already, just from living in an era of nuclear weapons testing, x-rays, etc. So this is very useful information, regardless of what ensues in Japan. A few comments: - Use only live-culture miso, and don't cook it. Add it to your food after the food is cooked and cooled down some. Buy only organic miso, if you want to avoid GM soy. - If you take charcoal, do it between meals on an empty stomach. If taken with food it will absorb nutrients from your food. That's not what you want it to absorb. - IMO, it's better not to tinker with homeopathic remedies, but use them only as directed by a homeopath with a good track record. Repeated doses, in particular, can be very " discombobulating. " - We are told that our government will tell us when it is time to take potassium iodide. However, we must take into consideration that such an announcement would cause great panic, as there is of course nowhere near enough KI to go around. Stocks are just about sold out already, to the early responders. Therefore, it's logical that the government will be reluctant to make such an announcement. And their track record of advising the public re toxins is abysmal. www.susunweed.com/Article_Surviving_Radiation.htm Protocol for nuclear contamination [and everyday radiation] Thursday, March 17, 2011 by: Mark Sircus., AC, OMD http://news-now.org/2011/03/protocol-for-nuclear-contamination-iodine-glutathion\ e-chelation-clay-baking-soda Ingrid Naiman writes: [i added an excerpt here, as the point that the various radioactive materials are absorbed by our bodies as if they were specific nutrients is excellent. Potassium ioide is not a radiation panacea.] http://www.ingridnaiman.com/subscription_lists/chronological_index.html There are a lot of different radioactive materials and each has similarities to organic substances normally used by the body. An example that is sometimes used is that strontium-90 is absorbed by bones and teeth because the body treats it as if it were calcium. One theory advanced by those in the holistic health world is that the body will not absorb strontium if it has enough calcium. Moreover, the strontium will be replaced by calcium if the body is supplied with a proper form of calcium. This is why we should not panic and buy the first substance recommended for radioactivity but rather wait to see what is being released. Meanwhile, there is corroborative material from the allopathic world of medicine in the sense that patients who are being treated with radioactive substances are advised to forego natural forms of that substance for some period following treatment. .... At the moment, we are not 100% certain about which cesium has been released but we do know that the body " views " cesium as it would potassium. So, unlike iodine which accumulates in the thyroid, cesium accumulates mainly in the reproductive organs and muscles and secondarily in the liver and kidneys and thence into the blood and hence everywhere else in the body. Of all the known agents for addressing cesium, green sea vegetables are regarded as the most effective. The required dosage is not all that great: 2-3 ounces a week. During times of direct exposure, the dosage can be increased to double or even triple the preventative amount. .... http://drdavidbrownstein.blogspot.com/ He is posting updates. His " answer " is iodine. But remember that iodine only helps with one of the radioactive substances. Radiation Therapies Carolyn Dean MD ND | Wednesday, March 16, 2011 http://drcarolyndean.com/2011/03/radiation-therapies/?utm_source=0157-1 & utm_medi\ um=Email Sites to check re. radiation levels in USA: www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/ / RadiationNetwork.com www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Here's a link that might be useful also: http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/forum/topics/seaweed-protection-from ~ Snoshoe > > > > There are safe forms of iodine to ingest. Not the iodine in your medicine cabinet. > Below is an excerpt from I what I sent my e-list yesterday, re preventing radiation poisoning and detoxing from exposure. > > Shivani Arjuna > www.LifeEnergies.com > > Japan/radiation > Below are URLs to several excellent articles on how to protect yourself from absorbing radiation as well as how to detox from it. We all have a burden of heavy metals we've absorbed already, just from living in an era of nuclear weapons testing, x-rays, etc. So this is very useful information, regardless of what ensues in Japan. > A few comments: > - Use only live-culture miso, and don't cook it. Add it to your food after the food is cooked and cooled down some. Buy only organic miso, if you want to avoid GM soy. > - If you take charcoal, do it between meals on an empty stomach. If taken with food it will absorb nutrients from your food. That's not what you want it to absorb. > - IMO, it's better not to tinker with homeopathic remedies, but use them only as directed by a homeopath with a good track record. Repeated doses, in particular, can be very " discombobulating. " > - We are told that our government will tell us when it is time to take potassium iodide. However, we must take into consideration that such an announcement would cause great panic, as there is of course nowhere near enough KI to go around. Stocks are just about sold out already, to the early responders. Therefore, it's logical that the government will be reluctant to make such an announcement. And their track record of advising the public re toxins is abysmal. > > www.susunweed.com/Article_Surviving_Radiation.htm > > Protocol for nuclear contamination [and everyday radiation] > Thursday, March 17, 2011 by: Mark Sircus., AC, OMD > http://news-now.org/2011/03/protocol-for-nuclear-contamination-iodine-glutathion\ e-chelation-clay-baking-soda > > Ingrid Naiman writes: [i added an excerpt here, as the point that the various radioactive materials are absorbed by our bodies as if they were specific nutrients is excellent. Potassium ioide is not a radiation panacea.] http://www.ingridnaiman.com/subscription_lists/chronological_index.html > There are a lot of different radioactive materials and each has similarities to organic substances normally used by the body. An example that is sometimes used is that > strontium-90 is absorbed by bones and teeth because the body treats it as > if it were calcium. One theory advanced by those in the holistic health > world is that the body will not absorb strontium if it has enough calcium. > Moreover, the strontium will be replaced by calcium if the body is supplied > with a proper form of calcium. This is why we should not panic and buy the > first substance recommended for radioactivity but rather wait to see what > is being released. > Meanwhile, there is corroborative material from the allopathic world of > medicine in the sense that patients who are being treated with radioactive > substances are advised to forego natural forms of that substance for some > period following treatment. .... > At the moment, we are not 100% certain about which cesium has been released > but we do know that the body " views " cesium as it would potassium. So, > unlike iodine which accumulates in the thyroid, cesium accumulates mainly > in the reproductive organs and muscles and secondarily in the liver and > kidneys and thence into the blood and hence everywhere else in the body. Of > all the known agents for addressing cesium, green sea vegetables are > regarded as the most effective. The required dosage is not all that great: > 2-3 ounces a week. During times of direct exposure, the dosage can be > increased to double or even triple the preventative amount. .... > > http://drdavidbrownstein.blogspot.com/ He is posting updates. His " answer " is iodine. But remember that iodine only helps with one of the radioactive substances. > > Radiation Therapies > Carolyn Dean MD ND | Wednesday, March 16, 2011 > http://drcarolyndean.com/2011/03/radiation-therapies/?utm_source=0157-1 & utm_medi\ um=Email > > > Sites to check re. radiation levels in USA: > www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/ / > RadiationNetwork.com > www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Below the sale for the book it gives a good rundown, sodium bicarbonate for radiation. It also deals with the radioactive particulate of uranium and others. http://publications.imva.info/index.php/e-books/sodium-bicarbonate-rich-man-s-po\ or-man-s-cancer-treatment-e-book.html ~ Snoshoe > > Here's a link that might be useful also: > http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/forum/topics/seaweed-protection-from > > ~ Snoshoe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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