Re: What stage of EHS am I in?

[Guest guest]

I'm not following what these groups are? I might have missed something. Loni

From: C.a.b. <superdrove@...>

Subject: YIKES! Dual Polarization Radar Here

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 5:33 AM

 

During the early to mid-1990s the National Weather Service (NWS)

installed a network of powerful Doppler radars across the United

States.  Known as the NEXRAD or WSR-88D radars, which were hailed as a

huge advance for weather prediction and warning capabilities across the

U.S. 

Check out the NEXRAD map of the U..S. showing that the U.S. Is now

blanketed with weather radar.   Looks like central and southern Oregon are

the last frontier. Go here:

http://www.roc.noaa.gov/WSR88D/Maps.aspx

Go here for the pinpoint map:

http://radar.weather.gov/

Go here to see a list of all the U.S. NEXRAD locations:

http://www.roc.noaa.gov/WSR88D/Program/NetworkSites.aspx

But there is very very bad news for me.  On September 30, 2011 the new Dual

Polarization Weather Radar that will scan the Northwest Washington Coast will be

turned on and put me in the middle of it's evil range.  It is the first in the

country to have Dual Polarization, which

means

that

it

will

send

and receive microwaves with both

horizontal and vertical orientations, making it twice as lethal as its

predecessors.  It will also be the first and only National

Weather Service radar in the U.S. to have a zero degree elevation

angle scanning that will increase its offshore range and low-level coverage.

Eventually all National Weather Service radars will be

polarized. 

It took 15 years of campaigning to get the radar.  In late 2009, Senator

Cantwell and her allies on the Washington

congressional delegation were able to secure full funding for the radar.  In

addition, environmental assessments were made of

the finalist locations to insure minimal impact to people or

wildlife. 

The final report concluded that additional radar coverage

would " improve public safety and reduce the negative economic

consequences from hazardous weather. "   

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/%7Ecliff/Langleyradar.html

Nowhere in this report or in anyone's assessment or consideration of this radar,

was any mention or concern voiced over the health consequences to people of

scanning radar over Seattle, Tacoma and the entire Olympic Peninsula 24/7.

Add this radar exposure to other radar sites such as airport radar, radar on

ships docked offshore, and more weather radar in various locations.  Now add

this microwave soup to several gigantic radio towers around these cities, plus

cell towers about ever 2 to 6 blocks, plus power substations, and a huge

underground and above ground power grid, plus Wi-Fi, wireless routers, smart

meters and then look above at the night sky and see 100's of sateliltes going

overhead. 

This all adds up to a radiation nightmare.  This adds up to the fact that I

need to run for the hills.  The onslaught of microwaves just keeps

proliferating.  I don't know if I will make it out of here alive!

C.

Superdrove

,___

[Guest guest]

> Hi, superdrove. Overnight, last nite, I became completely unable to tolerate a

> computer, so this will be my last e-mail for a while. The computer itself, not

the

> WiFi, which is turned off. I looked down your list, and I get most of the

stuff all

> the way up to Group 7

> Can you heal that at this advanced a stage?

At one point I had symptoms from most of these " groups " (I don't know where

those groups came from -- the classifications seem a bit arbitrary to me...).

I have far fewer symptoms now, so I would say YES, you can recover from

a lot of this.

Marc

 

[Guest guest]

If you read my email again,  I make clear where the classifications came from

and I myself am the one who has come up with the term Stage 5

Electrosensitivity:

Dehydration & Type 3 Diabetes

Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:44 PM

From: " C.a.b. " <superdrove@...>

 

<snip>

In his article  entitled

" 2/07/2005 - German Doctors unite on RF health effects "

http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20050722_bamberg.asp

(Which was also posted to this group on March 10, 2007)

********************************************************************************

Symptoms experienced by people exposed to microwaves are described and are

grouped by power flux density. Must see associated graphs.

* The symptom groups are defined as follows:

Group 1: No symptoms

Group 2: Sleep disturbance, tiredness, depressive mood

Group 3: Headaches, restlessness, dazed state, irritability, disturbance of

concentration, forgetfulness, learning difficulties, difficulty finding words.

Group 4: Frequent infections, sinusitis, lymph node swellings, joint and limb

pains, nerve and soft tissue pains, numbness or tingling, allergies

Group 5: Tinnitus, hearing loss, sudden hearing loss, giddiness, impaired

balance, visual disturbances, eye inflammation, dry eyes

Group 6: Tachycardia, episodic hypertension, collapse

Group 7: Other symptoms (Hormonal disturbances, thyroid disease, night sweats,

frequent urge to urinate, weight increase, nausea, loss of appetite, nose

bleeds, skin complaints, tumors, diabetes)

********************************************************************************

Group 7 experiences constant urination, a symptom of Type 3 Diabetes.  From this

list I like to refer to people who have experienced Group 1-7 symptoms as kind

of like being Stage 5 EMR Disease.  I tell people that I have Stage 5 Cell Tower

Illness or Stage 5 Electrosensitivity, because I have gone through most all of

the symptoms experienced by Group 1 thru 7, and more!!

********************************************************************************

So take a look at the symptoms list and mark off the ones you have or have had

to get an idea of how advanced your EMR disease is.

C.

Superdrove

,___

[Guest guest]

Elysia,

This is going to be very long, but I want to get some info and solicited advice

to you before you loose computer contact.  This is about your brain and vision

symptoms, and a discussion about shielding yourself.  I also give a list of

known symptoms of microwave exposure.

Remember a few months ago I told you to get some shielding fabrics? 

Yes, I am one of those people who have to wear shielding fabrics.  When I sit

in front of the computer, in order to shield myself from cell tower radiation

coming into the apartment, (through my wall and floor shielding) I have to put

on a baseball cap or wide brim hat and then throw a piece of shielding screen

fabric mesh material over my head and ground it to the outlet.  Then I have to

cover my body with shielding fabric, making sure it does not make contact with

my skin. And I ground that.  

But, in order for you to shield yourself from the actual computer itself, you

would have to know what you are reacting to -- the electro or the magnetic. 

Supposedly, the shielding fabrics will block out the electro if the fabric is

grounded, but if it is the magnetic, maybe you will have to get some magnetic

shielding material and shield the computer itself.  Are you referring to a

laptop, a tower or a desktop computer? 

To start with, I know you want to know what is causing your pain so you will

know how to best treat it.  But, the fact is, there is still a lot that doctors

and scientists don't know about what is actually going on.   From what they do

know, it appears there are a lot of things going on at once.   To read about

the studies that have been done, you can go on the web and just type in Health

Effects of Wireless and you will get more information than you can read. 

Wireless is not only hurting us, the radiation is hurting animals, birds, bees

and fish. 

Referring to your brain and mini seizures, one article I read states:

" Many studies have looked at the effects of EMF's on the body.  Few have

focused on their effects on the brain. Electromagnetic fields from cell phones

excite the brain cortex…which poses potential implications for individuals

with epilepsy, and other neurological conditions. "   And one symptom of exposure

is " Brain-degenerative diseases like epilepsy and Alzheimer.

A symptom of wireless radiation is that is can cause brain and nerve

inflammation, and severe EEG, and EKG changes, It is no wonder you are having

what feels like brain and cranial nerve damage.  If cell phones can cause brain

tumors, obviously the microwaves are causing severe inflammation in the brain. 

You should be thankful you can feel what is going on because your body is

warning you that you are under attack.  Think of the people who get brain

tumors and were not aware of a problem beforehand.

You may have a tendency for epilepsy or a neurological condition to begin with

and the microwaves are exciting your brain cortex.  Your brain may actually be

inflamed from the exposure.  The best thing you can do is to try and get some

relief from the exposure. I discussed with you before about getting shielding

fabrics.  If you cannot get away from the exposure, try to block it with

shielding or shielding fabrics. 

You said you started out reacting to Smart Meters and then became sensitive to

EMF's in your computer.   So to reduce your sensitivity to EMF's in your

computer, you need to eliminate your exposure to microwaves and try to heal the

inflammation caused by it.  If you can get the bran and body inflammation down

then the EMF sensitivity will not be as bad.  Just my 2 cents.

I do not understand what is causing your vision loss. I do not know your history

and how much damage you have sustained and for how long, but it could be

possible that a tumor is causing your vision loss, or brain demyelination, or

maybe it is just a hyper-reaction to the pain and inflammation of the

microwaves.  I am no doctor.

I know that when I was at my worst, I was having serious eye pain and pressure

which felt like my eyes were going to explode.  Eye pain is a common symptom of

exposure.  But vision loss could mean many things.  I believe that I developed

a lot of brain demyleination from a 10-year exposure to cell tower radiation. 

My extensive brain demyleination has been documented by MRI.  If you have brain

demyleination, perhaps the vision loss is being caused by that, similar to an

Optic Neuritis attack that Mulitple Sclerosis patients often experience.  Or

perhaps the inflammation and swelling of optic nerves is causing it.  Just my

guess.  But my guess is probably as good as any mainstream doctor's guess would

probably be.

********************************************************************************\

**********************

Thermal Effects of microwaves on the body have been documented, but a study done

this year shows non-thermal effects as well:

http://www.microwavenews.com/Volkow.html

Using positron emission tomography (PET), the NIH-BNL researchers have shown

that radiation from a 50-minute cell phone exposure can speed up glucose

metabolism (in the brain), an established measure of brain activity.

The still dominant view among health and safety committees is that if RF and

microwave radiation does not cause bulk heating, there will be no biological

effects. Yet, the changes in brain metabolism observed by the Volkow group do

not appear to have been caused by a temperature rise.

********************************************************************************\

**********************

As you already know, your body is mostly water with electrolytes in it, making

it a good, conductor, so your body has voltage and the cells vibrate with their

own frequency. Cells in the brain communicate electromagnetically.  But some

wireless devices use a pulsed frequency of 17.6 Hz when it is known to interfere

with the brains’ beta rhythm.  The microwave radiation is jamming your bodies

frequency with pulsing frequencies that mimic your brain and body's frequency,

confusing your body's signals and responses.

The body tissues most affected by electromagnetic fields are reproductive,

breast, endocrine, and neurological tissues. Our brain is composed of

neurological tissues.

I read that microwaves also cause changes in neurotransmitters (which affect

motivation and pain perception) and damage to eyes when used with commonly used

glaucoma medications. 

********************************************************************************\

**********************

Go to this you tube site to see what Dr. Sinatra's take on it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs2nF1LLt0Y

Basically, Dr. Sinatra is saying that our cells shut down trying to keep the

radiation from wireless out.  So while the cells don't allow the wireless to

come in, they don't allow hormones, vitamins, and minerals to come in either. 

And they don't allow waste products out.  When the waste products stay in, the

cells age prematurely.  When that happens there is an influx of bacteria and

microbes into the cell and the voltage of the cell goes down and we get sick.

********************************************************************************\

************

And I will summarize some information from Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt's site:

Just living in a community with cell phone reception destroys crucial central

signaling pathways in your cells.

Poor cellular communication and the dysfunctional autonomic nervous system that

results are known precursors to cancer and other types of chronic illnesses.

A German study very clearly demonstrates these effects from cell phone

radiation. For the first five years of exposure to a community cell phone tower,

there is no increased cancer risk.

After five years, there is a sharp rise. At the end of ten years, there is a

three to five-fold increase in cancer rates.

********************************************************************************\

************

Here are a few quotes just to get you warmed up:

http://prd34.blogspot.com/2007_03_04_archive.html

Exposure to long-term microwave radiation has been shown to change a particular

form of white blood cell (lymphocyte) ratio - known as the T-helper/T-suppressor

(T4/T8) cell ratio - from normal to abnormal.

http://prd34.blogspot.com/2007_03_04_archive.html

" Microwave exposure has been shown to induce a decrease in levels of the brain

hormone norepinephrine.  This hormone is essential for control of the autonomic

nervous system, and lack of it can lead to autonomic nervous system disorders.

For example, if the autonomic nervous system is not working properly, the body

will have trouble regulating its temperature - i.e. cooling itself when it

Microwave radiation produces hyperthermia. The mammalian thermoregulatory system

defends against changes in temperature by mobilizing diverse control mechanisms.

Neurotransmitters play a major role in eliciting thermoregulatory responses.

An abnormal decrease in norepinephrine levels has also been connected to

short-term memory disturbances (Clinton et al 2006),

Research in animals indicates that the prefrontal cortex is very sensitive to

its neurochemical environment and that small changes in catecholamine modulation

of prefrontal cortex cells can have profound effects on the ability of the

prefrontal cortex to guide behavior.

Some known biomedical effects of wireless radiation:

•    disturbs all known intrinsic rhythms (EEG, heart rate variability,

breathing pattern, 24 hr meridian activity, bowel movements, detoxification,

etc),

•    blocks blood-brain and gut barrier (leaky gut syndrome) in stuck-open

position leading to neurological illness (Parkinson, MS and ALS, autism,etc.),

•    causes or aggravates food and environmental allergies

•    has a synergistic effect with other fields,

•    increases mold growth and mycotoxin production in homes

•    Lowered immune status (decreased IL-10, increased IL-1, IL-6,

decreased NK cell activity)

•    increases cancer rate 3 fold in 10 years after cell phone

radiation   is brought into a community - after a 5 year incubation period

•    severe EEG, HRV and EKG changes

•    delayed and disturbed brain development in infants

•    decreased melatonin and hormone production (testosterone)

•    open blood brain barrier with increased toxicity, affects endothelial

cells in gut mucosa and endothelium (dysfunctional)

•    responsible for illness and death of trees

•    Increases growth, neurotoxin production, virulence of viruses, mold,

yeast, Lyme spirochetes and other microorganisms

What are the other known effects of EMFs – from all sources – to your

health?

Solid evidence reveals these changes occur in your body as a result of exposure

to electromagnetic fields:

    * Decreased pineal gland function with lowered melatonin production

    * Lowered thyroid hormones TSH, T3, and T4

    * Reduced production of testosterone

    * Increased mold growth and mycotoxin production in your home

    * Hastened growth and virulence of viruses, mold, yeast, Lyme

spirochetes, and other biotoxins within your body

    * Impaired immune status (decreased IL-10, increased IL-1, IL-6,

decreased NK cell activity)

And because of these dangerous changes from the effects of EMFs, there is

scientific evidence of increases in…

    * Leukemia and other cancers, including breast cancer

    * Insomnia and sleep disturbances

    * Chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia

    * Hormone imbalance and deficiencies in women and men

    * Brain fog, headaches, and short term memory loss

    * Delayed and disturbed brain development in infants

    * Autism and other neurological developmental disorders in children

    * Parkinson’s, multiple sclerosis, and motoneuron disease (ALS) in

adults

    * Food and environmental allergies and asthma

    * Cardiovascular disease

    * Diabetes

The good news is… You’ll see improvement in all physical areas when you make

changes to your homes’ and offices’ electromagnetic fields. "

********************************************************************************\

*********************

Hope some of this was hellpful.

C.

Superdrove

From: Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...>

Subject: What stage of EHS am I in?

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 4:52 PM

 

Hi, superdrove. Overnight, last nite, I became completely unable to tolerate a

computer, so this will be my last e-mail for a while. The computer itself, not

the WiFi, which is turned off. I looked down your list, and I get most of the

stuff all the way up to Group 7, minus the nose bleeds & tumors. I don't pee a

lot, ut am lately getting frequent URGE to pee, so maybe that's a sign. What can

be done about this? The worst for me is the nervous system damage. Can you heal

that at this advanced a stage?

Love & blessings,

Elysia

[Guest guest]

Caleb,

Your information is excellent. The only thing i would add is that vision can and

often is affected by the thryoid. While it is true that because the eyes are

mostly liquid, micro wave radiation can and does cause vision problems; thryroid

issues are one of the most over looked areas of vision problems. In her case,

there are many things co-happening, which are pushng the symptoms to the severe

category. When the immune system, specifically, the thyroid and adrenal glands

are left out of the healing equation, it is leaving out- the body's number one

defense system. Providing adequate support to the body's main defense system AND

shielding are both equal number one priority, in my book.

Blessings and thank you for your wonderful info.

Lizzie

From: superdrove@...

Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:10:26 -0700

Subject: Re: What stage of EHS am I in?

Elysia,

This is going to be very long, but I want to get some info and solicited advice

to you before you loose computer contact. This is about your brain and vision

symptoms, and a discussion about shielding yourself. I also give a list of

known symptoms of microwave exposure.

Remember a few months ago I told you to get some shielding fabrics?

Yes, I am one of those people who have to wear shielding fabrics. When I sit in

front of the computer, in order to shield myself from cell tower radiation

coming into the apartment, (through my wall and floor shielding) I have to put

on a baseball cap or wide brim hat and then throw a piece of shielding screen

fabric mesh material over my head and ground it to the outlet. Then I have to

cover my body with shielding fabric, making sure it does not make contact with

my skin. And I ground that.

But, in order for you to shield yourself from the actual computer itself, you

would have to know what you are reacting to -- the electro or the magnetic.

Supposedly, the shielding fabrics will block out the electro if the fabric is

grounded, but if it is the magnetic, maybe you will have to get some magnetic

shielding material and shield the computer itself. Are you referring to a

laptop, a tower or a desktop computer?

To start with, I know you want to know what is causing your pain so you will

know how to best treat it. But, the fact is, there is still a lot that doctors

and scientists don't know about what is actually going on. From what they do

know, it appears there are a lot of things going on at once. To read about the

studies that have been done, you can go on the web and just type in Health

Effects of Wireless and you will get more information than you can read.

Wireless is not only hurting us, the radiation is hurting animals, birds, bees

and fish.

Referring to your brain and mini seizures, one article I read states:

" Many studies have looked at the effects of EMF's on the body. Few have focused

on their effects on the brain. Electromagnetic fields from cell phones excite

the brain cortex…which poses potential implications for individuals with

epilepsy, and other neurological conditions. " And one symptom of exposure is

" Brain-degenerative diseases like epilepsy and Alzheimer.

A symptom of wireless radiation is that is can cause brain and nerve

inflammation, and severe EEG, and EKG changes, It is no wonder you are having

what feels like brain and cranial nerve damage. If cell phones can cause brain

tumors, obviously the microwaves are causing severe inflammation in the brain.

You should be thankful you can feel what is going on because your body is

warning you that you are under attack. Think of the people who get brain tumors

and were not aware of a problem beforehand.

You may have a tendency for epilepsy or a neurological condition to begin with

and the microwaves are exciting your brain cortex. Your brain may actually be

inflamed from the exposure. The best thing you can do is to try and get some

relief from the exposure. I discussed with you before about getting shielding

fabrics. If you cannot get away from the exposure, try to block it with

shielding or shielding fabrics.

You said you started out reacting to Smart Meters and then became sensitive to

EMF's in your computer. So to reduce your sensitivity to EMF's in your

computer, you need to eliminate your exposure to microwaves and try to heal the

inflammation caused by it. If you can get the bran and body inflammation down

then the EMF sensitivity will not be as bad. Just my 2 cents.

I do not understand what is causing your vision loss. I do not know your history

and how much damage you have sustained and for how long, but it could be

possible that a tumor is causing your vision loss, or brain demyelination, or

maybe it is just a hyper-reaction to the pain and inflammation of the

microwaves. I am no doctor.

I know that when I was at my worst, I was having serious eye pain and pressure

which felt like my eyes were going to explode. Eye pain is a common symptom of

exposure. But vision loss could mean many things. I believe that I developed a

lot of brain demyleination from a 10-year exposure to cell tower radiation. My

extensive brain demyleination has been documented by MRI. If you have brain

demyleination, perhaps the vision loss is being caused by that, similar to an

Optic Neuritis attack that Mulitple Sclerosis patients often experience. Or

perhaps the inflammation and swelling of optic nerves is causing it. Just my

guess. But my guess is probably as good as any mainstream doctor's guess would

probably be.

********************************************************************************\

**********************

Thermal Effects of microwaves on the body have been documented, but a study done

this year shows non-thermal effects as well:

http://www.microwavenews.com/Volkow.html

Using positron emission tomography (PET), the NIH-BNL researchers have shown

that radiation from a 50-minute cell phone exposure can speed up glucose

metabolism (in the brain), an established measure of brain activity.

The still dominant view among health and safety committees is that if RF and

microwave radiation does not cause bulk heating, there will be no biological

effects. Yet, the changes in brain metabolism observed by the Volkow group do

not appear to have been caused by a temperature rise.

********************************************************************************\

**********************

As you already know, your body is mostly water with electrolytes in it, making

it a good, conductor, so your body has voltage and the cells vibrate with their

own frequency. Cells in the brain communicate electromagnetically. But some

wireless devices use a pulsed frequency of 17.6 Hz when it is known to interfere

with the brains’ beta rhythm. The microwave radiation is jamming your bodies

frequency with pulsing frequencies that mimic your brain and body's frequency,

confusing your body's signals and responses.

The body tissues most affected by electromagnetic fields are reproductive,

breast, endocrine, and neurological tissues. Our brain is composed of

neurological tissues.

I read that microwaves also cause changes in neurotransmitters (which affect

motivation and pain perception) and damage to eyes when used with commonly used

glaucoma medications.

********************************************************************************\

**********************

Go to this you tube site to see what Dr. Sinatra's take on it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs2nF1LLt0Y

Basically, Dr. Sinatra is saying that our cells shut down trying to keep the

radiation from wireless out. So while the cells don't allow the wireless to

come in, they don't allow hormones, vitamins, and minerals to come in either.

And they don't allow waste products out. When the waste products stay in, the

cells age prematurely. When that happens there is an influx of bacteria and

microbes into the cell and the voltage of the cell goes down and we get sick.

********************************************************************************\

************

And I will summarize some information from Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt's site:

Just living in a community with cell phone reception destroys crucial central

signaling pathways in your cells.

Poor cellular communication and the dysfunctional autonomic nervous system that

results are known precursors to cancer and other types of chronic illnesses.

A German study very clearly demonstrates these effects from cell phone

radiation. For the first five years of exposure to a community cell phone tower,

there is no increased cancer risk.

After five years, there is a sharp rise. At the end of ten years, there is a

three to five-fold increase in cancer rates.

********************************************************************************\

************

Here are a few quotes just to get you warmed up:

http://prd34.blogspot.com/2007_03_04_archive.html

Exposure to long-term microwave radiation has been shown to change a particular

form of white blood cell (lymphocyte) ratio - known as the T-helper/T-suppressor

(T4/T8) cell ratio - from normal to abnormal.

http://prd34.blogspot.com/2007_03_04_archive.html

" Microwave exposure has been shown to induce a decrease in levels of the brain

hormone norepinephrine. This hormone is essential for control of the autonomic

nervous system, and lack of it can lead to autonomic nervous system disorders.

For example, if the autonomic nervous system is not working properly, the body

will have trouble regulating its temperature - i.e. cooling itself when it

Microwave radiation produces hyperthermia. The mammalian thermoregulatory system

defends against changes in temperature by mobilizing diverse control mechanisms.

Neurotransmitters play a major role in eliciting thermoregulatory responses.

An abnormal decrease in norepinephrine levels has also been connected to

short-term memory disturbances (Clinton et al 2006),

Research in animals indicates that the prefrontal cortex is very sensitive to

its neurochemical environment and that small changes in catecholamine modulation

of prefrontal cortex cells can have profound effects on the ability of the

prefrontal cortex to guide behavior.

Some known biomedical effects of wireless radiation:

• disturbs all known intrinsic rhythms (EEG, heart rate variability,

breathing pattern, 24 hr meridian activity, bowel movements, detoxification,

etc),

• blocks blood-brain and gut barrier (leaky gut syndrome) in stuck-open

position leading to neurological illness (Parkinson, MS and ALS, autism,etc.),

• causes or aggravates food and environmental allergies

• has a synergistic effect with other fields,

• increases mold growth and mycotoxin production in homes

• Lowered immune status (decreased IL-10, increased IL-1, IL-6, decreased NK

cell activity)

• increases cancer rate 3 fold in 10 years after cell phone radiation is

brought into a community - after a 5 year incubation period

• severe EEG, HRV and EKG changes

• delayed and disturbed brain development in infants

• decreased melatonin and hormone production (testosterone)

• open blood brain barrier with increased toxicity, affects endothelial cells

in gut mucosa and endothelium (dysfunctional)

• responsible for illness and death of trees

• Increases growth, neurotoxin production, virulence of viruses, mold, yeast,

Lyme spirochetes and other microorganisms

What are the other known effects of EMFs – from all sources – to your health?

Solid evidence reveals these changes occur in your body as a result of exposure

to electromagnetic fields:

* Decreased pineal gland function with lowered melatonin production

* Lowered thyroid hormones TSH, T3, and T4

* Reduced production of testosterone

* Increased mold growth and mycotoxin production in your home

* Hastened growth and virulence of viruses, mold, yeast, Lyme spirochetes,

and other biotoxins within your body

* Impaired immune status (decreased IL-10, increased IL-1, IL-6, decreased

NK cell activity)

And because of these dangerous changes from the effects of EMFs, there is

scientific evidence of increases in…

* Leukemia and other cancers, including breast cancer

* Insomnia and sleep disturbances

* Chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia

* Hormone imbalance and deficiencies in women and men

* Brain fog, headaches, and short term memory loss

* Delayed and disturbed brain development in infants

* Autism and other neurological developmental disorders in children

* Parkinson’s, multiple sclerosis, and motoneuron disease (ALS) in adults

* Food and environmental allergies and asthma

* Cardiovascular disease

* Diabetes

The good news is… You’ll see improvement in all physical areas when you make

changes to your homes’ and offices’ electromagnetic fields. "

********************************************************************************\

*********************

Hope some of this was hellpful.

C.

Superdrove

From: Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...>

Subject: What stage of EHS am I in?

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 4:52 PM

Hi, superdrove. Overnight, last nite, I became completely unable to tolerate a

computer, so this will be my last e-mail for a while. The computer itself, not

the WiFi, which is turned off. I looked down your list, and I get most of the

stuff all the way up to Group 7, minus the nose bleeds & tumors. I don't pee a

lot, ut am lately getting frequent URGE to pee, so maybe that's a sign. What can

be done about this? The worst for me is the nervous system damage. Can you heal

that at this advanced a stage?

Love & blessings,

Elysia

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You should see a physician to rule out diabetes or other serious conditions if

you experience frequent thirst and urination problems. Also, you mentioned

having eye problems. A review from last year of over 40 studies on non-thermal

effects of emfs on the eye concluded that:

" Cataracts are a leading cause of vision impairment worldwide.44,45 Although the

ability of high-power microwaves to induce cataracts has been well established,

the studies described above demonstrate that low-power microwave radiation also

has the potential to be cataractogenic. Besides actual loss of lens

transparency, the effects of microwaves on cell proliferation and apoptosis,

GJIC, cellular genetic toxicology and the cellular stress response support the

hypothesis that microwave exposure produces non-thermal effects at the cellular

and molecular levels that may result in damage to lens tissues and LECs. If this

is the case, current microwave exposure limits may be inadequate. "

See:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20819410

I too experienced an increased urge to urinate since I became electrosensitive.

Since I started taking a drug called Lyrica, which a neurologist suggested may

help ease some of the nervous agitation associated with the electrosensitivity,

the urination problem has eased. I used to have to get up in the middle of the

night once or twice to urinate when the problem surfaced, which never happened

before I became electrosensitive. Since taking Lyrica this has mostly stopped.

The drug is usually prescribed for anxiety or depression, and can have side

effects, though I didn't notice any. Of course, there is no guarantee that it

will have the exact same effect for everyone.

.

>

>

> From: C.a.b. <superdrove@...>

> Subject: YIKES! Dual Polarization Radar Here

>

> Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 5:33 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> During the early to mid-1990s the National Weather Service (NWS)

> installed a network of powerful Doppler radars across the United

> States.  Known as the NEXRAD or WSR-88D radars, which were hailed as a

> huge advance for weather prediction and warning capabilities across the

> U.S. 

>

> Check out the NEXRAD map of the U..S. showing that the U.S. Is now

> blanketed with weather radar.   Looks like central and southern Oregon are

> the last frontier. Go here:

>

> http://www.roc.noaa.gov/WSR88D/Maps.aspx

>

> Go here for the pinpoint map:

>

> http://radar.weather.gov/

>

> Go here to see a list of all the U.S. NEXRAD locations:

>

> http://www.roc.noaa.gov/WSR88D/Program/NetworkSites.aspx

>

> But there is very very bad news for me.  On September 30, 2011 the new Dual

Polarization Weather Radar that will scan the Northwest Washington Coast will be

turned on and put me in the middle of it's evil range.  It is the first in the

country to have Dual Polarization, which

> means

> that

> it

> will

> send

> and receive microwaves with both

> horizontal and vertical orientations, making it twice as lethal as its

predecessors.  It will also be the first and only National

> Weather Service radar in the U.S. to have a zero degree elevation

> angle scanning that will increase its offshore range and low-level coverage.

Eventually all National Weather Service radars will be

> polarized. 

>

> It took 15 years of campaigning to get the radar.  In late 2009, Senator

Cantwell and her allies on the Washington

> congressional delegation were able to secure full funding for the radar.  In

addition, environmental assessments were made of

> the finalist locations to insure minimal impact to people or

> wildlife. 

> The final report concluded that additional radar coverage

> would " improve public safety and reduce the negative economic

> consequences from hazardous weather. "   

> http://www.atmos.washington.edu/%7Ecliff/Langleyradar.html

>

> Nowhere in this report or in anyone's assessment or consideration of this

radar, was any mention or concern voiced over the health consequences to people

of scanning radar over Seattle, Tacoma and the entire Olympic Peninsula 24/7.

>

> Add this radar exposure to other radar sites such as airport radar, radar on

ships docked offshore, and more weather radar in various locations.  Now add

this microwave soup to several gigantic radio towers around these cities, plus

cell towers about ever 2 to 6 blocks, plus power substations, and a huge

underground and above ground power grid, plus Wi-Fi, wireless routers, smart

meters and then look above at the night sky and see 100's of sateliltes going

overhead. 

>

> This all adds up to a radiation nightmare.  This adds up to the fact that I

need to run for the hills.  The onslaught of microwaves just keeps

proliferating.  I don't know if I will make it out of here alive!

>

> C.

> Superdrove

>

> ,___

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Elysia,

<Can you heal that at this advanced a stage?>

I was having stage 7 symptoms (except for tumors) way back in the early 1970s. 

It is true I was very ill for a very long time but I am now not nearly as

bothered

by emfs as I was even 2 years ago.  I am in the best health I have had my entire

life!  Don't allow this email about stages to daunt you, Elysia.  I had almost

every

symptom mentioned in this " stages of EHS " email; some way back as early as the

1950s.  You need to concentrate on healing your immune system and ion-channels.

This information is out there.  It is easy to be confused by how to go about it,

but

at some point, you just have to settle on a place to begin and go there. 

Marc and I both were once where you are now.  We had to decide what sounded

promising and try it.  We had to learn by trial and error.  (If you doubt this,

go back

to the beginning of the forum and follow the posts.)  But, here is the thing....

When someone here says something helped them, be sure you are doing what they

said helped them and not something similar.  I see people always trying to do

their

own spin on someone else's therapies.  If you are truly going to try

electrolytes, try

electrolytes that somebody is saying helps or cures them, not just some

electrolytes

that you bought and have on hand. 

Once Marc and I had a disagreement about whether vitamin D helped ESsers or

not.  Months went by.  Finally we found out we were talking apples and oranges. 

I was saying natural D3 helped and Marc was taking D2.  You cannot try some

thing similar and expect the same results.  Vitamin D2 is not vitamin D3.    

Another thing I see people doing is trying something for a day or 2 and getting

symptoms and quitting.  If I had quit the supplements I take (that now help

me)on

day 1 or even day 15, I would still be ill.  Truth is, nothing I took came

without

symptoms at first.  It was not unusual for me to work for a month to tweak a

supplement in order to tolerate it.  Keep a notebook.  Keep scrupulous notes.

Work to tolerate supplements by repacking them in very small doses.  If you have

tried and tried and it makes you worse in a month, give up and move on.  But at

least

give things an honest try. 

It is true that for some nutrients you will need other supportive nutrients. 

So, not

all nutrients are going to work right off for you.  However, even tho this is

true, you

should strive to add only one or 2 nutrients at a time, keeping notes as to what

you

experience.  Likewise, try only one therapy at a time.  Otherwise, you will be

very

confused and not know what is doing or causing what.  Your notes will also help

you

find out what nutrients are missing.  When suddenly a nutrient works one day

much

better than it did the last, you can look at what you ate that day and say,

maybe it was

that added vitamin C from orange juice, etc....  If you keep good notes as to

what you

eat, you will be able to discern exactly what the supportive nutrient was.  

Rome wasn't built in a day and you will not be helped in one either.  Realize

that there

are no fast fixes.  Watch for the very small improvements.  Occasionally you

will be on

the verge of a break thru and suddenly crash.  Realize these things happen. 

Pick yourself

back up and start again or just hang on.  Never give up, never give up, never

give up.

You can do it, Elysia.  Choose that thing you feel best about and go there.  If

it doesn't

work, go to plan B. 

Bless you,

Diane

________________________________

[Guest guest]

This is a wonderful beautiful post!

VEry very well spoken.

Lizzie

From: evie15422@...

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:53:45 -0700

Subject: Re: What stage of EHS am I in?

Hi, Elysia,

<Can you heal that at this advanced a stage?>

I was having stage 7 symptoms (except for tumors) way back in the early 1970s.

It is true I was very ill for a very long time but I am now not nearly as

bothered

by emfs as I was even 2 years ago. I am in the best health I have had my entire

life! Don't allow this email about stages to daunt you, Elysia. I had almost

every

symptom mentioned in this " stages of EHS " email; some way back as early as the

1950s. You need to concentrate on healing your immune system and ion-channels.

This information is out there. It is easy to be confused by how to go about it,

but

at some point, you just have to settle on a place to begin and go there.

Marc and I both were once where you are now. We had to decide what sounded

promising and try it. We had to learn by trial and error. (If you doubt this,

go back

to the beginning of the forum and follow the posts.) But, here is the thing....

When someone here says something helped them, be sure you are doing what they

said helped them and not something similar. I see people always trying to do

their

own spin on someone else's therapies. If you are truly going to try

electrolytes, try

electrolytes that somebody is saying helps or cures them, not just some

electrolytes

that you bought and have on hand.

Once Marc and I had a disagreement about whether vitamin D helped ESsers or

not. Months went by. Finally we found out we were talking apples and oranges.

I was saying natural D3 helped and Marc was taking D2. You cannot try some

thing similar and expect the same results. Vitamin D2 is not vitamin D3.

Another thing I see people doing is trying something for a day or 2 and getting

symptoms and quitting. If I had quit the supplements I take (that now help

me)on

day 1 or even day 15, I would still be ill. Truth is, nothing I took came

without

symptoms at first. It was not unusual for me to work for a month to tweak a

supplement in order to tolerate it. Keep a notebook. Keep scrupulous notes.

Work to tolerate supplements by repacking them in very small doses. If you have

tried and tried and it makes you worse in a month, give up and move on. But at

least

give things an honest try.

It is true that for some nutrients you will need other supportive nutrients.

So, not

all nutrients are going to work right off for you. However, even tho this is

true, you

should strive to add only one or 2 nutrients at a time, keeping notes as to what

you

experience. Likewise, try only one therapy at a time. Otherwise, you will be

very

confused and not know what is doing or causing what. Your notes will also help

you

find out what nutrients are missing. When suddenly a nutrient works one day

much

better than it did the last, you can look at what you ate that day and say,

maybe it was

that added vitamin C from orange juice, etc.... If you keep good notes as to

what you

eat, you will be able to discern exactly what the supportive nutrient was.

Rome wasn't built in a day and you will not be helped in one either. Realize

that there

are no fast fixes. Watch for the very small improvements. Occasionally you

will be on

the verge of a break thru and suddenly crash. Realize these things happen.

Pick yourself

back up and start again or just hang on. Never give up, never give up, never

give up.

You can do it, Elysia. Choose that thing you feel best about and go there. If

it doesn't

work, go to plan B.

Bless you,

Diane

________________________________

[Guest guest]

I agree with Lizzie!  thanks Diane!  my experiences long term have been the

same with many supplements and things I've done...often somewhat worse

first...detox kicking in I guess...

Re: What stage of EHS am I in?

Hi, Elysia,

& lt;Can you heal that at this advanced a stage? & gt;

I was having stage 7 symptoms (except for tumors) way back in the early 1970s.

It is true I was very ill for a very long time but I am now not nearly as

bothered

by emfs as I was even 2 years ago. I am in the best health I have had my entire

life! Don't allow this email about stages to daunt you, Elysia. I had almost

every

symptom mentioned in this " stages of EHS " email; some way back as early as the

1950s. You need to concentrate on healing your immune system and ion-channels.

This information is out there. It is easy to be confused by how to go about it,

but

at some point, you just have to settle on a place to begin and go there.

Marc and I both were once where you are now. We had to decide what sounded

promising and try it. We had to learn by trial and error. (If you doubt this, go

back

to the beginning of the forum and follow the posts.) But, here is the thing....

When someone here says something helped them, be sure you are doing what they

said helped them and not something similar. I see people always trying to do

their

own spin on someone else's therapies. If you are truly going to try

electrolytes, try

electrolytes that somebody is saying helps or cures them, not just some

electrolytes

that you bought and have on hand.

Once Marc and I had a disagreement about whether vitamin D helped ESsers or

not. Months went by. Finally we found out we were talking apples and oranges.

I was saying natural D3 helped and Marc was taking D2. You cannot try some

thing similar and expect the same results. Vitamin D2 is not vitamin D3.

Another thing I see people doing is trying something for a day or 2 and getting

symptoms and quitting. If I had quit the supplements I take (that now help me)on

day 1 or even day 15, I would still be ill. Truth is, nothing I took came

without

symptoms at first. It was not unusual for me to work for a month to tweak a

supplement in order to tolerate it. Keep a notebook. Keep scrupulous notes.

Work to tolerate supplements by repacking them in very small doses. If you have

tried and tried and it makes you worse in a month, give up and move on. But at

least

give things an honest try.

It is true that for some nutrients you will need other supportive nutrients. So,

not

all nutrients are going to work right off for you. However, even tho this is

true, you

should strive to add only one or 2 nutrients at a time, keeping notes as to what

you

experience. Likewise, try only one therapy at a time. Otherwise, you will be

very

confused and not know what is doing or causing what. Your notes will also help

you

find out what nutrients are missing. When suddenly a nutrient works one day much

better than it did the last, you can look at what you ate that day and say,

maybe it was

that added vitamin C from orange juice, etc.... If you keep good notes as to

what you

eat, you will be able to discern exactly what the supportive nutrient was.

Rome wasn't built in a day and you will not be helped in one either. Realize

that there

are no fast fixes. Watch for the very small improvements. Occasionally you will

be on

the verge of a break thru and suddenly crash. Realize these things happen. Pick

yourself

back up and start again or just hang on. Never give up, never give up, never

give up.

You can do it, Elysia. Choose that thing you feel best about and go there. If it

doesn't

work, go to plan B.

Bless you,

Diane

________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi, Lizzie. Got your message. Thanks so much for sending some help my way. I

really appreciate the op to try stuff. BTW, Could you please call my cell phone

at 207-939-0883 and leave me YOUR PHONE NUMBER so I have a safer way to contact

you than computer? I can't actually turn my cell phone on, so couldn't check

your # on the display screen. I can only check messages left obn the voicemail

via a landline. Gotta go. Can't be on computer much longer. 

Lov e & blessings,Elysia

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: What stage of EHS am I in?

esens

Date: Friday, September 30, 2011, 11:11 PM

 

This is a wonderful beautiful post!

VEry very well spoken.

Lizzie

From: evie15422@...

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:53:45 -0700

Subject: Re: What stage of EHS am I in?

Hi, Elysia,

<Can you heal that at this advanced a stage?>

I was having stage 7 symptoms (except for tumors) way back in the early 1970s.

It is true I was very ill for a very long time but I am now not nearly as

bothered

by emfs as I was even 2 years ago. I am in the best health I have had my entire

life! Don't allow this email about stages to daunt you, Elysia. I had almost

every

symptom mentioned in this " stages of EHS " email; some way back as early as the

1950s. You need to concentrate on healing your immune system and ion-channels.

This information is out there. It is easy to be confused by how to go about it,

but

at some point, you just have to settle on a place to begin and go there.

Marc and I both were once where you are now. We had to decide what sounded

promising and try it. We had to learn by trial and error. (If you doubt this,

go back

to the beginning of the forum and follow the posts.) But, here is the thing....

When someone here says something helped them, be sure you are doing what they

said helped them and not something similar. I see people always trying to do

their

own spin on someone else's therapies. If you are truly going to try

electrolytes, try

electrolytes that somebody is saying helps or cures them, not just some

electrolytes

that you bought and have on hand.

Once Marc and I had a disagreement about whether vitamin D helped ESsers or

not. Months went by. Finally we found out we were talking apples and oranges.

I was saying natural D3 helped and Marc was taking D2. You cannot try some

thing similar and expect the same results. Vitamin D2 is not vitamin D3.

Another thing I see people doing is trying something for a day or 2 and getting

symptoms and quitting. If I had quit the supplements I take (that now help

me)on

day 1 or even day 15, I would still be ill. Truth is, nothing I took came

without

symptoms at first. It was not unusual for me to work for a month to tweak a

supplement in order to tolerate it. Keep a notebook. Keep scrupulous notes.

Work to tolerate supplements by repacking them in very small doses. If you have

tried and tried and it makes you worse in a month, give up and move on. But at

least

give things an honest try.

It is true that for some nutrients you will need other supportive nutrients.

So, not

all nutrients are going to work right off for you. However, even tho this is

true, you

should strive to add only one or 2 nutrients at a time, keeping notes as to what

you

experience. Likewise, try only one therapy at a time. Otherwise, you will be

very

confused and not know what is doing or causing what. Your notes will also help

you

find out what nutrients are missing. When suddenly a nutrient works one day

much

better than it did the last, you can look at what you ate that day and say,

maybe it was

that added vitamin C from orange juice, etc.... If you keep good notes as to

what you

eat, you will be able to discern exactly what the supportive nutrient was.

Rome wasn't built in a day and you will not be helped in one either. Realize

that there

are no fast fixes. Watch for the very small improvements. Occasionally you

will be on

the verge of a break thru and suddenly crash. Realize these things happen.

Pick yourself

back up and start again or just hang on. Never give up, never give up, never

give up.

You can do it, Elysia. Choose that thing you feel best about and go there. If

it doesn't

work, go to plan B.

Bless you,

Diane

________________________________

[Guest guest]

 

I'm not following what these groups are? I might have missed something.

Loni

Loni,

Remember we were talking about Type 3 Diabetes?  I have  resent the original

message below. 

Read the article below to see where these grouping came from:

In his article  entitled " 2/07/2005 - German Doctors Unite on RF Health Effects "

http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20050722_bamberg.asp

(Which was also posted to this group on March 10, 2007)

Symptoms

experienced by people exposed to microwaves are described and grouped by power

flux density.  See associated graphs.

I am the one who decided to take the symptoms listed in these groups and in

other microwave symptom lists and create a group of stages of microwave

illness.  The more of these symotoms a person has, the more advanced stage of

the illness they are in.  When I began experiencing constant urination and Type

3 Diabetes, I knew I was in an advanced stage of cell tower illness, Stage 5,

and I needed to take drastic measures to reduce my exposure and try to heal the

damage.

 Here is the original email:

Dehydration & Type 3 Diabetes

Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:44 PM

From: " C.a.b. " <superdrove@...>

Add sender to Contacts

.

You

have been talking about being dehydrated and suggestions were made to

increase electrolytes and salt.  But I wonder if you are overlooking an

important factor.

Have you been urinating a lot? 

The

reason I ask is because I myself developed what is called Type 3

Diabetes from considerable exposure to Cell Tower radiation beaming

into my apartment.  I had to urinate constantly, which caused

dehydration. 

********************************************************************************

Dr. Magda Havas, Associate Professor of Environmental and Resource Studies at

Trent University in Canada

has documented Type 3 Diabetes as a symptom of EMF and RF exposure. 

See research published in the Journal Electromagnetic Biology and

Medicine in 2008.

Also, these website articles are a place to start reading about it:

********************************************************************************

http://www.magdahavas.com/2010/03/22/diabetes-and-electrosensitivity/

********************************************************************************

http://www.buergerwelle.de/en/news/buergerwelle_news.html?rel=stories/682/

April 10, 2010 Buergerwelle Newlsetter for an article entitled:

Diabetes And Electrosensitivity Reveal New Type 3 Diabetes

by Amy Munday

********************************************************************************

http://arizonaadvancedmedicine.com/articles/electrosmog.html

*

********************************************************************************

I

already had hypoglycemic tendencies but it was under control until the

radiation began destroying my health and causing serious symptoms.

In his article  entitled " 2/07/2005 - German Doctors unite on RF health effects "

http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20050722_bamberg.asp

(Which was also posted to this group on March 10, 2007)

********************************************************************************

Symptoms

experienced by people exposed to microwaves are described and are

grouped by power flux density. Must see associated graphs.

* The symptom groups are defined as follows:

Group 1: No symptoms

Group 2: Sleep disturbance, tiredness, depressive mood

Group

3: Headaches, restlessness, dazed state, irritability, disturbance of

concentration, forgetfulness, learning difficulties, difficulty finding

words.

Group 4: Frequent infections, sinusitis, lymph node

swellings, joint and limb pains, nerve and soft tissue pains, numbness

or tingling, allergies

Group 5: Tinnitus, hearing loss, sudden

hearing loss, giddiness, impaired balance, visual disturbances, eye

inflammation, dry eyes

Group 6: Tachycardia, episodic hypertension, collapse

Group 7: Other symptoms (Hormonal disturbances, thyroid disease, night sweats,

frequent

urge to urinate, weight increase, nausea, loss of appetite, nose bleeds, skin

complaints, tumors, diabetes)

********************************************************************************

Group

7 experiences constant urination, a symptom of Type 3 Diabetes.  From

this list I like to refer to people who have experienced Group 1-7

symptoms as kind of like being Stage 5 EMR Disease.  I tell people that

I have Stage 5 Cell Tower Illness or Stage 5 Electrosensitivity,

because I have gone through most all of the symptoms experienced by

Group 1 thru 7, and more!!

********************************************************************************

So

take a look at the symptoms list and mark off the ones you have or have

had to get an idea of how advanced your EMR disease is. 

C.

Superdrove