Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Column 1 on the far right is Spindler's data, where the 40 percent mean lifespan increase occurred for late-life CR in mice who started at age 19 months when on average they live to 30.8 months. In human years, assuming an average lifespan of 100 years, (which is the estimated age that 50 percent of the population born today will live to if they steer clear of avoidable diseases caused by smoking, alcohol, obesity, etc, according to UC Berkeley Wellness Newsletter estimates), Spindler's 19 month-old mice started CR at a human equivalent age of 62 years: 19 mo X 100 yr / 30.8 mo = 61.69 years The extra 5 months of avg lifespan gain by these 44% CR mice is equivalent to 16 years of extra life: 5 mo X 100 yr / 30.8 mo = 16.23 44% CR for a human is certainly possible. There might be several dozen or more of our CRFolks living this rigorous level of CR, which though strict is still very possible. For a younger person, the lifespan gain would be proportionally much larger, certainly exceeding 20 years, thus achieving and even exceeding the threshold value of the average 120 years given by Dr. Roy Walford in his books featuring " The 120 Year Diet " . The 16 years gain for late life CR, and the 120 years mean lifespan are in good agreement with Bob Seitz's computations in the webpages that he created to post his numbers. See Bob's message below for his nice website and the lifespan gains that he computes. -- Warren Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2004 Mar 25 [Epub ahead of print] ph M. Dhahbi, Hyon-Jeen Kim, L. Mote, J. Beaver, and R. Spindler, " Temporal Linkage Between the Phenotypic and Genomic Responses to Caloric Restriction " , PMID: 15044709, [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] -- Warren http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0305300101v1 ==================== On 040904, Bob Seitz wrote: I have reframed Rae's table, adding a few lines that I needed to better understand his numbers. Citation (4) (2) (3) (1) Strain C3B10F1 C3B10F1 C57BL6 C3B6F1 Age Initiated 1 12 12 19 Calories/week AL 85 160 84 93 CR 50 90 62 52.2 %CR (vs AL) 41 44 26 44 Lifespan (months), AL: Mean 33 31 30 30.8 Max 40 40.6 37.7 37.6 Lifespan (months), CR: Mean 43 36.9 33.2 35.8 Max(longest Decile) 51 45.1 41.8 43.6 Lifespan Extension (months) Mean 10 5.9 3.2 5.0 Max 11 4.5 4.1 6.0 % Lifespan Extension Vs Total LS Mean 30 19 11 15 Max 28 11 11 16 Vs. Remaining LS Mean 31 18 16 40 Max 28 16 16 32 --------------------------------------------------------- .... I've also reformatted 's table in html format. I'll be glad to put it on the website. Of course, only this group would be privy to its web address or to its existence. However, search engines might pick it up. Should I do that? Or not? On a related topic, here's my attempt at an exposition of these results TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/2mjt9 LongURL: http://www.geocities.com/rnseitz/2004-4-8-Rejuvenation_Update.htm At the present time, our main Mega Foundation website is down, so I'm having to post this on my own private website. The audience reading this material is small (I think) but international, and consists of individuals many of whom are at the 1:30,000-and-up level of intelligence (4+ sigma, deviation IQ>= 164), as confirmed by various test instruments. The Mega Foundation was established to try to find ways to better harness the talents of the brightest members of the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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