Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. Can you described your reactions to these two devices? I know that in my own case, the EMF protection devices that I could not stand at first eventually became my favorite devices! They just required getting used to at first. So for example, with the Springlife Polarizers, I could only stand being near one for about 20 minutes on the first day, so I put it away after that. Each following day I would be near it until I got bad symptoms and then put it away. Gradually I could stand being near it for 1 hour, 2 hours, etc. After several weeks I could use it all day, and found it quite helpful in EMF environments. For me, the Springlife Polarizer causes my body to start dumping toxins into my bloodstream, so it can be helpful to also drink more water, take antioxidants, or take activated charcoal. But that would be good advice to anyone who has ES... :-) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 New cars have many more electronic gadgets (speed control on steering wheel, read outs, power seats, seat warmers, electric windows, etc.) I recommend finding a simple stick shift without all the extras. The less wiring around you the better. Shielding the distributor cap might help as well as getting a grounding strap from lessemf. Reducing body voltage as well as the magnetic fields from the wiring is the main goal to me. There are plug in to cig lighter filters you can buy to supposedly reduce emf. I tried it and not sure it made any difference. On Sep 4, 2008, at 9:28 AM, e wrote: > > Hi to all, > I'm electrosens after 20 years of home exposure at 3 milligaus from > power lines. > > no monitor or microwave hurt me as low frequency fields > > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. > > My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver > side of the car with some metallic foils? > > thank you > e > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 The best solution is a 1982-1985 mercedes diesel (240D or 300D, avoid 300SD if possible). Older diesels should also be low emf. On the 82-85s the biggest issue is the voltage regulator, but it's not too hard to unplug the alternator (there's a metal wire clip that you have to flip away with a screwdriver, then just pull the plug; if you need to plug it back in, don't bother with the clip. Be aware the cable is live at 12 V and can give quite a spark if the plug touches anything metal. ) Then you just need another way to charge the battery (you'll need a deep cycle battery, the only one I know of is the yellow Optima, which runs about $200). Then you can add a solar panel or two. In the summer I can do pretty well with a 15 watt glass panel on the trunk lid (I use a cheap simple 7A solar regulator that does not do pulse modulation). These ideas came from Bruce M., and they've worked well for me. I did disconnect a lot of electric stuff that wastes battery power and adds EMFs (tach, clock, antenna, radio, heater valve, climate computer, cruise computer). I live in a good solar climate, and in the winter have used a flexible panel on the roof. Occasionally I need to use a charger overnight (intellicharger is good). Any non-diesel car has spark plugs and will never be truly low-emf. But, I do know very ES people who do fine in older gasoline cars & trucks. I agree you want the base model with no extra gadgets. Bill On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: > New cars have many more electronic gadgets (speed control on steering > wheel, read outs, power seats, seat warmers, electric windows, etc.) > I recommend finding a simple stick shift without all the extras. > The less wiring around you the better. > Shielding the distributor cap might help as well as getting a grounding > strap from lessemf. > > Reducing body voltage as well as the magnetic fields from the wiring is > the main goal to me. > > There are plug in to cig lighter filters you can buy to supposedly > reduce emf. I tried it and not sure it made any difference. > > > > On Sep 4, 2008, at 9:28 AM, e wrote: > > > > > Hi to all, > > I'm electrosens after 20 years of home exposure at 3 milligaus from > > power lines. > > > > no monitor or microwave hurt me as low frequency fields > > > > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. > > > > My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits > > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after > > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver > > side of the car with some metallic foils? > > > > thank you > > e > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 In a message dated 9/4/2008 5:24:41 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, wbruno@... writes: Shielding the distributor cap might help as well as getting a grounding > strap from lessemf. > > Reducing body voltage as well as the magnetic fields from the wiring is > the main goal to me. > > There are plug in to cig lighter filters you can buy to supposedly > reduce emf. I tried it and not sure it made any difference. > PUK replies - There is also a method of demagnetising the steel bands in the wheels which act like an electro magnet as they spin close to your lower legs/.ankles, I expect many people get circulation problems from this aspect in their legs ! puk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 That is true. I know a person who demagnetizes his wheels each 5000 km. There seem to be some garages who can do that also. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender Re: Car shielding > > In a message dated 9/4/2008 5:24:41 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, > wbruno@... > writes: > > Shielding the distributor cap might help as well as getting a grounding >> strap from lessemf. >> >> Reducing body voltage as well as the magnetic fields from the wiring is >> the main goal to me. >> >> There are plug in to cig lighter filters you can buy to supposedly >> reduce emf. I tried it and not sure it made any difference. >> > > > PUK replies - There is also a method of demagnetising the steel bands in > the > wheels which act like an electro magnet as they spin close to your lower > legs/.ankles, I expect many people get circulation problems from this > aspect in > their legs ! > > puk > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 You will need to track and find the specific wires or appliance that is producing the field then wrap it with specific tape (lessemf has some). A general area like a fuse box might be lessoned if you cover the entire area with heavy foil or MU Metal. I bought a bunch of stuff to do that with the passenger seat in my car and haven't gotten around to do it yet. Let me know if it works. On Sep 4, 2008, at 6:35 PM, e-bioclinic wrote: > > > > Hi to all, > I'm electrosens after 20 years of home exposure at 3 milligaus from > power lines. > > no monitor or microwave hurt me as low frequency fields > > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. > > My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver > side of the car with some metallic foils? > > thank you > e > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 In a message dated 9/5/2008 1:07:10 A.M. GMT Daylight Time, amcafeerr@... writes: My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver > side of the car with some metallic foils? > > thank you > e PUK replies - I had a problem with a renault scenic, in the end the most offending component was the aircon climate change analyser ie a little fan and sensor coes to the head so it extracted it and hey presto the car is 90% better, which is about all you can expect otherwise its using leg power. PUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I think the issue is mainly the steel belts in the tires, not the wheels per se. The welding used to hold the belts together magnetizes them. Unfortunately it is not always easy to get the magnetization out, and sometimes it comes back. If one could find radial tires with non-steel belts (polyester, nylon, or aluminum?) it would be nice. Bill On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM, charles <charles@...> wrote: > That is true. > > I know a person who demagnetizes his wheels each 5000 km. > > There seem to be some garages who can do that also. > > Greetings, > Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Bitdefender > > > Re: Car shielding > > > > > In a message dated 9/4/2008 5:24:41 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, > > wbruno@... <wbruno%40gmail.com> > > writes: > > > > Shielding the distributor cap might help as well as getting a grounding > >> strap from lessemf. > >> > >> Reducing body voltage as well as the magnetic fields from the wiring is > >> the main goal to me. > >> > >> There are plug in to cig lighter filters you can buy to supposedly > >> reduce emf. I tried it and not sure it made any difference. > >> > > > > > > PUK replies - There is also a method of demagnetising the steel bands in > > the > > wheels which act like an electro magnet as they spin close to your lower > > legs/.ankles, I expect many people get circulation problems from this > > aspect in > > their legs ! > > > > puk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 The magnetic field in a car can be caused by something as simple as a dash light dimmer. Set the dimmer to full brightness for lowest EMF. Diablo, this computer hurts. Out. Eli > > > Hi to all, > I'm electrosens after 20 years of home exposure at 3 milligaus from > power lines. > > no monitor or microwave hurt me as low frequency fields > > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. > > My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver > side of the car with some metallic foils? > > thank you > e > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 I'm testing different new cars. It seems the bad source of EMF come from: - fuse box - something in front of driver, deeper in the plastic. I tried to deactivate each component pulling out the relative fuse but the EMF did not change. So I believe the problem is the electronic command central box ...... and this is not solvable. e > > > > > > Hi to all, > > I'm electrosens after 20 years of home exposure at 3 milligaus from > > power lines. > > > > no monitor or microwave hurt me as low frequency fields > > > > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. > > > > My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits > > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after > > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver > > side of the car with some metallic foils? > > > > thank you > > e > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 yes, it seems also for me springfield put toxin around ... I can't stand it for few minutes at all. I just tried progressive approach without any improvements. I have a big story of amalgam-mercury toxicity Once a naturopath gave me mercurius solubilis (omeotoxicology) and I felt the same sensations.... He said to me there is a psycho trauma that blocks toxin exit .... e > > > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. > > Can you described your reactions to these two > devices? > > I know that in my own case, the EMF protection devices > that I could not stand at first eventually became my > favorite devices! They just required getting used > to at first. So for example, with the Springlife > Polarizers, I could only stand being near one > for about 20 minutes on the first day, so I put > it away after that. Each following day I would > be near it until I got bad symptoms and then > put it away. Gradually I could stand being > near it for 1 hour, 2 hours, etc. After > several weeks I could use it all day, and found > it quite helpful in EMF environments. > > For me, the Springlife Polarizer causes my body > to start dumping toxins into my bloodstream, so > it can be helpful to also drink more water, > take antioxidants, or take activated charcoal. > But that would be good advice to anyone who > has ES... :-) > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 it is very strange ... my last car is two-fuel benzine-metan ... when it runs on metan the field is very low ... > > > > > > > > Hi to all, > > > I'm electrosens after 20 years of home exposure at 3 milligaus from > > > power lines. > > > > > > no monitor or microwave hurt me as low frequency fields > > > > > > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. > > > > > > My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits > > > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after > > > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver > > > side of the car with some metallic foils? > > > > > > thank you > > > e > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Opel Zafira measures less of 0,5 milligaus on my trifield meter (I suppose the real field is 1/3) ... BUT when you pick up the light by night the switch emitts up to 10 milligauss. e > > > > > > Hi to all, > > I'm electrosens after 20 years of home exposure at 3 milligaus from > > power lines. > > > > no monitor or microwave hurt me as low frequency fields > > > > I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them. > > > > My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits > > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after > > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver > > side of the car with some metallic foils? > > > > thank you > > e > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 > yes, it seems also for me springfield put toxin around ... I can't > stand it for few minutes at all. I just tried progressive approach > without any improvements. Okay then, you're more sensitive to the Springlife Polarizers than I was, as I was able to build up a tolerance to them. But yes, they do have a tendency to cause your body to dump toxins. This would ordinarily be a good thing, except for folks who cannot process and eliminate these toxins (liver problems, etc.) In these cases, these devices have to be used in parallel with some " Liver Helpers " (antioxidants, charcoal, pectin, etc.) > Once a naturopath gave me mercurius solubilis (omeotoxicology) Yes, I had a terrible reaction to homeopathic mercury... I don't recommend that anyone try this... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Marc, I have the same reactions with Himalayan salt rock. I can stand it ingested and neither keeping close to me the rock. It is very strange because generally I'm not so sensible with herbal or supplements or chemicals. You mentioned before antiox as Crystal Energy NDF etc... Do you had significant improvement and NOT any seizures from them after years of use? e > > > yes, it seems also for me springfield put toxin around ... I can't > > stand it for few minutes at all. I just tried progressive approach > > without any improvements. > > Okay then, you're more sensitive to the Springlife Polarizers than > I was, as I was able to build up a tolerance to them. But yes, they > do have a tendency to cause your body to dump toxins. This would > ordinarily be a good thing, except for folks who cannot process > and eliminate these toxins (liver problems, etc.) In these cases, > these devices have to be used in parallel with some " Liver Helpers " > (antioxidants, charcoal, pectin, etc.) > > > Once a naturopath gave me mercurius solubilis (omeotoxicology) > > Yes, I had a terrible reaction to homeopathic mercury... I don't > recommend that anyone try this... > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 > You mentioned before antiox as Crystal Energy NDF etc... > Do you had significant improvement and NOT any seizures from them > after years of use? I've had no seizures from anything. I have had significant improvement from various things -- cellfood, h-minus, crystal energy, ndf, etc. All of these things have some sort of detox action. However, even after doing these things for years and years, I'm still not completely better, and this last year has been bad because I wasn't doing much the previous year, and then I had a bad reaction from an ionic footbath. So I'm now back to my old routine of using lots of supplements and slowly getting better again. Although this time, I seem to be doing best by supporting my adrenal glands, digestion, and thyroid gland. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 wow, the same problems of mine. what are you doing specifically for adrenals and thyroid ? .... I'm waiting for results from zrt saliva cortisol test. The best product for my digestion is NUX VOMICA HOMACCORD (HEEL) but not too much otherwise it causes me depression in the day after. e > > > You mentioned before antiox as Crystal Energy NDF etc... > > Do you had significant improvement and NOT any seizures from them > > after years of use? > > I've had no seizures from anything. > > I have had significant improvement from various things -- cellfood, > h-minus, crystal energy, ndf, etc. All of these things have some > sort of detox action. However, even after doing these things for > years and years, I'm still not completely better, and this last > year has been bad because I wasn't doing much the previous year, > and then I had a bad reaction from an ionic footbath. So I'm > now back to my old routine of using lots of supplements and > slowly getting better again. Although this time, I seem > to be doing best by supporting my adrenal glands, digestion, > and thyroid gland. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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