Traveling through Europe: some feedback from 2 fellow ES-ers

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Just back from traveling through Europe. Traveling with South-African (-er)

Kikkie.

As posted here in 2010:

/message/16549

I feel better in Belgium and Thailand (no 3G) compared with other countries

where I've been such as Germany, England, France, Luxemburg, Switzerland and

Cambodia. In these countries I much more easily get chest pain.

Over the years my ES-reactions in these countries have improved. I've noticed

this when sometimes traveling in these countries for a few hours. Still I was

not sure if I could actually survive traveling through these countries for more

than 24 hours.

In the end I held better than I expected. I felt okey-ish in Germany, Czech

Republic and Poland. Even in large cities like Prague.

Still there is one city we visited that was like hell for me ES-wise. The city

Krakau in Poland. It's unbelievable what dirty signal is present there (LTE or

Wimax or some HAARP mind control?) cause my ES-reaction there was so extreme.

Don't know any other place in Europe where I'm that ES right now. After 30

minutes in Krakau I got serious chest pain and I wouldn't 've been able to stay

there much longer, so for my own survival we simply had to drive out of the

city.

Kikkie often had very similar ES-experiences. For instance we both felt better

walking in Prague compared with walking in the smaller Czech city Karlsbad.

Kikkie also had the impression Krakau was really bad for her ES-wise based on

her ES-symptoms after only 30 minutes there.

By the way, traveling through Europe whilst not having to sleep in Wifi-hotels

has become more difficult than ever. I think less than 5% of the hotels in

Germany and Czech Rep. have got no Wifi...

Kikkie traveled twice to Europe in the past 3 years, and each time she

immediately feels much better energy-wise in Europe compared to South Africa.

It's almost certainly emf-related, but why exactly (what emf-source) is

difficult to say.

I think there is a possibility my ES is HAARP-related. It may seem farfetched

and I admit it's a wild guess but it is based on:

- 1.5 years ago I listened for the first time to ' emf-sounds on his

site:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html

- I did not feel anything special when listening to the mp3-sounds, only when

listening to the (possibly) HAARP-sounds I did get the same chest pain as I'm

having in most countries (back then I had no idea what HAARP was by the way)

- Now 2 weeks ago I did listen to ' HAARP-sounds again, I still could

feel my body doesn't like it, but I'm certain my body is much less intolerant to

the sounds compared to 1.5 years ago.

- 1.5 years ago I was also more ES abroad (England, Germany, France etc.) (and

also more ES to Wimax in some cities in Belgium)

1 + 1 = 2? My ES is mainly ES to HAARP or some sort of mind control signal?!

HAARP (or a mind control signal) might be inactive in Belgium and Thailand,

exactly the 2 countries where I don't have that much chest pain due to emf?

On this webpage of European Working Group of Non-Lethal Weapons:

http://www.non-lethal-weapons.com/index.html

you can see on the pdf of the 5th symposium:

http://www.non-lethal-weapons.com/sy05programme.pdf

that Belgium was not part of that very suspicious " club " of European

countries...

Coïncidence? I really have no idea! ;-)

Another possible explanation for my ES that differs a lot in between countries

is that the 3G/UMTS- signal is emitted in many countries by more powerful

cellphone antennas compared to those in Belgium.

ANYWAY

Kikkie and my experiences definitely confirm that ES-wise we can react very

different in different countries and cities...

gr,

Vandevijvere.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

an aquaintance from Holland told me, that while visting London, Paris and

Venice, she found it remarkable that on the streets, she saw hardly people with

mobile phones, while in the Netherlands it seems that everybody uses them

constantly on the streets.

When I perform house surveys, I also check other frequency bands.

And very often I measure signals on frequencies, which should not be there.

When I look them up in frequency tables, they are very often marked *military*.

I also measure different signals between 20 and 40 MHz.very often.

What really disturbs me, is that I also measure frequencies (between 5kHz and 30

MHz) in the ground, and in some places also in the air.

In ca. 8 weeks I will have a calibrated antenna for measuring signals in the air

(dirty air) from 1 Hz up to 30 MHz.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Traveling through Europe: some feedback from 2 fellow ES-ers

Hi,

Just back from traveling through Europe. Traveling with South-African

(-er) Kikkie.

As posted here in 2010:

/message/16549

I feel better in Belgium and Thailand (no 3G) compared with other countries

where I've been such as Germany, England, France, Luxemburg, Switzerland and

Cambodia. In these countries I much more easily get chest pain.

Over the years my ES-reactions in these countries have improved. I've noticed

this when sometimes traveling in these countries for a few hours. Still I was

not sure if I could actually survive traveling through these countries for more

than 24 hours.

In the end I held better than I expected. I felt okey-ish in Germany, Czech

Republic and Poland. Even in large cities like Prague.

Still there is one city we visited that was like hell for me ES-wise. The city

Krakau in Poland. It's unbelievable what dirty signal is present there (LTE or

Wimax or some HAARP mind control?) cause my ES-reaction there was so extreme.

Don't know any other place in Europe where I'm that ES right now. After 30

minutes in Krakau I got serious chest pain and I wouldn't 've been able to stay

there much longer, so for my own survival we simply had to drive out of the

city.

Kikkie often had very similar ES-experiences. For instance we both felt better

walking in Prague compared with walking in the smaller Czech city Karlsbad.

Kikkie also had the impression Krakau was really bad for her ES-wise based on

her ES-symptoms after only 30 minutes there.

By the way, traveling through Europe whilst not having to sleep in Wifi-hotels

has become more difficult than ever. I think less than 5% of the hotels in

Germany and Czech Rep. have got no Wifi...

Kikkie traveled twice to Europe in the past 3 years, and each time she

immediately feels much better energy-wise in Europe compared to South Africa.

It's almost certainly emf-related, but why exactly (what emf-source) is

difficult to say.

I think there is a possibility my ES is HAARP-related. It may seem farfetched

and I admit it's a wild guess but it is based on:

- 1.5 years ago I listened for the first time to ' emf-sounds on his

site:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html

- I did not feel anything special when listening to the mp3-sounds, only when

listening to the (possibly) HAARP-sounds I did get the same chest pain as I'm

having in most countries (back then I had no idea what HAARP was by the way)

- Now 2 weeks ago I did listen to ' HAARP-sounds again, I still could

feel my body doesn't like it, but I'm certain my body is much less intolerant to

the sounds compared to 1.5 years ago.

- 1.5 years ago I was also more ES abroad (England, Germany, France etc.) (and

also more ES to Wimax in some cities in Belgium)

1 + 1 = 2? My ES is mainly ES to HAARP or some sort of mind control signal?!

HAARP (or a mind control signal) might be inactive in Belgium and Thailand,

exactly the 2 countries where I don't have that much chest pain due to emf?

On this webpage of European Working Group of Non-Lethal Weapons:

http://www.non-lethal-weapons.com/index.html

you can see on the pdf of the 5th symposium:

http://www.non-lethal-weapons.com/sy05programme.pdf

that Belgium was not part of that very suspicious " club " of European

countries...

Coïncidence? I really have no idea! ;-)

Another possible explanation for my ES that differs a lot in between countries

is that the 3G/UMTS- signal is emitted in many countries by more powerful

cellphone antennas compared to those in Belgium.

ANYWAY

Kikkie and my experiences definitely confirm that ES-wise we can react very

different in different countries and cities...

gr,

Vandevijvere.

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