Re: Electrosensitivity

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> I am also interested in what personal

> protection devices that you have found helpful or any other suggestions

> that you might give. Thanks again so much.

Welcome to the group, Sharon!

I think you will find that if you browse through old messages, you

will find a lot of experiences from various group members. Also,

some of the initial messages have been compiled into large text

files and are available in the " files " portion of this

Group, which might be easier to navigate than using 's

interface.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I think you will find that if you browse through old messages, you

> will find a lot of experiences from various group members.

Oh, and your husband might find the following website

interesting reading:

http://electrical-sensitivity.info/

Marc

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

I dunno if this will be of much help and it's certainly not scientific but I

used to get flushing constantly; flushing that would turn to dry, rashy...well,

you know. I found allergy shots helped. I guess the antihistamines reduce the

inflamation. Not much of a solution but...

tanya

@...: smenicanin@...: Mon, 4 Feb 2008

16:07:57 -0800Subject: Electrosensitivity

Thank you for this group. It is from what we have read here that we have

determined that my husband is electrosensitive. Many trips to doctors have been

unhelpful - same old story. My husband experiences facial burning at all times

when he uses a laptop and at all times in our home. The only relief comes from

eating or sleeping. He has used a spray which helps temporarily - it is Avene -

a springwater from France that comes as a spray - for whatever reason it helps

temporarily. I have been reading your site and sharing the information with my

husband. He has quit using his labtop in the classroom. He came home tonight and

said that he was getting worse and if he didn't do something he would no longer

be able to use a computer. We have a CRT monitor which we plan to change to a

LCD screen. For upcoming report cards he will distance himself from the screen

with extension cables and perhaps a projector. I am just grateful for a place to

talk about this without being looked atas if I am going crazy. I am also

interested in what personal protection devices that you have found helpful or

any other suggestions that you might give. Thanks again so much.Sharon

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> My husband experiences facial burning at all times when he uses a laptop and

at all times in our home.>

Hi Sharon,

Very powerful microwaves are emitted from the antenna located in the top edge of

the laptop screen (and the home's wireless router).

As an experiment, have your husband try turning off the laptop's wireless

connection (radio disabled). And turn off (unplug) the wireless router. Does

that improve his symptoms? If yes, you can consider only using a wired network

connection. Shielding is another option, of course.

If that doesn't help, then he is still reacting to the electric and/or magnetic

fields. Here, shielding and remote keyboard are still possible ways to reduce

exposure.

By the way, I recently stumbled across a utility called " magnifier " in

start/programs/accessories/accessibility. Very useful for viewing your screen at

great distance. You can magnify your screen display from 2x to 9x. Has anyone

used this? There is also an onscreen keyboard (in same location), so one could

do all keyboard functions with a remote mouse.

Emil

[Guest guest]

There is a utility like that on the optional install disc for mac (it may be

enabled

by default in the latest Leopard OS?). The other way, besides increasing

font size,

is to decrease resolution.

I think large LCD screens are more likely to be a problem than smaller ones,

but

that also limits how far you can put it. Projectors may be the better

approach,

like the energy efficient 'pocket' LED DLP ones, although DLP makes that

rainbow effect that

can be irritating if you're doing multiple hours at a time.

Good luck...

Bill

On Mon, Feb 4, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Less EMF Inc <lessemf@...> wrote:

> > My husband experiences facial burning at all times when he uses a

> laptop and at all times in our home.>

>

> Hi Sharon,

> Very powerful microwaves are emitted from the antenna located in the top

> edge of the laptop screen (and the home's wireless router).

> As an experiment, have your husband try turning off the laptop's wireless

> connection (radio disabled). And turn off (unplug) the wireless router. Does

> that improve his symptoms? If yes, you can consider only using a wired

> network connection. Shielding is another option, of course.

> If that doesn't help, then he is still reacting to the electric and/or

> magnetic fields. Here, shielding and remote keyboard are still possible ways

> to reduce exposure.

> By the way, I recently stumbled across a utility called " magnifier " in

> start/programs/accessories/accessibility. Very useful for viewing your

> screen at great distance. You can magnify your screen display from 2x to 9x.

> Has anyone used this? There is also an onscreen keyboard (in same location),

> so one could do all keyboard functions with a remote mouse.

> Emil

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I think large LCD screens are more likely to be a problem than smaller ones

I'm not so sure about such generalizations -- it seems that my 26 " LCD

causes me less problems than my previous 15 " LCD. I think that is

simply because I can be further away from it and still see it fine.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the intro. I am new to the group as well, and found the replies

helpful.

My son has allergies that cause failure to thrive (he can't gain weight no

matter how much he eats). He also has terrible bleeding eczema all over his

body. We found out by accident that he gets better during power

blackouts--then the eczema comes back when the power comes back again.

Through a lot of trial and error, we hypothesize that his allergies are

related to electrosensitivity. In remote villages where there is no

electricity (in Africa), he can eat things with almost no allergic reaction.

And he gains weight.

We are now living in Peru (South America). We haven't found any place in

the USA where he can live without being very ill. Africa is ideal for him,

but impractical for the rest of the family.

Helen in Peru

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/5/2008 9:40:44 AM GMT Standard Time,

ajwelectro@... writes:

tonight and said that he was getting worse and if he

> didn't do something he would no longer be able to

> use a computer. We have a CRT monitor which we plan

> to change to a LCD screen. For upcoming report cards

> he will distance himself from the screen with

> extension cables and perhaps a projector. I am just

> grateful for a place to talk about this without

> being looked at

UK replies - He might find the purchase of an Electrosmog detector a

good investment to determine what level of elctrosmog (in the range of the

meter) he is being exposed to, he might find that he is closer than he thinks to

all manner of wireless devices, dect phone base, wifi, mobile phone masts

etc.. If he goes down this route he can use the device somewhat

surruptitiously

by plugging in a earphone into the jack plug, best not to alarm others as

you are unlikely to get a great deal of appreciation from this. He might also

have a word with Mr... Bevington an english masters teacher at stowe school

who he may relate to - contact Electrosensitivity.uk. If you are by chance

local to surrey england then you could arrange to meet with myself and another

ES sufferer (he conducts Electromagnetice surveys so is very knowledgeable on

the subject) finally Yes ditch the CRT, although an LCD screen particularly

if part of a laptop can be very offensive to ES sufferers - Tip try getting

an AM radio tune it out to white noise and bring it close to offending

equipment you will most likely here what you are up against, your best friend

at

this stage is good old fashioned prudent advoidance and distance. Oh and last

thing I am currently trialing a magnification software called ZOOMTEXT, this

enables me to magnify all text on screen so that I can sit further away

without aid of glasses, you also have the possibility of using voice activated

software but alsa for me the microphone and whatever it omits is most offensive

! it might work for you ?

UK

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/5/2008 6:14:51 AM GMT Standard Time, helensan@...

writes:

My son has allergies that cause failure to thrive (he can't gain weight no

matter how much he eats). He also has terrible bleeding eczema all over his

body. We found out by accident that he gets better during power

blackouts--then the eczema comes back when the power comes back again.

Through a lot of trial and error, we hypothesize that his allergies are

related to electrosensitivity. In remote villages where there is no

electricity (in Africa), he can eat things with almost no allergic reaction.

And he gains weight.

I find this very interesting, my theory as an ES sufferer is that as we have

begun to fill our environments with so many artificial chemical compounds

and in tandum the ever increasing electrosmog puts so many peoples bodies into a

state of intracellular alert, if the body cannot make sense of the invader

by converting it to something that can be eliminated in a tried and trusted

way it will go haywire leading to autoimmune pathologies, signals from

Telephone masts, phones etc will act on weaknesses and like they were cracks

open

them up thus predisposing the individual to disease and so on, I am not a Dr

but

that makes sense to me. What I have found is that restricting the amount of

caloiries I intake particularly from breakfast to lunch does seem to lessen

or stave off symptoms, but getting the balance right and maintaining it is

the big problem.

I hope you find a santuary if you do then protect it as best you can.

P uk

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:11:09 AM GMT Standard Time,

lessemf@... writes:

By the way, I recently stumbled across a utility called " magnifier " in

start/programs/By the wBy the way, I recently stumbled across a utility called

" magnifier " in start/programs/<WBR>accessories/<WBR>accessibility. Very useful

for viewing your screen at great distance. You can magnify your screen

display from 2x to 9x. Has anyone used this? There

Emil

I am currently trialing Zoomtext which is very good, it also combines a

reader that will talk, this is a little anpying but can be easily disabled.

Trial for 30 days from Download.com or similar. Also as my laptop is only

15.4inch screen I find the constant moving of the dispaly in zoomtext can

induce

sea sickness feeling. I am 1.5m away from the laptop and using a ordinary

keyboard with a separate infrared mouse, none of this really helps, as the

mouse

stings my hand and upto my elbow, as it did with normal mouse so really I

need greater distance from the whole setup, combined with greater

disipline/organisation when on the pc, however after a while any startegy I

have gets as

wooly as my head, best thing would be to get someone else to do the

computerwork !

UK

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon

My advice would be somewhat different to everyone

elses as last year I too had issues with my computer.

At this point, I really wished I had stayed away,

worked out what to do, and then continued on.

In my opinion, if your husband continues as he is, it

may possibly get worse. I honestly wish someone had

stopped me working, even for a couple of weeks, as I

got much worse, even though I am now improving. I

understand this is very difficult when trying to do a

job but sometimes you need to put your health first.

I would suggest a week off or two if he can manage it.

I would then go around your house and make sure all

wifi, mobiles, dect phones and anything radiating a

signal is switched off. In fact, anything that does

not need to be plugged in, remove it and see if it

makes a difference. It is good to try and keep a

diary, this has helped me. Install a wired connection

for the internet but give yourself a break until the

symptoms settle down.

I would then suggest looking at his health and diet.

Switching to a fresh organic diet helps and also

changing anything else that adds to the toxic load,

eg, all my home products/beauty products have been

switched to Eco ones.

I would also suggest speaking to someone about

vitamins and minerals as many ES people have low

B-Vits and trace minerals. I would also look at

taking an antioxidant to keep him in optimum health.

I am getting some good results from Epsom Salts baths

which detoxify you. If I have been on a computer for

a long time and have one of these baths, it takes away

that horrible numb feeling...it may help and it is

cheap to try.

I would also suggest getting some fresh air and taking

up some exercise or form of relaxation if possible.

I personally dont think the computer screen has any

bearing, it is bringing on 'symptoms' but symptoms

have a cause and treating the basic health should

hopefully bring about an improvement.

These are only my suggestions and many of the people

on this site have much more experience than me, I just

wanted to try and help if at all possible.

Please come back to me if you have any questions on

the things I mention above.

Alison

--- Sharon Menicanin <smenicanin@...> wrote:

> Thank you for this group. It is from what we have

> read here that we have determined that my husband is

> electrosensitive. Many trips to doctors have been

> unhelpful - same old story. My husband experiences

> facial burning at all times when he uses a laptop

> and at all times in our home. The only relief comes

> from eating or sleeping. He has used a spray which

> helps temporarily - it is Avene - a springwater from

> France that comes as a spray - for whatever reason

> it helps temporarily. I have been reading your site

> and sharing the information with my husband. He has

> quit using his labtop in the classroom. He came home

> tonight and said that he was getting worse and if he

> didn't do something he would no longer be able to

> use a computer. We have a CRT monitor which we plan

> to change to a LCD screen. For upcoming report cards

> he will distance himself from the screen with

> extension cables and perhaps a projector. I am just

> grateful for a place to talk about this without

> being looked at

> as if I am going crazy. I am also interested in

> what personal protection devices that you have found

> helpful or any other suggestions that you might

> give. Thanks again so much.

> Sharon Menicanin

>

>

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