Wasting???? [Was: CR and Weight Training]

[Guest guest]

Hi folks:

It was JW here who explained this the way that best clarified the

issue for me, when he said something to the effect that: if you weigh

40 pounds less your body realizes you do not need as much muscle to

hold yourself up or propel you on your daily activities, nor as much

bone to withstand your weight. So it responds accordingly.

Using the term 'wasting' implies (to me at least) some dangerous

deterioration, when in fact it may well be a perfectly good and

natural body response. Of course I am not talking about bone loss

due to calcium deficiency or some other non-natural cause - that

indeed is bad news.

OBESE PEOPLE DO NOT SUFFER OSTEOPOROSIS!

Rodney.

> The benefits of CR appear, at least up to approximately 60%

reduction from

> " ad lib " intake, to result in a relatively linear extension of

lifepan.

> Thus, the greater the amount of caloric reduction from ad lib, the

greater

> the benefit. At some point, this reduction will probably result

in " muscle

> wasting " or reduction of lean body mass.

>

>

> >From: john2dc@a...

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Re: [ ] CR and Weight Training

> >Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 19:10:43 EDT

> >

> >Here is the key issue: Is the calorie reduction necessary to

produce the

> >benefits of CR proportional to muscle mass? In other words, if

you weigh

> >200 lbs

> >with lean muscles mass and you would normally eat 3000 calories a

day, can

> >you get the same benefits by continuing to work out, but cutting

back to

> >2,500,

> >i.e. by 1/6, calories per day as someone who weights 150 eating

2000

> >calories

> >per day who also cuts back 1/6? Or, do you have to have muscle

wasting to

> >get the benefits of CR?

> >

> >Any thoughts?

[Guest guest]

Remodeling is the kinder, gentler term..... and yes bone health is a valid

concern for any beginning without excess bone mass and living (hopefully for

a long time) in the dangerous real world.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:08 AM

Subject: [ ] Wasting???? [Was: CR and Weight Training]

Hi folks:

It was JW here who explained this the way that best clarified the

issue for me, when he said something to the effect that: if you weigh

40 pounds less your body realizes you do not need as much muscle to

hold yourself up or propel you on your daily activities, nor as much

bone to withstand your weight. So it responds accordingly.

Using the term 'wasting' implies (to me at least) some dangerous

deterioration, when in fact it may well be a perfectly good and

natural body response. Of course I am not talking about bone loss

due to calcium deficiency or some other non-natural cause - that

indeed is bad news.

OBESE PEOPLE DO NOT SUFFER OSTEOPOROSIS!

Rodney.

> The benefits of CR appear, at least up to approximately 60%

reduction from

> " ad lib " intake, to result in a relatively linear extension of

lifepan.

> Thus, the greater the amount of caloric reduction from ad lib, the

greater

> the benefit. At some point, this reduction will probably result

in " muscle

> wasting " or reduction of lean body mass.

>

>

>

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