Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry to hear about your situation.

Regarding how far you need to be from the towers, that varies depending on

how sensitive you are, as well as how many antennas are on the tower, how

strong of a signal they generate, and what they are used for. You might be

extremely sensitive to the digital microwave signals from cell phone

antennas, but not affected much from an AM radio station, for example. The

short answer is to try to find a place as far from any antennas as possible.

The more antennas on a tower, the stronger the signal, and the more you will

be affected. In general, taller towers are put up so that they can cover a

larger area. But in order to cover long distances, the power also has to be

increased. I suspect you will be able to tolerate being closer to a short

cell phone tower than a tall one.

In highly populated areas, more and more cell phone antennas and towers have

been put up in order to handle the large number of calls. That usually

means lots of short towers running at lower power, since each antenna only

covers a small area. But they seem to have so many towers and antennas now

that it is difficult to keep far enough away. For me, living in a suburban

area, I need to be at least 1/2 a mile away from cell phone towers.

However, in rural areas, along expressways, I am affected from almost 2

miles away. There are fewer towers out in the country than where I live,

but they can be operating at much higher power levels, so that they can

cover longer distances.

Don't get too discouraged looking at antenna locations on a map. If other

buildings block your view of the antennas, they might reduce the signal

enough that you will be able to tolerate living closer to a tower than you

would otherwise.

I don't mean to further complicate your problems, but when looking for an

apartment, keep an eye out for where the electric meters are located. You

don't want an apartment right next to them.

I'm not sure what the best/least expensive shielding solution is. Hopefully

someone else can help answer that.

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[Guest guest]

> I just learned today that I am going to have to find an efficiency

> apartment or a room to rent somewhere! I feel very shell shocked

> and unprepared for how to best investigate to get a place safe for

> the future....

How much flexibility do you have in choosing a place to live? Can

you live in a place that isn't very densely populated? That is,

no apartment buildings nearby, and ideally not even a lot of

houses? Perhaps by a large park? A body of water?

It seems like the further away from the freeways you are, the

better off you are. Also, I think there are web pages where

people can complain about poor cellphone coverage -- those

might be good places to live. :-)

Marc

[Guest guest]

In an apartment, you might have trouble with microwave ovens and cordless phones

in adjacent units. Could be better to rent a small house; on the other hand if

you're high up in a building, you'll be farther away from the utility meters.

I'd be less worried about radio towers if they're not close by.

J.L.

>

> > I just learned today that I am going to have to find an efficiency

> > apartment or a room to rent somewhere! I feel very shell shocked

> > and unprepared for how to best investigate to get a place safe for

> > the future....

>

> How much flexibility do you have in choosing a place to live? Can

> you live in a place that isn't very densely populated? That is,

> no apartment buildings nearby, and ideally not even a lot of

> houses? Perhaps by a large park? A body of water?

>

> It seems like the further away from the freeways you are, the

> better off you are. Also, I think there are web pages where

> people can complain about poor cellphone coverage -- those

> might be good places to live. :-)

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

And let me add, that many areas now have " smart meters " which are the

replacement

for the old, analog electric meters. These are wireless, microwave meters.

For more info on smart meters, www.stopsmartmeters.org

and www.W4AR.com

Lizzie

esens

From: j7077-eagle@...

Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:35:04 -0700

Subject: Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!

I am so sorry to hear about your situation.

Regarding how far you need to be from the towers, that varies depending on

how sensitive you are, as well as how many antennas are on the tower, how

strong of a signal they generate, and what they are used for. You might be

extremely sensitive to the digital microwave signals from cell phone

antennas, but not affected much from an AM radio station, for example. The

short answer is to try to find a place as far from any antennas as possible.

The more antennas on a tower, the stronger the signal, and the more you will

be affected. In general, taller towers are put up so that they can cover a

larger area. But in order to cover long distances, the power also has to be

increased. I suspect you will be able to tolerate being closer to a short

cell phone tower than a tall one.

In highly populated areas, more and more cell phone antennas and towers have

been put up in order to handle the large number of calls. That usually

means lots of short towers running at lower power, since each antenna only

covers a small area. But they seem to have so many towers and antennas now

that it is difficult to keep far enough away. For me, living in a suburban

area, I need to be at least 1/2 a mile away from cell phone towers.

However, in rural areas, along expressways, I am affected from almost 2

miles away. There are fewer towers out in the country than where I live,

but they can be operating at much higher power levels, so that they can

cover longer distances.

Don't get too discouraged looking at antenna locations on a map. If other

buildings block your view of the antennas, they might reduce the signal

enough that you will be able to tolerate living closer to a tower than you

would otherwise.

I don't mean to further complicate your problems, but when looking for an

apartment, keep an eye out for where the electric meters are located. You

don't want an apartment right next to them.

I'm not sure what the best/least expensive shielding solution is. Hopefully

someone else can help answer that.

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[Guest guest]

THANK YOU to everyone!  This really is all such good advice I will try to

apply.  At the moment I have some restriction to not be too far from my older

brother who can help me with moving, etc, as I have been very weak from lyme,

mold, etc...too......I am wondering if it comes down to the fact that I have to

be in a complex with some people and thteir bad stuff around, would it be

possible using shielding products on all the walls, floor, ceiling, that that

could block almost all of it?

 

Second question is I own a baklava to cover my head and throat, and camisole for

the chest.  I could make leggings and along sleeve shirt to be tottally

coveredd personally.  If I covered my body in all this, do you think I would

need to cover the whole apartment?  The camisole is supposed to shield up to

35dB at 100MHz......

 

Thanks if you can help!

 

Debbie

Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!

  In an apartment, you might have trouble with microwave ovens and cordless

phones in adjacent units. Could be better to rent a small house; on the other

hand if you're high up in a building, you'll be farther away from the utility

meters. I'd be less worried about radio towers if they're not close by.

J.L.

& gt;

& gt; & gt; I just learned today that I am going to have to find an efficiency

& gt; & gt; apartment or a room to rent somewhere! I feel very shell shocked

& gt; & gt; and unprepared for how to best investigate to get a place safe for

& gt; & gt; the future....

& gt;

& gt; How much flexibility do you have in choosing a place to live? Can

& gt; you live in a place that isn't very densely populated? That is,

& gt; no apartment buildings nearby, and ideally not even a lot of

& gt; houses? Perhaps by a large park? A body of water?

& gt;

& gt; It seems like the further away from the freeways you are, the

& gt; better off you are. Also, I think there are web pages where

& gt; people can complain about poor cellphone coverage -- those

& gt; might be good places to live. :-)

& gt;

& gt; Marc

& gt;

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

Having been one to move away from power towers with very little improvement, I

can tell you not to make the same mistake that I did! I am stuck here for awhile

even though it isn't working out health wise for me.

I highly recommend renting a room in a house month-to-month. It is best to be

somewhere that you can easily move from if the EMF situation changes for the

worse. I agree that apartments aren't the best choice as you are too close to

too many other tenants with their electronic devices right on the other side of

your wall. Also most apartments ( and houses) require a lease and you can't

easily move if you need to.

I agree with the other advice that you were given. All very good - just need to

add flexibility to it as EMF situations around you can change for the worse.

Let us know how it goes.

Cheryl

From: Debbie4God39@... <Debbie4God39@...>

Subject: Re: Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!

Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 10:16 AM

 

THANK YOU to everyone!  This really is all such good advice I will try to

apply.  At the moment I have some restriction to not be too far from my older

brother who can help me with moving, etc, as I have been very weak from lyme,

mold, etc...too......I am wondering if it comes down to the fact that I have to

be in a complex with some people and thteir bad stuff around, would it be

possible using shielding products on all the walls, floor, ceiling, that that

could block almost all of it?

 

Second question is I own a baklava to cover my head and throat, and camisole for

the chest.  I could make leggings and along sleeve shirt to be tottally

coveredd personally.  If I covered my body in all this, do you think I would

need to cover the whole apartment?  The camisole is supposed to shield up to

35dB at 100MHz......

 

Thanks if you can help!

 

Debbie

Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!

  In an apartment, you might have trouble with microwave ovens and cordless

phones in adjacent units. Could be better to rent a small house; on the other

hand if you're high up in a building, you'll be farther away from the utility

meters. I'd be less worried about radio towers if they're not close by.

J.L.

& gt;

& gt; & gt; I just learned today that I am going to have to find an efficiency

& gt; & gt; apartment or a room to rent somewhere! I feel very shell shocked

& gt; & gt; and unprepared for how to best investigate to get a place safe for

& gt; & gt; the future....

& gt;

& gt; How much flexibility do you have in choosing a place to live? Can

& gt; you live in a place that isn't very densely populated? That is,

& gt; no apartment buildings nearby, and ideally not even a lot of

& gt; houses? Perhaps by a large park? A body of water?

& gt;

& gt; It seems like the further away from the freeways you are, the

& gt; better off you are. Also, I think there are web pages where

& gt; people can complain about poor cellphone coverage -- those

& gt; might be good places to live. :-)

& gt;

& gt; Marc

& gt;