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puk replies - Neil I trust that you have seen my youtube vids on this

subject ie Plasma tv radiation mains and telecoms inducted, any way not all

plasma tvs are equal certainly the Pioneer one that is soft killing me and my

family and all those exposed daily to the emission is a bad bad bad one !

The AM radio simply gives you an audible manifestation of the signal, it is a

god send, look at it when you do not have your plasma on and if you have a

white noise hiss then think yourself lucky, the hiss is background

radiation, but any prolonged continuous sound must be treated with suspicion.

I

have sampled a sound recently via the AM radio which I will send to ,

I pick this up off my wiring some nights, but strangely I picked it up in

a remote location in Norway !! It sounds evil to me !! more on this, plus

British Telecom has recall comtrend broadband over power line plugs due to

their RFI noise, this has been relayed by the ammeter radio society of great

britain, the also report on Smar meters and emf interference from solar

panel systems concerning the inverters.

Think of yourself as a ham radio and you can learn a lot from these guys,

they of course steer well clear of any health issues relating to emf and ham

radio !!! fu....ing hypocrites !

puk

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Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:11 PM

Subject: AM radio

Can someone explain more the validity of using the AM radio to determine

the

EMF noise coming off a Plasma TV. I ask because mine is screaming off the

charts.

Thanks

Neil

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This radiation is what I call *dirty air*

It consists of frequencies in the kHz region.

So from 5 kHz up to 800 kHz, and sometimes even up to 10 MHz.

And an AM radio can pick up those signals.

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AM radio

Can someone explain more the validity of using the AM radio to determine the

EMF noise coming off a Plasma TV. I ask because mine is screaming off the

charts.

Thanks

Neil

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Hi Puk. Thanks for the info. My Plasma is a Vizio 60 inch. My AM radio goes

nuts with several high pitch and loud sounds when I turn it on. And I

noticed on mine it effects the Radio even 3-5 feet away. I plan on making a

quick film of mine and putting it on YouTube also.

Neil

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puk replies - Neil I trust that you have seen my youtube vids on this

subject ie Plasma tv radiation mains and telecoms inducted, any way not all

plasma tvs are equal certainly the Pioneer one that is soft killing me and

my

family and all those exposed daily to the emission is a bad bad bad one !

The AM radio simply gives you an audible manifestation of the signal, it is

a

god send, look at it when you do not have your plasma on and if you have a

white noise hiss then think yourself lucky, the hiss is background

radiation, but any prolonged continuous sound must be treated with

suspicion. I

have sampled a sound recently via the AM radio which I will send to ,

I pick this up off my wiring some nights, but strangely I picked it up in

a remote location in Norway !! It sounds evil to me !! more on this, plus

British Telecom has recall comtrend broadband over power line plugs due to

their RFI noise, this has been relayed by the ammeter radio society of great

britain, the also report on Smar meters and emf interference from solar

panel systems concerning the inverters.

Think of yourself as a ham radio and you can learn a lot from these guys,

they of course steer well clear of any health issues relating to emf and ham

radio !!! fu....ing hypocrites !

puk

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Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:11 PM

Subject: AM radio

Can someone explain more the validity of using the AM radio to determine

the

EMF noise coming off a Plasma TV. I ask because mine is screaming off the

charts.

Thanks

Neil

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hI NEIL, can you pick up the sound from the plasma 30m away from it or on

your walls, wires all conductive things in around the house ? I would say

that you would of course pick up noise fromn a TV that large if you were

within say 5 perhaps 10ms that's a given, but what about the latter does this

occur please let me know, if so you know what to do with the TV, as it will

be passively irradiating the whole neighbourhoud with LF spikey

frequencies.

puk

In a message dated 28/11/2010 00:39:55 GMT Standard Time,

ndrofca@... writes:

Hi Puk. Thanks for the info. My Plasma is a Vizio 60 inch. My AM radio goes

nuts with several high pitch and loud sounds when I turn it on. And I

noticed on mine it effects the Radio even 3-5 feet away. I plan on making a

quick film of mine and putting it on YouTube also.

Neil

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puk replies - Neil I trust that you have seen my youtube vids on this

subject ie Plasma tv radiation mains and telecoms inducted, any way not

all

plasma tvs are equal certainly the Pioneer one that is soft killing me and

my

family and all those exposed daily to the emission is a bad bad bad one !

The AM radio simply gives you an audible manifestation of the signal, it is

a

god send, look at it when you do not have your plasma on and if you have a

white noise hiss then think yourself lucky, the hiss is background

radiation, but any prolonged continuous sound must be treated with

suspicion. I

have sampled a sound recently via the AM radio which I will send to

,

I pick this up off my wiring some nights, but strangely I picked it up in

a remote location in Norway !! It sounds evil to me !! more on this, plus

British Telecom has recall comtrend broadband over power line plugs due to

their RFI noise, this has been relayed by the ammeter radio society of

great

britain, the also report on Smar meters and emf interference from solar

panel systems concerning the inverters.

Think of yourself as a ham radio and you can learn a lot from these guys,

they of course steer well clear of any health issues relating to emf and

ham

radio !!! fu....ing hypocrites !

puk

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Subject: AM radio

Can someone explain more the validity of using the AM radio to determine

the

EMF noise coming off a Plasma TV. I ask because mine is screaming off the

charts.

Thanks

Neil

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Hi , I’m no actor but I just placed my video results of using an AM radio

to detect EMF coming off Plasma and LCD monitor I have in my home. Feel free to

look and listen and temm me your thoughts. To me the noise alone says enough.

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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:37 AM

Subject: Re: AM radio

hI NEIL, can you pick up the sound from the plasma 30m away from it or on

your walls, wires all conductive things in around the house ? I would say

that you would of course pick up noise fromn a TV that large if you were

within say 5 perhaps 10ms that's a given, but what about the latter does this

occur please let me know, if so you know what to do with the TV, as it will

be passively irradiating the whole neighbourhoud with LF spikey

frequencies.

puk

In a message dated 28/11/2010 00:39:55 GMT Standard Time,

ndrofca@... <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> writes:

Hi Puk. Thanks for the info. My Plasma is a Vizio 60 inch. My AM radio goes

nuts with several high pitch and loud sounds when I turn it on. And I

noticed on mine it effects the Radio even 3-5 feet away. I plan on making a

quick film of mine and putting it on YouTube also.

Neil

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puk replies - Neil I trust that you have seen my youtube vids on this

subject ie Plasma tv radiation mains and telecoms inducted, any way not

all

plasma tvs are equal certainly the Pioneer one that is soft killing me and

my

family and all those exposed daily to the emission is a bad bad bad one !

The AM radio simply gives you an audible manifestation of the signal, it is

a

god send, look at it when you do not have your plasma on and if you have a

white noise hiss then think yourself lucky, the hiss is background

radiation, but any prolonged continuous sound must be treated with

suspicion. I

have sampled a sound recently via the AM radio which I will send to

,

I pick this up off my wiring some nights, but strangely I picked it up in

a remote location in Norway !! It sounds evil to me !! more on this, plus

British Telecom has recall comtrend broadband over power line plugs due to

their RFI noise, this has been relayed by the ammeter radio society of

great

britain, the also report on Smar meters and emf interference from solar

panel systems concerning the inverters.

Think of yourself as a ham radio and you can learn a lot from these guys,

they of course steer well clear of any health issues relating to emf and

ham

radio !!! fu....ing hypocrites !

puk

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Subject: AM radio

Can someone explain more the validity of using the AM radio to determine

the

EMF noise coming off a Plasma TV. I ask because mine is screaming off the

charts.

Thanks

Neil

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Hi neil, yes good vid, youtube is a good medium for this, but for veteran

essers like myself the revelation that any tv gives off RF and can be

picked up at close quarters with an AM radio is old news, what is more

significant is wether the TV is allowing RF to be conducted into the mains

wiring

(depends on circuit design and component quality etc) if it occurs you will

get what I have tried to demonstrate on my videos concerning a Pioneer 42

inch plasma TV 30m over the road. When this goes on you may as well sit on

top of the thing even though it is in another house over the road as all the

local wiring and telecoms re-radiates and conducts the signal escaping from

the TV and as you pointed out it seems to change with the picture changing

thus we have a very spikey biologically hazardous emission to deal with.

The plasma tvs operate at high voltage and in the unfortunate scenario as I

have, this gives a push to the signal !!!! basically all the wiring we

have and indeed you have will be acting as unintentional re-radiating

antennas, so be warned, the hairs and crystals in your ears are not infinate,

what

also of our fluid filled sack called eyes, and our fatty moist brains and

so on.

You should check wether the TV is doing what I said may be happening ie

check and see if you can pick up the noise on the radio say downstairs on

say a metal light fitting or a fishtank or your radiators or as per my vid,

the conductive plants in the garden !!

Aside this, there should be warnings on these TVS to advise on considerate

positioning of them as you can see now they give off masses of LF

radiowaves and these will travel through walls - think on this hyperthetically

imagine a couple on the other side of the dividing wall (less than 300mm thick)

sitting behind your TV, imagine worse still a baby in a metal cot on a

metal sprung matress, who may be lying close to the digital baby monitor and

its transformer - what a unlucky start in life hey...

In a message dated 29/11/2010 05:37:13 GMT Standard Time,

calicocat477@... writes:

Neil,

All I can say is Wow! Is it less w an LCD? What can we do about it? What

do you pick up

from electric in the house?

We tried a portable radio & it screamed in front of the computer screen. I

have to work on shielding.

Kathy

From: Neil R <_ndrofca@..._ (mailto:ndrofca@...) >

Subject: RE: AM radio

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Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 11:29 PM

Hi , I’m no actor but I just placed my video results of using an AM

radio to detect EMF coming off Plasma and LCD monitor I have in my home.

Feel free to look and listen and temm me your thoughts. To me the noise

alone says enough.

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Neil,

All I can say is Wow! Is it less w an LCD? What can we do about it? What do you

pick up

from electric in the house?

We tried a portable radio & it screamed in front of the computer screen. I have

to work on shielding.

Kathy

From: Neil R <ndrofca@...>

Subject: RE: AM radio

Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 11:29 PM

 

Hi , I’m no actor but I just placed my video results of using

an AM radio to detect EMF coming off Plasma and LCD monitor I have in my home.

Feel free to look and listen and temm me your thoughts. To me the noise alone

says enough.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

paulpjc@...

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:37 AM

Subject: Re: AM radio

hI NEIL, can you pick up the sound from the plasma 30m away from it or on

your walls, wires all conductive things in around the house ? I would say

that you would of course pick up noise fromn a TV that large if you were

within say 5 perhaps 10ms that's a given, but what about the latter does this

occur please let me know, if so you know what to do with the TV, as it will

be passively irradiating the whole neighbourhoud with LF spikey

frequencies.

puk

In a message dated 28/11/2010 00:39:55 GMT Standard Time,

ndrofca@... <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> writes:

Hi Puk. Thanks for the info. My Plasma is a Vizio 60 inch. My AM radio goes

nuts with several high pitch and loud sounds when I turn it on. And I

noticed on mine it effects the Radio even 3-5 feet away. I plan on making a

quick film of mine and putting it on YouTube also.

Neil

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Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:53 PM

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Subject: Re: AM radio

puk replies - Neil I trust that you have seen my youtube vids on this

subject ie Plasma tv radiation mains and telecoms inducted, any way not

all

plasma tvs are equal certainly the Pioneer one that is soft killing me and

my

family and all those exposed daily to the emission is a bad bad bad one !

The AM radio simply gives you an audible manifestation of the signal, it is

a

god send, look at it when you do not have your plasma on and if you have a

white noise hiss then think yourself lucky, the hiss is background

radiation, but any prolonged continuous sound must be treated with

suspicion. I

have sampled a sound recently via the AM radio which I will send to

,

I pick this up off my wiring some nights, but strangely I picked it up in

a remote location in Norway !! It sounds evil to me !! more on this, plus

British Telecom has recall comtrend broadband over power line plugs due to

their RFI noise, this has been relayed by the ammeter radio society of

great

britain, the also report on Smar meters and emf interference from solar

panel systems concerning the inverters.

Think of yourself as a ham radio and you can learn a lot from these guys,

they of course steer well clear of any health issues relating to emf and

ham

radio !!! fu....ing hypocrites !

puk

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Subject: AM radio

Can someone explain more the validity of using the AM radio to determine

the

EMF noise coming off a Plasma TV. I ask because mine is screaming off the

charts.

Thanks

Neil

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> Use an AM radio

Question:

An AM Radio is commonly recommended here as an alternative to an EMF meter.

An AM Radio receives signals from 500 - 1600 khz.

I'm wondering if there would be any advantage in seeking out a radio

that receives " longwave " broadcasts (150 - 300 khz), or " shortwave "

broadcasts (1700 - 30000 khz). Perhaps there are some harmful frequencies

that would be picked up by these radios that are not picked up by an AM Radio?

Marc

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For a while I had one. It picked up some things, but

usually I found using it in AM mode was sufficient.

I think for most sources, it's better to have as big a bandwidth

as possible. Cheaper radios usually have broader bandwidth.

I'm also starting to think, if you get to really big bandwidth,

you want to make sure the system is " phase linear " which

means only first order filters (The Ramsey ABM1 has incredible

18MHz bandwidth, but the filters are not first order so the bandwidth

is basically wasted unless you build it from the kit version and

bypass the filters).

The MFJ-856 has about 100kHz bandwidth, versus about 10kHz

for an AM radio, and I have reason to think it is phase linear.

There is also a version with a smaller nondirectional antenna

which LessEMF sells as the Power Line Noise Finder or something.

I think anyone who has $160 left after buying their microwave

meter should get one of these. A Tri-field meter is good to have

too, (with 100x external probe if you have low enough fields)

but for some people the MFJ-856 will be more important.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Marc <marc@...> wrote:

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>

> > Use an AM radio

>

> Question:

>

> An AM Radio is commonly recommended here as an alternative to an EMF meter.

> An AM Radio receives signals from 500 - 1600 khz.

>

> I'm wondering if there would be any advantage in seeking out a radio

> that receives " longwave " broadcasts (150 - 300 khz), or " shortwave "

> broadcasts (1700 - 30000 khz). Perhaps there are some harmful frequencies

> that would be picked up by these radios that are not picked up by an AM

> Radio?

>

> Marc

>

>

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Isn't the Stetzer filter in a working range of 4kHz to 100kHz so Isn't the AM

radio a bit out of range with its 500 - 1600 khz Marc ?

If you take a good feeling approach for filtering effectiveness maybe the narow

4kHz to 100kHz filtering capability of the stetzer arent enoughf ?

The RxDNA is approximately 5 Khz to 500 Khz in range ...maybe this does make a

difference for some !

The guy who prone me these one told me about his particular home condition and

the bad feeling he got with the Stetzer filter as they actually worsen the

problem (more EMF)and then install the RxDNA and had such a calm feeling after

installing them so that's why I was asking if they where really that good !

Anyway I have 2 old 70's hand held 9V AM radio ... Im gonna make some more test

to try this theory :)

>

> >

> >

> > > Use an AM radio

> >

> > Question:

> >

> > An AM Radio is commonly recommended here as an alternative to an EMF meter.

> > An AM Radio receives signals from 500 - 1600 khz.

> >

> > I'm wondering if there would be any advantage in seeking out a radio

> > that receives " longwave " broadcasts (150 - 300 khz), or " shortwave "

> > broadcasts (1700 - 30000 khz). Perhaps there are some harmful frequencies

> > that would be picked up by these radios that are not picked up by an AM

> > Radio?

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

>

>

>

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An HP Network Analyzer would be cool-- probably too expensive, though:

http://www.dxengineering.com/TechArticles.asp?ID={1D9AAC83-E591-46D4-86AE-B84F1C\

BF1D62}

Check youtube for lots of videos about plasma TV RFI. Ham radio operators

notice.

>

> >

> >

> > > Use an AM radio

> >

> > Question:

> >

> > An AM Radio is commonly recommended here as an alternative to an EMF meter.

> > An AM Radio receives signals from 500 - 1600 khz.

> >

> > I'm wondering if there would be any advantage in seeking out a radio

> > that receives " longwave " broadcasts (150 - 300 khz), or " shortwave "

> > broadcasts (1700 - 30000 khz). Perhaps there are some harmful frequencies

> > that would be picked up by these radios that are not picked up by an AM

> > Radio?

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

>

>

>

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The AM radio will pick up harmonics emited by the filters - puk

In a message dated 15/01/2011 07:28:13 GMT Standard Time,

marc@... writes:

Isn't the Stetzer filter in a working range of 4kHz to 100kHz so Isn't

> the AM radio a bit out of range with its 500 - 1600 khz Marc ?

Only if one is using an AM radio to test Stetzer filters... :-)

I'm more interested in using AM radios to test unfiltered electronics.

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> Isn't the Stetzer filter in a working range of 4kHz to 100kHz so Isn't

> the AM radio a bit out of range with its 500 - 1600 khz Marc ?

Only if one is using an AM radio to test Stetzer filters... :-)

I'm more interested in using AM radios to test unfiltered electronics.

> The RxDNA is approximately 5 Khz to 500 Khz in range ...maybe this does

> make a difference for some !

Hmmm, I've got a filter which has a far greater range than the Stetzerizer

filter, but it makes me feel worse in the same way as the Stetzer filter.

So there's more to it than simply frequency range -- I just don't

seem to do well with the parallel capacitor shunt filters.

> The guy who prone me these one told me about his particular home

> condition and the bad feeling he got with the Stetzer filter as they

> actually worsen the problem (more EMF)and then install the RxDNA and had

> such a calm feeling after installing them so that's why I was asking if

> they where really that good !

See, now that's a more interesting testimony -- someone who felt

bad from the Stetzer filter but better with the RxDNA.

(I've got some " Noise Harvesters " from PS Audio, which

turn noise into light instead of heat, but never noticed any

improvement from these)

Marc

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>

> > Isn't the Stetzer filter in a working range of 4kHz to 100kHz so Isn't

> > the AM radio a bit out of range with its 500 - 1600 khz Marc ?

>

> Only if one is using an AM radio to test Stetzer filters... :-)

> I'm more interested in using AM radios to test unfiltered electronics.

>

> > The RxDNA is approximately 5 Khz to 500 Khz in range ...maybe this does

> > make a difference for some !

>

> Hmmm, I've got a filter which has a far greater range than the Stetzerizer

> filter, but it makes me feel worse in the same way as the Stetzer filter.

> So there's more to it than simply frequency range -- I just don't

> seem to do well with the parallel capacitor shunt filters.

Well are all the devices you tried an kinna fail your testing all base on

Capacitor storing,filtering or converting to good energy ?

This seems to be the problem so far ...

>

> > The guy who prone me these one told me about his particular home

> > condition and the bad feeling he got with the Stetzer filter as they

> > actually worsen the problem (more EMF)and then install the RxDNA and had

> > such a calm feeling after installing them so that's why I was asking if

> > they where really that good !

>

> See, now that's a more interesting testimony -- someone who felt

> bad from the Stetzer filter but better with the RxDNA.

>

> (I've got some " Noise Harvesters " from PS Audio, which

> turn noise into light instead of heat, but never noticed any

> improvement from these)

Are these units also have a capacitor system to store and then burn (in a way of

saying it)the extra into light ?

If the light flash it should be store till enough then discharge the capacitor

into a flash of light!

>

> Marc

>

Funny what you can do with energy ...

I use to test a tiny radiant energy device that with only 30 milliamps DC ,I can

load a big capacitor by capturing the energy spikes with it up to 200-300 Volts

and made a heck of a snap when discharging it !

The capacitor or a lead battery is able to store and change that useless to

mankind energy to useful one but Is the process EMF free ?

So I'm am wondering with all the spikes of energy in the wiring how can a tiny

led light do much good as can it burn all that energy with just one unit ????

Yes maybe with 20 or 30 units ???...Correct me if I'm wrong !

But is the processing EMF free ?

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What are harmonics?  Loni

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Subject: Re: Re: AM radio

Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 3:38 AM

 

The AM radio will pick up harmonics emited by the filters - puk

In a message dated 15/01/2011 07:28:13 GMT Standard Time,

marc@... writes:

Isn't the Stetzer filter in a working range of 4kHz to 100kHz so Isn't

> the AM radio a bit out of range with its 500 - 1600 khz Marc ?

Only if one is using an AM radio to test Stetzer filters... :-)

I'm more interested in using AM radios to test unfiltered electronics.

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By harmonics is meant the integer multiples of 60 Hz, where 60 Hz = 60 cycles

per second.

Thus,

* 120Hz is the 2nd harmonic on the 60 Hz system, and

* 180 Hz is the 3rd harmonic on the 60 Hz system, etc.

It's also used analogously as a a musical term. You can see what it might look

like pictorially at

http://library.thinkquest.org/C005705/English/sound/sound5.htm

>

>

> From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: AM radio

>

> Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 3:38 AM

> The AM radio will pick up harmonics emited by the filters - puk

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