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look at magdahavas.org or environmental health trust

Next-up.org or electrosensitivity.uk

Australia is putting out some good independent studies on cell phone

dangers etc, are you sure that they do not recognise ES ?

Any how keep your living simple on the technology front, buy a meter such

as an electrosmog detector, triefeild meter or acousticom to check out your

living spaces, but dont go mad with the meters.

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In a message dated 18/04/2011 14:45:38 GMT Daylight Time,

mscherrylane@... writes:

Hi from Oz!

I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so

bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting

electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut

the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not

great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal society

although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a wired

mouse and keyboard :)

Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal

recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other

useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as

I'd

like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any

other suggestions you might have.

Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail

with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware of

any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

Thanks so much!

Cheers,

Zoe

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Also from Oz!

There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES

is not recognised here.

In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to

tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.

The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart

from the odd story.

Kind Regards,

Helen

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe

<mscherrylane@...>wrote:

>

>

> Hi from Oz!

>

> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so

> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting

> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut

> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not

> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal

> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a

> wired mouse and keyboard :)

>

> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal

> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other

> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as

> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

>

> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any

> other suggestions you might have.

>

> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail

> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware

> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

>

> Thanks so much!

>

> Cheers,

> Zoe

>

>

>

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Environomics.com.au <http://environomics.com.au/>

0448 877 384

03 9376 6338

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Hi Zoe,

electromagneticzoe wrote:

> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society without

feeling so ill so quickly!

I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding

high-tech emitting toys.

And you still have to avoid public places, so having ES is a disaster

for social-oriented extroverts.

So says the introvert with a couple horses for friends :)

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Where is Oz?

>

>

> Hi from Oz!

>

> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so

> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting

> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut

> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not

> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal

> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a

> wired mouse and keyboard :)

>

> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal

> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other

> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as

> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

>

> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any

> other suggestions you might have.

>

> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail

> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware

> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

>

> Thanks so much!

>

> Cheers,

> Zoe

>

>

>

--

Helen A

Environomics.com.au <http://environomics.com.au/>

0448 877 384

03 9376 6338

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> > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

>> without feeling so ill so quickly!

>

> I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding

> high-tech emitting toys.

Well, if one is able to successfully cure themselves of ES (as some

people have), then they shouldn't have a problem being surrounding

by people with smart phones, etc.

The most common cure for ES that I've seen so far is successfully

completing a heavy-metal detox, with mercury being a likely suspect.

Marc

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Grin, Oz is the Australian abbreviation for Australia. We call ourselves

Aussies, or Ozzies. It has nothing to do with the famous Wizard.:-)

Rixta

> Where is Oz?

>

>

>

>>

>> Hi from Oz!

>>

>> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so

>> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting

>> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut

>> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not

>> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal

>> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a

>> wired mouse and keyboard :)

>>

>> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

>> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal

>> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other

>> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as

>> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

>>

>> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any

>> other suggestions you might have.

>>

>> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail

>> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware

>> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

>>

>> Thanks so much!

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Zoe

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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Double Grin, just a guess...Loni...American? ;)

Maybe some of us do have magical powers though ;)...well that's how it looks

when you are holding so much charge(?) in your hands that when you try and stuff

a beanbag all the beans fly far in the opposite direction!!! *sigh

> >

> >>

> >> Hi from Oz!

> >>

> >> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so

> >> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting

> >> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut

> >> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not

> >> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal

> >> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a

> >> wired mouse and keyboard :)

> >>

> >> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

> >> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any

personal

> >> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other

> >> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc

etc...as

> >> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

> >>

> >> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any

> >> other suggestions you might have.

> >>

> >> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail

> >> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware

> >> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

> >>

> >> Thanks so much!

> >>

> >> Cheers,

> >> Zoe

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

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> Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis

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not to mention can you believe the lack of emf level regulation here? Sweden and

Russia safety limits are soooo low compared to ours. I spoke to an american

college graduate who had written his thesis on the matter and apparently the way

they calculate regulation safety levels is by population density which of course

is so idiotic since everyone lives on the coast and the vast centre of our

country is so empty nad laregely unliveable!

>

> >

> >

> > Hi from Oz!

> >

> > I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so

> > bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting

> > electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut

> > the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not

> > great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal

> > society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a

> > wired mouse and keyboard :)

> >

> > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

> > without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal

> > recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other

> > useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as

> > I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

> >

> > Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any

> > other suggestions you might have.

> >

> > Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail

> > with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware

> > of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

> >

> > Thanks so much!

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Zoe

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Helen A

>

> Environomics.com.au <http://environomics.com.au/>

> 0448 877 384

> 03 9376 6338

>

>

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hey I talk to my plants ;)

no the issue I'm more worried about is how does one make a living with ehs since

most ways to earn one involve being able to integrate with normal society, use

emf radiating equipment etc...the way I am going seems like that infamous

pioneer of EHS, the Swede Per Segerback!!! Who has to bury his electricity

cables 30m from his house...But at least he is an engineer and knows how to do

it, plus he gets support from his country!

> > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society without

feeling so ill so quickly!

>

> I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding

> high-tech emitting toys.

>

> And you still have to avoid public places, so having ES is a disaster

> for social-oriented extroverts.

>

>

> So says the introvert with a couple horses for friends :)

>

>

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Um, nope, never heard of that show! My name is cos I am the realdeal :P...I have

even caused weekly power surges in places where the residents had it happen just

twice in 7 years...

>

> You took your name from Tin Man, that was a really good sci-fi show. Is it in

Austrailia?

>

> Maureen

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Thanks for that. That's a very likely factor for me. I'm going to arrange to be

tested as soon as I can find somewhere in this country where I can get one

done!!! I have heard of certain " foods " like zeolite which help detoxify heavy

metals- if you or anyone has used this with success could you please let me

know? I have also heard that zeolite is snake oil...but if I do test full of

heavy metals I will probably try to rectify with appropriate foods...

>

> > > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

> >> without feeling so ill so quickly!

> >

> > I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding

> > high-tech emitting toys.

>

> Well, if one is able to successfully cure themselves of ES (as some

> people have), then they shouldn't have a problem being surrounding

> by people with smart phones, etc.

>

> The most common cure for ES that I've seen so far is successfully

> completing a heavy-metal detox, with mercury being a likely suspect.

>

> Marc

>

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You might see if EMR Australia can do anything for you.

They have a good newsletter:

http://www.emraustralia.com.au/

L.

>> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any other

suggestions you might have.

>

> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail with

me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware of any

support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

>

> Thanks so much!

>

> Cheers,

> Zoe

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Hi, Zoe and ,

 

I agree, .  However, I do find some companionship doing some things like

bike riding, going hiking, picnicing in nature, and gardening.....  If I were

younger (I am 60), I would do more sports activities like white water rafting,

kiyacking, join an outdoor yoga group, team sports out doors....  But I found

it easiest to join an art club (which paints outdoors in summer), a gardening

group, and the like.  Once I made friends in the groups, they usually would

turn their cell phones off if they were bothering me. 

 

Right now, I am too preoccupied with family needs to be active in anything or

even keep up with my online friends!  (Of which I have many great and lasting

friendships.)  BTW, I also have dietary restrictions which limit my

friendships--I can only feed my friends, we cannot go out to a restaurant or

they cannot cook for me.  So, it is doable, but you have to really think

outside the box.

 

Good luck, Zoe.  If I were not up to my eyeballs in alligators, right now, I

would welcome your friendship and snail mail. 

Diane

> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society without

feeling so ill so quickly!

I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding

high-tech emitting toys.

And you still have to avoid public places, so having ES is a disaster

for social-oriented extroverts.

So says the introvert with a couple horses for friends :)

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