Re: Why am I not recovering at the off-grid cabin?

[Guest guest]

I would make sure the phone line is not grounded

or grounded only through a spark gap for lightning protection.

See if the magnetic field is higher near the ground rod for

the phone if there is one. Any antennas nearby or chemical

fumes?

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...>wrote:

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> Salut, all. I'm not getting much recovery at all since the Smart Meter

> exposure in March. It feels a lot like what ppl describe as MS. Anyway, 2

> possible contributing factors:

>

> 1) I live in a tiny, 1-room cabin w/ a little loft/attic where I sleep.

> The boat battery used for the solar is only about 20 feet from me, & altho I

> turn everything off at nite (main disconnects, DC array collecting power

> from panel & charging battery w/ it), maybe I'm still getting fx from it

> when I sleep somehow?

>

> 2)The other factor is that I have a landline there. The owners installed it

> themselves, & it runs from the bottom of the hill, mounted along trees all

> the way up the hill, then runs across the cabin, underneath my bed. I can be

> pretty close to regular (non-hi-transmission) power lines w/o much of a

> problem, so I'm guessing it's the battery that's more of a problem, but

> don't have a way to tell which it is.

>

> I noticed today that I don't feel so much intense burning, nausea &

> dizziness when I go to the bottom of the hill & sleep in my car. But then

> that confuses me, b/c there's a battery of similar power in my car, altho

> since it's surrounded by metal parts, maybe I'm protected from it? Others

> have mentioned being bothered by the solar panel itself. I just thought if

> you turn off whatever distributes power from the panel to the battery, that

> the panel is just " inert " , & so is the battery. Am I wrong? I was thinking

> of covering the battery in thick tinfoil, or getting a Faraday canopy, but I

> can't afford the canopy & have also heard others mentioning that shielding

> fabrics just make things worse? Advice/suggestions welcome.

>

> Love & blessings,

> E. Drew

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bill. How would I tell if the phone line is grounded? (i.e. where would

I look) and how would I ground it myself if it weren't grounded? Also, what is a

spark gap? And what kind of antennas should I be looking for? I know there's a

cell tower about a mile away, & that everyone in this town has satellite TV, but

i'm  not sure what else could be going on. The phone line was put in by the

power company originally, but they only agreed to bring it as far as the bottom

of the hill, then the owners of the cabin got their own cable & continued it

from there.

>

>

> Salut, all. I'm not getting much recovery at all since the Smart Meter

> exposure in March. It feels a lot like what ppl describe as MS. Anyway, 2

> possible contributing factors:

>

> 1) I live in a  tiny, 1-room cabin w/ a little loft/attic where I sleep.

> The boat battery used for the solar is only about 20 feet from me, & altho I

> turn everything off at nite (main disconnects, DC array collecting power

> from panel & charging battery w/ it), maybe I'm still getting fx from it

> when I sleep somehow?

>

> 2)The other factor is that I have a landline there. The owners installed it

> themselves, & it runs from the bottom of the hill, mounted along trees all

> the way up the hill, then runs across the cabin, underneath my bed. I can be

> pretty close to regular (non-hi-transmission) power lines w/o much of a

> problem, so I'm guessing it's the battery that's more of a problem, but

> don't have a way to tell which it is.

>

> I noticed today that I don't feel so much intense burning, nausea &

> dizziness when I go to the bottom of the hill & sleep in my car. But then

> that confuses me, b/c there's a battery of similar power in my car, altho

> since it's surrounded by metal parts, maybe I'm protected from it? Others

> have mentioned being bothered by the solar panel itself. I just thought if

> you turn off whatever distributes power from the panel to the battery, that

> the panel is just " inert " , & so is the battery. Am I wrong? I was thinking

> of covering the battery in thick tinfoil, or getting a Faraday canopy, but I

> can't afford the canopy & have also heard others mentioning that shielding

> fabrics just make things worse? Advice/suggestions welcome.

>

> Love & blessings,

> E. Drew

>

>

[Guest guest]

Look where it enters the house.

It's possible to react to a cell tower a mile away.

Try metal screen and foil on that wall?

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...>wrote:

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> Thanks, Bill. How would I tell if the phone line is grounded? (i.e. where

> would I look) and how would I ground it myself if it weren't grounded? Also,

> what is a spark gap? And what kind of antennas should I be looking for? I

> know there's a cell tower about a mile away, & that everyone in this town

> has satellite TV, but i'm not sure what else could be going on. The phone

> line was put in by the power company originally, but they only agreed to

> bring it as far as the bottom of the hill, then the owners of the cabin got

> their own cable & continued it from there.

>

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> >

> > Salut, all. I'm not getting much recovery at all since the Smart Meter

> > exposure in March. It feels a lot like what ppl describe as MS. Anyway, 2

> > possible contributing factors:

> >

> > 1) I live in a tiny, 1-room cabin w/ a little loft/attic where I sleep.

> > The boat battery used for the solar is only about 20 feet from me, &

> altho I

> > turn everything off at nite (main disconnects, DC array collecting power

> > from panel & charging battery w/ it), maybe I'm still getting fx from it

> > when I sleep somehow?

> >

> > 2)The other factor is that I have a landline there. The owners installed

> it

> > themselves, & it runs from the bottom of the hill, mounted along trees

> all

> > the way up the hill, then runs across the cabin, underneath my bed. I can

> be

> > pretty close to regular (non-hi-transmission) power lines w/o much of a

> > problem, so I'm guessing it's the battery that's more of a problem, but

> > don't have a way to tell which it is.

> >

> > I noticed today that I don't feel so much intense burning, nausea &

> > dizziness when I go to the bottom of the hill & sleep in my car. But then

> > that confuses me, b/c there's a battery of similar power in my car, altho

> > since it's surrounded by metal parts, maybe I'm protected from it? Others

> > have mentioned being bothered by the solar panel itself. I just thought

> if

> > you turn off whatever distributes power from the panel to the battery,

> that

> > the panel is just " inert " , & so is the battery. Am I wrong? I was

> thinking

> > of covering the battery in thick tinfoil, or getting a Faraday canopy,

> but I

> > can't afford the canopy & have also heard others mentioning that

> shielding

> > fabrics just make things worse? Advice/suggestions welcome.

> >

> > Love & blessings,

> > E. Drew

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You say that you feel better at the bottom of the hill. Does the hill obscure

line of sight from the celltower when you are at the bottom of it. As mentioned

above, if you're ES, strong reactions at 1 mile distance are very possible.

Peace x

[Guest guest]

Sounds like your problem is low frequency dirty power, this could be coming

from your phone line, you need to isolate that from your living space, the

location of you cabin may be suffering from multiple problems, when you

use fabrics and it make matters worse this says to me that LF RF is a problem

this comes off cell phone waves and so on so the tower issue is also

viable problem. Have you tried checking with an AM radio, that said not all AM

radios are that good at receiving interference some have better build

quality than others so you have to find one that low imunity to interfernce, ie

get as many as you can and try them out until you find a good one, I buy

them at car boot sales whenever I see them.

puk

In a message dated 20/04/2011 23:03:53 GMT Daylight Time, wbruno@...

writes:

Look where it enters the house.

It's possible to react to a cell tower a mile away.

Try metal screen and foil on that wall?

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Elysia Drew

<necessejamais@...>wrote:

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> Thanks, Bill. How would I tell if the phone line is grounded? (i.e. where

> would I look) and how would I ground it myself if it weren't grounded?

Also,

> what is a spark gap? And what kind of antennas should I be looking for? I

> know there's a cell tower about a mile away, & that everyone in this town

> has satellite TV, but i'm not sure what else could be going on. The

phone

> line was put in by the power company originally, but they only agreed to

> bring it as far as the bottom of the hill, then the owners of the cabin

got

> their own cable & continued it from there.

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Salut, all. I'm not getting much recovery at all since the Smart Meter

> > exposure in March. It feels a lot like what ppl describe as MS.

Anyway, 2

> > possible contributing factors:

> >

> > 1) I live in a tiny, 1-room cabin w/ a little loft/attic where I

sleep.

> > The boat battery used for the solar is only about 20 feet from me, &

> altho I

> > turn everything off at nite (main disconnects, DC array collecting

power

> > from panel & charging battery w/ it), maybe I'm still getting fx from

it

> > when I sleep somehow?

> >

> > 2)The other factor is that I have a landline there. The owners

installed

> it

> > themselves, & it runs from the bottom of the hill, mounted along trees

> all

> > the way up the hill, then runs across the cabin, underneath my bed. I

can

> be

> > pretty close to regular (non-hi-transmission) power lines w/o much of a

> > problem, so I'm guessing it's the battery that's more of a problem, but

> > don't have a way to tell which it is.

> >

> > I noticed today that I don't feel so much intense burning, nausea &

> > dizziness when I go to the bottom of the hill & sleep in my car. But

then

> > that confuses me, b/c there's a battery of similar power in my car,

altho

> > since it's surrounded by metal parts, maybe I'm protected from it?

Others

> > have mentioned being bothered by the solar panel itself. I just thought

> if

> > you turn off whatever distributes power from the panel to the battery,

> that

> > the panel is just " inert " , & so is the battery. Am I wrong? I was

> thinking

> > of covering the battery in thick tinfoil, or getting a Faraday canopy,

> but I

> > can't afford the canopy & have also heard others mentioning that

> shielding

> > fabrics just make things worse? Advice/suggestions welcome.

> >

> > Love & blessings,

> > E. Drew

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[Guest guest]

The demons will follow you. Give it

some time and perhaps you'll eventually

recover. When I went camping at Green Bank,

WV I still had all of my symptoms. Silly me

thought they would vanish overnight.

Though the RF was very low, there was

a lot of recovering required from the long

drive, and years of exposure to unwind.

Besides there was still driving to scout

the place. The power lines on the road

averaged 3-5 milli gauss - bummer.

Eli

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> Salut, all. I'm not getting much recovery at all since the Smart Meter

exposure in March. It feels a lot like what ppl describe as MS. Anyway, 2

possible contributing factors:

>

> 1) I live in a  tiny, 1-room cabin w/ a little loft/attic where I sleep. The

boat battery used for the solar is only about 20 feet from me, & altho I turn

everything off at nite (main disconnects, DC array collecting power from panel &

charging battery w/ it), maybe I'm still getting fx from it when I sleep

somehow?

>

> 2)The other factor is that I have a landline there. The owners installed it

themselves, & it runs from the bottom of the hill, mounted along trees all the

way up the hill, then runs across the cabin, underneath my bed. I can be pretty

close to regular (non-hi-transmission) power lines w/o much of a problem, so I'm

guessing it's the battery that's more of a problem, but don't have a way to tell

which it is.

>

> I noticed today that I don't feel so much intense burning, nausea & dizziness

when I go to the bottom of the hill & sleep in my car. But then that confuses

me, b/c there's a battery of similar power in my car, altho since it's

surrounded by metal parts, maybe I'm protected from it? Others have mentioned

being bothered by the solar panel itself. I just thought if you turn off

whatever distributes power from the panel to the battery, that the panel is just

" inert " , & so is the battery. Am I wrong? I was thinking of covering the battery

in thick tinfoil, or getting a Faraday canopy, but I can't afford the canopy &

have also heard others mentioning that shielding fabrics just make things worse?

Advice/suggestions welcome.

>

> Love & blessings,

> E. Drew

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elysia Drew wrote:

> I know there's a cell tower about a mile away

Aha, that might be the key, especially if you sleep better DOWN the

hill, where reception is worse.

As for the battery, yes I react to batteries hooked up to nothing, but

at 20 ft. away, I would tend to say it is something else.

[Guest guest]

Off-grid systems that involve an inverter have terribly dirty electricity, as

the invertor creates it.

I plugged in several Stetzer filters at an off-grid place and had to pull them

out pronto. The filters were so overworked trying to destroy the strange

waveforms the inverter was creating that they were screaming. And the inverter

system was beginning to smell like hot plastic. These folks had built a " green "

straw bale home and had no idea what a toxic home they lived in. BTW, their cat

had leukemia.

Even without an inverter, there can be equipment involved that's creating

harmful frequencies. A friend of mine is working on going off-grid, as We

Energies is about to turn off her power bcause she wpuld not accept their

RF-broadcasting meter. She has worked very hard to put together a DC solar

system that does not create harmful frequencies but has run into problems as

some components that were supposed to be able to work without creating

frequencies do create harmful freuencies. This is Kleiber of

www.electricalpollution.com. She can tell you which components have been the

offenders.

Shivani Arjuna

www.LifeEnergies.com

[Guest guest]

I get stinging on my face when near car batteries !

In a message dated 21/04/2011 23:20:24 GMT Daylight Time,

sandreas41@... writes:

Elysia Drew wrote:

> I know there's a cell tower about a mile away

Aha, that might be the key, especially if you sleep better DOWN the

hill, where reception is worse.

As for the battery, yes I react to batteries hooked up to nothing, but

at 20 ft. away, I would tend to say it is something else.

[Guest guest]

Did you say 1 hour of cell phone use?

Was that in one sitting?

No wonder your feeling horrible.

That's way, way too long. Cell phones should

be used for just a few seconds in case of

emergency, or text instead.

Eli

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> From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Why am I not recovering at the off-grid cabin?

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> Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 4:55 AM

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> bottom of the hill, I'd be closer to that. I wish I could say I can just

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> choose my poison, but all of it feels like varying levels of torture, &

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> knowing that this is happening b/c of basic human greed & that all the EHSers

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> efforts to stop it are being ignored, is really psychologically damaging

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[Guest guest]

Well said. If we didn't know the cause of our symptoms, we would probably find

more sympathy, but because we know the cause, and people don't relate, we find

ridicule instead.

As the problem goes global, it should be easier to make people understand. Show

them some youtube videos from Japan, Germany, Canada, etc. of people with EHS.

E.g.,

http://ameblo.jp/kitakamakurakeitaing/entry-10592001752.html

http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/ehs.php

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cellphone, perhaps b/c the tower is so powerful (even tho. it's probably a

little over a mile away). After 1hr. of cellphone use,

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> > problem, while being resented for being sick, even by those they most care

about. My family is upset with me for wanting to give up, but they don't realize

I want to give up b/c they keep ridiculing me

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> Showing more empathy and love for fellow man is the greatest commandment.

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pesticides, mold & Smart Meters, there's no safe place I can work & I'm too sick

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