Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 There may be people who can gain weight on 1200 calories a day, but to say that people on 1200 calories a day gaining weight has caused the obesity problem not acccurate. My personal experience with people is that they do misrepresent the amount of calories they eat and/or have no clue to how many calories they consume each day. But, when you begin to work with them or have them carefully track their calories, 2 things usually happen; being accountable, they eat less, and being accountable they become more honest. Somehow they " forget " about that bag of chips or chocolate cake they eat and dont report it. There are also other changes that may happen short term, that appear as weight loss, or weight gain that may appear to violate the lawa of physics, but are due to measurable changes in fluid volumes, glycogen stores, salt intake or fiber amounts. One example is ....if 2 people consuming typical diets try to lose weight, and they both do it by reducing calories equally, but one also cuts out all carbs, while the other doesn't, the one cutting out all carbs can lose an extra 4 or so pounds from glycogen and water losses. With portions sizes growing and hidden fats and sugars in lots of foods, caloric values and caloric density of foods have risen. In the National Weight Control Registry, there are now over 4000 subjects who have documented weight loss. The average weight loss is 65#s, maintained for ~6 years. Prior to their weightloss, the average BMI was 35, and now is 26. The average caloric intake is 1382 Calories (1725 Men, 1300 Women). On macronutrient ratios... in these studies below, changing macronutrient ratios from very high carb to very low carb had no effect on weight as long as caloric intake was maintained steady.. Diets, metabolism etc were carefully monitored. Jeff Diet composition and energy balance in humans.Am J Clin Nutr 1998 Mar;67(3 Suppl):551S-555S Hirsch J, Hudgins LC, Leibel RL, Rosenbaum M. Inpatient metabolic studies of human subjects were performed to obtain data on important nutritional issues. It was shown that wide variations in the ratio of carbohydrate to fat do not alter total 24-h energy need. Studies of the fatty acid composition of plasma low-density lipoproteins during low-fat feeding indicated that there can be considerable lipogenesis from carbohydrate in humans during isoenergetic feeding. The energy cost of this conversion must be small or be counterbalanced by other changes in energy metabolism because measured energy need was unaltered by fat-to-carbohydrate ratios. Energy need was, however, markedly varied by changes in body weight. Subjects at their usual body weights who had experimentally induced increases in body weight became inefficient and required a higher energy intake for weight maintenance. The reverse occurred with a reduction in body weight. The set point at which energy storage is defended is clearly different in obese persons. Energy intake required to maintain body weight is not affected by wide variation in diet composition. Am J Clin Nutr. 1992 Feb;55(2):350-5. Leibel RL, Hirsch J, Appel BE, Checani GC Diets rich in fat may promote obesity by leading to a greater deposition of adipose-tissue triglycerides than do isoenergetic diets with less fat. This possibility was examined by a retrospective analysis of the energy needs of 16 human subjects (13 adults, 3 children) fed liquid diets of precisely known composition with widely varied fat content, for 15-56 d (33 +/- 2 d, mean +/- SE). Subjects lived in a metabolic ward and received fluid formulas with different fat and carbohydrate content, physical activity was kept constant, and precise data were available on energy intake and daily body weight. Isoenergetic formulas contained various percentages of carbohydrate as cerelose (low, 15%; intermediate, 40% or 45%; high, 75%, 80%, or 85%), a constant 15% of energy as protein (as milk protein), and the balance of energy as fat (as corn oil). Even with extreme changes in the fat-carbohydrate ratio (fat energy varied from 0% to 70% of total intake), there was no detectable evidence of significant variation in energy need as a function of percentage fat intake Nutrient balance in humans: effects of diet composition. Am J Clin Nutr. 1991 Jul;54(1):10-7. Hill JO, s JC, GW, Schlundt DG, Sharp T, Greene HL. The purpose of this study was to examine the effect of alterations in diet composition on energy expenditure and nutrient balance in humans. Eight adults (three men, five women) ate a high-carbohydrate (60% of calories from carbohydrate) and a high-fat (60% of calories from fat) diet for 7 d each according to a randomized, crossover design. Six subjects were studied for an additional week on a mixed diet (45% of calories from fat). For each subject, total caloric intake was identical on all diets and was intended to provide the subject's maintenance energy requirements. All subjects spent days 3 and 7 of each week in a whole-room indirect calorimeter. Diet composition did not affect total daily energy expenditure but did affect daily nutrient oxidation by rapidly shifting substrate oxidation to more closely reflect the composition of the diet. These results show that diet composition can affect substrate oxidation without producing measurable effects on total energy expenditure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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