WW 2 Concentration camp survivors

[Guest guest]

There is the 60th Anniversary of D Day going on right now in

France and on UK satellite TV ' I'm seeing many programs

dealing with that war. There have been interviews of the inmates

of those concentration camps and these people are in their 80's.

I'm wondering what we can learn about CR from them. They

certainly were on severe CR - some for a number of years. Have

any studies been done on these people.

Canary Peg

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Pleaed see:

http://www.freedomsite.org/pipermail/fs_announce/2000/000203.html

" -Professor Norman Finkelstein rejoicing in a September 27 posting on

the

Internet on learning of the extraordinary longevity of Holocaust

survivors

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http://washingtonpost.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?

pagename=w

pni/print & articleid=A54092-2000Sep21 "

Cheers, Al Pater.

--- In , " Peg Diamond " <enmuffins@y...>

wrote:

> There is the 60th Anniversary of D Day going on right now in

> France and on UK satellite TV ' I'm seeing many programs

> dealing with that war. There have been interviews of the inmates

> of those concentration camps and these people are in their 80's.

> I'm wondering what we can learn about CR from them. They

> certainly were on severe CR - some for a number of years. Have

> any studies been done on these people.

>

> Canary Peg

[Guest guest]

I don't find the tentative comparison between temporary, though

often years-long, starvation and malnutrition (which most people

DIDN'T survive, BTW) and a permanent lifestyle changeover to caloric

restriction program with optimal nutrition (which is NOT starvation

and malnutrition) to be a valid one. Furthermore, who's to say that

they don't eat whatever they feel like eating now, and who's to say

that some of them don't overeat?

I hate to say it, but this is how the post sounded to me:

Gosh, SOME of those people who were starved, tortured, and

overworked for years are now in their 80s! That's wonderful news,

and maybe we can glean some information from their experiences that

we can use for our own CR programs!

MAYBE, just MAYBE, those folks had/have an especially strong will-to-

survive, and that's why they're still alive? Maybe it has nothing

whatsoever to do with having been starved for a period of time?

After all, people were trying to KILL them, and the murderers were

successful in most cases.