Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Where do you live? I know a few people in different areas of the US. Christy Sloan > --- HOUSE PLANS > From: " iedbunnie " <iedbunnie@...> > Date: Thu, January 03, 2008 11:56 am > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > ETC? > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > CONDITION? > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > iRENE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 We moved into a different house last year and it has worked fine. The key things that helped us were: - House is detached, no neighbours through adjoining walls/floors (easier in US than UK, or rural rather than town) - No masts etc nearby or in a direct line (especially shining through windows - if this is unavoidable, use metallic net curtains) - Check where the main power wires run in the walls and avoid sitting near them; also beware the short range electric/magnetic fields from some light switches, dimmers, wall thermostats, gas boilers etc - The biggest single benefit for us; having a new fuse box with separately wired circuits. Now we can turn off the power in all of the house at night with a flick of a switch. Alternatively we can turn off most of it but leave an outside storeroom on power to run a fridge/freezer. There are things like black metallic shielding paint for walls available, but we have been able to manage without this. Having the power off at night has given Sue the sleep she needed to strengthen her body to cope. As usual, it depends on what things particularly affect you and in what way. Ian _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of iedbunnie Sent: 03 January 2008 19:57 Subject: HOUSE PLANS WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC HYPERSENSITIVITY. IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION ETC? IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY CONDITION? IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE iRENE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 From what I've read, the first thing is to try to find a site with no ground currents. A very sensitive AC gaussmeter can help. Putting all the wiring in smooth metal conduit seems like a good idea. You get some shielding and can also upgrade the wires, twist the wires, etc. LessEMF sells special wires. I would try to have the electric meter installed in a separate building (like a garage) ideally with a separate foundation, and grounded to the rebar in that foundation, and done in such away that it's accessible in case you want to ground it differently in the future. The rebar should all be connected metal to metal. In the main house I'd also want access to the rebar in the foundation (ie a stub coming out where it's accessible). Probably want to have some pvc pipe to isolate the plumbing from the water supply. Make sure the electrician understands the evils of shared neutrals and how any loop will make a magnetic field. Try to get appliances without computers etc. There's a refridgerator maker in Europe called Conserve that can be gotten in the US, and I hear is as good as it gets for low EMFs. I would have all living areas on the ground floor, so it's easier to ground electronics to a true ground. If the electrician knows about it, there's such a thing as outlets with dedicated grounds...this may only really help if that ground is not bonded, which probably would violate code. Try to think out the floor plan in terms of wiring, so that the electricity to the kitchen, laundry and furnace does not go past the bedroom or living area. There is a guide on the internet. You might also want to learn about what people with chemical sensitivity do... Bill On Jan 3, 2008 5:17 PM, Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: > We moved into a different house last year and it has worked fine. The > key > things that helped us were: > > - House is detached, no neighbours through adjoining walls/floors (easier > in > US than UK, or rural rather than town) > - No masts etc nearby or in a direct line (especially shining through > windows - if this is unavoidable, use metallic net curtains) > - Check where the main power wires run in the walls and avoid sitting near > them; also beware the short range electric/magnetic fields from some light > switches, dimmers, wall thermostats, gas boilers etc > - The biggest single benefit for us; having a new fuse box with separately > wired circuits. Now we can turn off the power in all of the house at night > with a flick of a switch. Alternatively we can turn off most of it but > leave an outside storeroom on power to run a fridge/freezer. > > There are things like black metallic shielding paint for walls available, > but we have been able to manage without this. Having the power off at > night > has given Sue the sleep she needed to strengthen her body to cope. > > As usual, it depends on what things particularly affect you and in what > way. > > Ian > > _____ > > From: <%40> [mailto: > <%40>] On Behalf Of > iedbunnie > Sent: 03 January 2008 19:57 > <%40> > Subject: HOUSE PLANS > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > ETC? > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > CONDITION? > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > iRENE > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 > You might also want to learn about what > people with chemical sensitivity do... Yes, if you are building a new house or remodeling, you may also need to worry about things which may offgas (refinished hardwood floors, carpet, paint, etc.) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 This is what worked for me. My house is all metal. It is a mobile home with aluminum siding and a double roof. At first this is a very bad choice for a home because the windows are like portals that allow the high frequencies to come into the home and bounce around inside the home and make it like a microwave oven inside. It will make you sick. However, if you want to live inside a faraday cage then such a house can be very good for that purpose. It requires closing up all the windows. This can be done without people knowing what you have done. If you look at my windows you see blinds. But right behind the blinds are metal sheets. For the doors I have metal storm doors with steel mesh pet screens on top of wire screen. The hole are different sizes to block different wavelengths. To make a proper faraday cage requires that you have a box within a box. Each box has to be separately grounded. The aluminum siding is the outer box. I have akso many layers of velostat on the inside of my home which is separately grounded and forms the inside box. This is the proper way to build a faraday cage. This has worked very well for me. HOUSE PLANS WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC HYPERSENSITIVITY. IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION ETC? IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY CONDITION? IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE iRENE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 That's pretty interesting. Do the windows let light in? Do you have a meter or detector you can measure your field level with? I suspect the metal siding is blocking nearly all the microwaves, and the velostat is primarily damping lower frequency resonances of the home. About how many layers of Velostat are you talking about? Can you say more about how you felt before and after the Velostat? Bill On Jan 3, 2008 9:13 PM, <scollier@...> wrote: > This is what worked for me. My house is all metal. It is a mobile home > with aluminum siding and a double roof. At first this is a very bad choice > for a home because the windows are like portals that allow the high > frequencies to come into the home and bounce around inside the home and make > it like a microwave oven inside. It will make you sick. However, if you want > to live inside a faraday cage then such a house can be very good for that > purpose. It requires closing up all the windows. This can be done without > people knowing what you have done. If you look at my windows you see blinds. > But right behind the blinds are metal sheets. For the doors I have metal > storm doors with steel mesh pet screens on top of wire screen. The hole are > different sizes to block different wavelengths. To make a proper faraday > cage requires that you have a box within a box. Each box has to be > separately grounded. The aluminum siding is the outer box. I have akso many > layers of velostat on the inside of my home which is separately grounded and > forms the inside box. This is the proper way to build a faraday cage. This > has worked very well for me. > > HOUSE PLANS > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > ETC? > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > CONDITION? > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > iRENE > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I was looking at a website about overcoming electrical sensitivity http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/HealingAids2.html and I found a link which took me to another link that was called healthy home plans. Here is the link. http://www.healthyhomeplans.com/ I only just looked over it I don't know if it will help. Here is another website I found about some EMF consultants. http://www.emfservices.com/index.htm Hope this helps. scollier@... wrote: This is what worked for me. My house is all metal. It is a mobile home with aluminum siding and a double roof. At first this is a very bad choice for a home because the windows are like portals that allow the high frequencies to come into the home and bounce around inside the home and make it like a microwave oven inside. It will make you sick. However, if you want to live inside a faraday cage then such a house can be very good for that purpose. It requires closing up all the windows. This can be done without people knowing what you have done. If you look at my windows you see blinds. But right behind the blinds are metal sheets. For the doors I have metal storm doors with steel mesh pet screens on top of wire screen. The hole are different sizes to block different wavelengths. To make a proper faraday cage requires that you have a box within a box. Each box has to be separately grounded. The aluminum siding is the outer box. I have akso many layers of velostat on the inside of my home which is separately grounded and forms the inside box. This is the proper way to build a faraday cage. This has worked very well for me. HOUSE PLANS WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC HYPERSENSITIVITY. IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION ETC? IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY CONDITION? IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE iRENE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Yes, I can tell you more. No the windows are completely blocked. I do have survelliance cameras that let me see outside if I want to look outside. I do not have meters other than my trifield meter. I am very sensitive and I do things based upon how what I do makes me feel. This is what I have done now for a very long time. For example, I learned that just grounding the corners of the house was not enough. I work on areas of the house where I don't feel that good in. In one such place I would ground one sheet of metal siding and continue to ground each sheet running the wire from one sheet to the next. Yet when I rounded the corner and grounded the next sheet and then came back inside to see how I felt I noticed that now I felt worse instead of better. So I stopped with the previous sheet and just left it the way that it was because it was having such a good effect on me. It is all totally being done by feelings and with no meters or instruments. I don't know what the aluminum siding is blocking. But I know that the velostat is supposed to block microwaves. Again, I like velostat because of the way that it makes me feel. I don't know what it does or how it does what it does but when you touch it it really makes you feel good and when I put layers of it on the wall it has a good effect. Some say that it can take as much as 11 or 12 layers to be very effective. I put the velostat in layers mixed in with layers of metalic cloth that I buy from walmart and with sheets of wire that have 1/4 by 1/4 openings. It is all grounded to grounding rods. I don't know why it is but it seems to work best if you run the wire from the grounding rod to a water pipe and then to the wall. I usually connect it to the metallic cloth. I have one room in the house that makes me feel really really good. In that room the house copper wires have been disconnected at the mains, including the neutral wire. From the ground rods I use zinc connectors and use silver nickel speaker wire instead of copper wire and attach the wire to the wall using zinc plated screws and washers. I purposely use zinc instead of copper because copper is feminine and zinc is masculine. I am so senstitive that I can tell a difference. This room has a great effect on me. It is hard to explain just how it is. But copper is much like mercury. I have read that copper toxicity symptoms are exactly the same as mercury toxicity symptoms. Zinc has a really good effect on me and copper does not. I have put a lot of thought into this house as you can tell. HOUSE PLANS > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > ETC? > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > CONDITION? > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > iRENE > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 This is fascinating. Disconnecting the wiring from the mains makes perfect sense. There is always dirty power on the neutral (assuming a wye power grid; on delta grids maybe not). I assume your AC ground wires are also disconnected from the power company neutral? Curious what kind of lighting you use, and what kind of computer. I'm not sure I follow the details of your grounding. Maybe by not going around the corner you're minimizing the extent to which external ground currents come in and go out through your ground system? One solution to that is to ground everything at one point (one rod, or one rod with others connected to it). The metal cloth, if it's what I'm thinking of (hardware cloth, like you could make a fence out of) should be quite effective at blocking RF and microwaves up to at least about 5 GHz. I'd expect the microwaves to go through the velostat but it will help block low frequency electric fields and as I said may prevent resonances. Of course enough layers could block microwaves, maybe someone could calculate it, but I suspect 10 layers is not even close. Bill On Jan 4, 2008 6:41 PM, <scollier@...> wrote: > Yes, I can tell you more. No the windows are completely blocked. I do > have survelliance cameras that let me see outside if I want to look outside. > I do not have meters other than my trifield meter. I am very sensitive and I > do things based upon how what I do makes me feel. This is what I have done > now for a very long time. For example, I learned that just grounding the > corners of the house was not enough. I work on areas of the house where I > don't feel that good in. In one such place I would ground one sheet of metal > siding and continue to ground each sheet running the wire from one sheet to > the next. Yet when I rounded the corner and grounded the next sheet and then > came back inside to see how I felt I noticed that now I felt worse instead > of better. So I stopped with the previous sheet and just left it the way > that it was because it was having such a good effect on me. It is all > totally being done by feelings and with no meters or instruments. I don't > know what the aluminum siding is blocking. But I know that the velostat is > supposed to block microwaves. Again, I like velostat because of the way that > it makes me feel. I don't know what it does or how it does what it does but > when you touch it it really makes you feel good and when I put layers of it > on the wall it has a good effect. Some say that it can take as much as 11 or > 12 layers to be very effective. I put the velostat in layers mixed in with > layers of metalic cloth that I buy from walmart and with sheets of wire that > have 1/4 by 1/4 openings. It is all grounded to grounding rods. I don't know > why it is but it seems to work best if you run the wire from the grounding > rod to a water pipe and then to the wall. I usually connect it to the > metallic cloth. I have one room in the house that makes me feel really > really good. In that room the house copper wires have been disconnected at > the mains, including the neutral wire. From the ground rods I use zinc > connectors and use silver nickel speaker wire instead of copper wire and > attach the wire to the wall using zinc plated screws and washers. I > purposely use zinc instead of copper because copper is feminine and zinc is > masculine. I am so senstitive that I can tell a difference. This room has a > great effect on me. It is hard to explain just how it is. But copper is much > like mercury. I have read that copper toxicity symptoms are exactly the same > as mercury toxicity symptoms. Zinc has a really good effect on me and copper > does not. I have put a lot of thought into this house as you can tell. > > HOUSE PLANS > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > > ETC? > > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > > CONDITION? > > > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > > iRENE > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 > > I don't have a real understanding of what I'm doing the way I'm sure many > here in the group do. Actually this shielding stuff is very difficult to get right even for experts, and I don't think anyone posting here is an expert at it--I'm certainly not. So your trial and error experience is very valuable. The bit about the glare screen is also very interesting. I think possibly the glare screen acts mainly as a spacer, so the fields aren't too strong at the shield. It's also conceivable it helps by allowing the screen to be used at maximum brightness? I don't know how they work but for sure a lot of dimmer switches are less polluting when on maximum current. What about keyboard and mouse? Also, I think a lot of people would like to know how big your monitor is or even the exact make and model. Bill On Jan 5, 2008 9:29 AM, <scollier@...> wrote: > I could feel a huge difference when I disconnected the neutral wire. I > had had the power off to that room for quite a long time. The ground wire is > also disconnected from that room. The grounding of the outer aluminum siding > is completely different than the grounding of the electrical system of the > house. I used a ground rod and ran the ground wire along the bottom edge of > the house connecting it to each individual sheet of siding. I'm trying this > is areas of the house where it still doesn't feel right. I use different > ground rods to ground the velostat on the inside of the house. I don't have > a real understanding of what I'm doing the way I'm sure many here in the > group do. It is all hit and miss guess work trying out different ideas. When > I find something that works I continue to do it and when it doesn't work I > stop doing it and if possible try to understand why. I have found that > ground rods have a better feel than grounding things to the ground in the > electrical outlet. It seems that ground current flows up the ground rod > wiring and I think the same is true that it flows out of the ground in the > electrical box. I have slept on grounded conductive fabric grounded to both > the electrical box and to ground rods and find the ground rods are very > comforting and the electrical box ground makes me feel like I'm being > electricuted. So I use ground rods exclusively. I have two computers. One is > grounded by placing it on top of conductive fabric that is grounded to a > ground rod and the other is inside a metal box that is grounded. Both are up > off the floor so as not to create ground currents. They are placed far away > from my desk using extension cords. The monitor is a flat screen that > appears to have no transformer in the monitor itself but only on the end of > the electrical cord which is place far away from the computer in a place > where all my other electrical equipment is at. Again this is off the floor > in a box that is grounded. The monitor has two screens. One is a grounded > screen from Less EMF and the other is just a glare screen. The glare screen > is between the grounded screen and the monitor. I just go by feelings. I > can't explain why it works better but I feel better with the ungrounded > glare screen in there. I just go by feelings and can't explain that. > Computers were a real killer before but with this set up it doesn't bother > me at all. I use incandescent light bulbs. I'm no expert on light bulbs. > They don't seem to bother me. Sounds like you know more about the velostat > than I do. But what you are saying does make sense. Before I blocked the > windows from the outside they were only covered on the inside with many > layers of velostat. I thought this was blocking the microwaves. But after I > blocked the windows from the outside as well with metal sheeting I saw a > huge difference. The velostat has creates a good feel to the room but > apparently it was ineffective as a blocking agent. You are most likely > correct. > > HOUSE PLANS > > > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > > > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > > > ETC? > > > > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > > > CONDITION? > > > > > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > > > iRENE > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I could feel a huge difference when I disconnected the neutral wire. I had had the power off to that room for quite a long time. The ground wire is also disconnected from that room. The grounding of the outer aluminum siding is completely different than the grounding of the electrical system of the house. I used a ground rod and ran the ground wire along the bottom edge of the house connecting it to each individual sheet of siding. I'm trying this is areas of the house where it still doesn't feel right. I use different ground rods to ground the velostat on the inside of the house. I don't have a real understanding of what I'm doing the way I'm sure many here in the group do. It is all hit and miss guess work trying out different ideas. When I find something that works I continue to do it and when it doesn't work I stop doing it and if possible try to understand why. I have found that ground rods have a better feel than grounding things to the ground in the electrical outlet. It seems that ground current flows up the ground rod wiring and I think the same is true that it flows out of the ground in the electrical box. I have slept on grounded conductive fabric grounded to both the electrical box and to ground rods and find the ground rods are very comforting and the electrical box ground makes me feel like I'm being electricuted. So I use ground rods exclusively. I have two computers. One is grounded by placing it on top of conductive fabric that is grounded to a ground rod and the other is inside a metal box that is grounded. Both are up off the floor so as not to create ground currents. They are placed far away from my desk using extension cords. The monitor is a flat screen that appears to have no transformer in the monitor itself but only on the end of the electrical cord which is place far away from the computer in a place where all my other electrical equipment is at. Again this is off the floor in a box that is grounded. The monitor has two screens. One is a grounded screen from Less EMF and the other is just a glare screen. The glare screen is between the grounded screen and the monitor. I just go by feelings. I can't explain why it works better but I feel better with the ungrounded glare screen in there. I just go by feelings and can't explain that. Computers were a real killer before but with this set up it doesn't bother me at all. I use incandescent light bulbs. I'm no expert on light bulbs. They don't seem to bother me. Sounds like you know more about the velostat than I do. But what you are saying does make sense. Before I blocked the windows from the outside they were only covered on the inside with many layers of velostat. I thought this was blocking the microwaves. But after I blocked the windows from the outside as well with metal sheeting I saw a huge difference. The velostat has creates a good feel to the room but apparently it was ineffective as a blocking agent. You are most likely correct. HOUSE PLANS > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > > ETC? > > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > > CONDITION? > > > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > > iRENE > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 The keyboard causes me no problem. I use a regular mouse with the cord. If there is something out there better than this I don't know what it is but would be interested in knowing about it. I do get a bit of a current from the mouse. It's a bit like a cell phone. I can use it very briefly but I can't hold it in my hand for long periods of time. The monitor has a brand name of KENMARK on it. It measures 17 wide including side speakers and is 12 inches tall. It can't be used to watch t.v. with but causes me no problems as a computer monitor. The owners manual says LCD TV 15KN10E5 The address for the manufacturer is Kenmark USA, 8004 S. Madison, Burr Ridge, IL 60527. The telephone number is 1-866-346-7176. HOUSE PLANS > > > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > > > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > > > ETC? > > > > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > > > CONDITION? > > > > > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > > > iRENE > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 I don't quite understand. Did you disconnect the neutral (common) lead between the electrical box and the power pole? Thanx __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > This is what worked for me. My house is all metal. It is a mobile home > > > with aluminum siding and a double roof. At first this is a very bad > > choice > > > for a home because the windows are like portals that allow the high > > > frequencies to come into the home and bounce around inside the home and > > make > > > it like a microwave oven inside. It will make you sick. However, if you > > want > > > to live inside a faraday cage then such a house can be very good for > > that > > > purpose. It requires closing up all the windows. This can be done > > without > > > people knowing what you have done. If you look at my windows you see > > blinds. > > > But right behind the blinds are metal sheets. For the doors I have metal > > > storm doors with steel mesh pet screens on top of wire screen. The hole > > are > > > different sizes to block different wavelengths. To make a proper faraday > > > cage requires that you have a box within a box. Each box has to be > > > separately grounded. The aluminum siding is the outer box. I have akso > > many > > > layers of velostat on the inside of my home which is separately grounded > > and > > > forms the inside box. This is the proper way to build a faraday cage. > > This > > > has worked very well for me. > > > > > > HOUSE PLANS > > > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > > > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > > > ETC? > > > > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > > > CONDITION? > > > > > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > > > iRENE > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Dear Irene, Lucky you if you can build your own house. However, there are several things to consider. Here are some… Location Try to find a place free from mobile phone masts, TV and radio masts, radar equipment and neighbours within 300 meters (DECT-telephone). Don’t build on top of a hill, instead build at the bottom of the hill (on the side where you get radio shadow) or in a valley. To measure this, engage someone having a frequency analyser. If you find a place with the radiation around 1 nW/m2 it is a good place. (Still you can use a mobile phone…) (Remember: the maximum value stated by ICNIRP is 10 W/m2 for 3G) There should also be no power line within say 300 meters. Construction site When you have found the right place you have to orientate the house according to the Curry lines. The lines must be in the outer walls so a Curry cross lies in the corner of the house. Since the Curry lines are about 4 metres apart the house (and the rooms) should have a modulus of 4 meters. The house thus can be 4 by 8 meters, 8 by 8 meters, 8 by 12 meters and so on. The Curry lines you detect with a dowsing rod or pointers. Also there shall not be a water line under the house crossing the place where you intend to put your bed. The water lines you detect with a dowsing rod or pointers. Materials for the house Build the house from stone or bricks. Only use material, which don’t give off chemicals (remember: about 50% of EHS people are also MCS to different degrees). Use windows with low emission glass (energy glass) as this will reduce the microwave radiation (attenuation about 20 dB) Electricity Use shielded cables. Check the quality of the electricity to avoid dirty electricity. Using a Stetzer meter you can detect this. Use filters if the values are above 50 Stetzer units. Don’t use CFLs and fluorescent tubes. Don’t use dimmers. Concentrate the electrical lines in the house to places where you normally don’t stay. This will take care of magnetic fields. Use net decoupler so your bedroom is completely free from electric fields during sleep. These are a few suggestions for a good start unless you are extremely sensitive. We have practiced much of this in our house and most EHS people visiting us feel quite well and also sleep well. Kind regards and good luck Torbjorn @...: iedbunnie@...: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:56:42 +0000Subject: HOUSE PLANS WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC HYPERSENSITIVITY.IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION ETC?IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY CONDITION?IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE iRENE _________________________________________________________________ Står karriären still? Låt någon annan hitta drömjobbet åt dig! http://msn.jobbguiden.se/jobseeker/resumes/postresumenew/postresumestart.aspx?sc\ _cmp2=JS_INT_SEMSN_NLPCV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 > > > > > I don't have a real understanding of what I'm doing the way I'm sure many > > here in the group do. Me too. However, good shielding is a forest,or other living plants. If one cannot move to live in a forest, how about growing indoor climbing plants around all the walls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 > > > > > > > This is what worked for me. My house is all metal. It is a mobile home > > > > with aluminum siding and a double roof. At first this is a very bad > > > choice > > > > for a home because the windows are like portals that allow the high > > > > frequencies to come into the home and bounce around inside the home > > and > > > make > > > > it like a microwave oven inside. It will make you sick. However, if > > you > > > want > > > > to live inside a faraday cage then such a house can be very good for > > > that > > > > purpose. It requires closing up all the windows. This can be done > > > without > > > > people knowing what you have done. If you look at my windows you see > > > blinds. > > > > But right behind the blinds are metal sheets. For the doors I have > > metal > > > > storm doors with steel mesh pet screens on top of wire screen. The > > hole > > > are > > > > different sizes to block different wavelengths. To make a proper > > faraday > > > > cage requires that you have a box within a box. Each box has to be > > > > separately grounded. The aluminum siding is the outer box. I have akso > > > many > > > > layers of velostat on the inside of my home which is separately > > grounded > > > and > > > > forms the inside box. This is the proper way to build a faraday cage. > > > This > > > > has worked very well for me. > > > > > > > > HOUSE PLANS > > > > > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > > > > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > > > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A > > > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION > > > > ETC? > > > > > > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR > > > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > > > > CONDITION? > > > > > > > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE > > > > iRENE > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 > > > Dear Irene, > > Lucky you if you can build your own house. However, there are several things to consider. Here are some… > > Location > Try to find a place free from mobile phone masts, TV and radio masts, radar equipment and neighbours within 300 meters (DECT-telephone). > Don't build on top of a hill, instead build at the bottom of the hill (on the side where you get radio shadow) or in a valley. To measure this, engage someone having a frequency analyser. If you find a place with the radiation around 1 nW/m2 it is a good place. (Still you can use a mobile phone…) (Remember: the maximum value stated by ICNIRP is 10 W/m2 for 3G) > There should also be no power line within say 300 meters. > > Construction site > When you have found the right place you have to orientate the house according to the Curry lines. The lines must be in the outer walls so a Curry cross lies in the corner of the house. Since the Curry lines are about 4 metres apart the house (and the rooms) should have a modulus of 4 meters. The house thus can be 4 by 8 meters, 8 by 8 meters, 8 by 12 meters and so on. > The Curry lines you detect with a dowsing rod or pointers. > > Also there shall not be a water line under the house crossing the place where you intend to put your bed. > The water lines you detect with a dowsing rod or pointers. > Curry lines: are something related to geo-magnetic fields ? where can I find more info ? > Materials for the house > Build the house from stone or bricks. Only use material, which don't give off chemicals (remember: about 50% of EHS people are also MCS to different degrees). > > Use windows with low emission glass (energy glass) as this will reduce the microwave radiation (attenuation about 20 dB) > Energy glass: what are ? can you provide some references ? Thanks a lot Giorgio > Electricity > Use shielded cables. Check the quality of the electricity to avoid dirty electricity. Using a Stetzer meter you can detect this. Use filters if the values are above 50 Stetzer units. Don't use CFLs and fluorescent tubes. Don't use dimmers. > Concentrate the electrical lines in the house to places where you normally don't stay. This will take care of magnetic fields. > Use net decoupler so your bedroom is completely free from electric fields during sleep. > > > These are a few suggestions for a good start unless you are extremely sensitive. We have practiced much of this in our house and most EHS people visiting us feel quite well and also sleep well. > > Kind regards and good luck > Torbjorn > > > > @...: iedbunnie@...: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:56:42 +0000Subject: HOUSE PLANS > > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC HYPERSENSITIVITY.IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT KIND OF A CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE FOUNDATION ETC?IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS THEIR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY CONDITION?IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN ADVANCE iRENE > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Står karriären still? Låt någon annan hitta drömjobbet åt dig! > http://msn.jobbguiden.se/jobseeker/resumes/postresumenew/postresumestart.aspx?sc\ _cmp2=JS_INT_SEMSN_NLPCV > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Thanks for the reply. I only wondered about your " common lead " because of a situation I found at a friends house. She was feeling a random shock when touching the shower handle. 2 electricians couldn't find anything wrong. She then called me to look at it. I found some stray potential in the water piping. After a few hours of further testing I had a suspicion there could be a bad common on the house so I clipped my amp gun around the house ground and found current to ground but no current in the common to utility. I called the electric co. emergency line and had a tech out in about 30 min. He replaced the house meter with a diagnostic box and found the house was okay but it sensed a bad common between the house and the utility pole. A tree limb had fatigued and broken the common line to the house forcing all of the current being used in the house to go to ground through the plumbing! The tech bonded the failed common and the problem went away. The emergency tech said he had even seen a open common effect TVs & computers in neighboring houses. Regards, Jim > > > > > > > This is what worked for me. My house is all metal. It is a > mobile home > > > > with aluminum siding and a double roof. At first this is a > very bad > > > choice > > > > for a home because the windows are like portals that allow > the high > > > > frequencies to come into the home and bounce around inside > the home and > > > make > > > > it like a microwave oven inside. It will make you sick. > However, if you > > > want > > > > to live inside a faraday cage then such a house can be very > good for > > > that > > > > purpose. It requires closing up all the windows. This can be > done > > > without > > > > people knowing what you have done. If you look at my windows > you see > > > blinds. > > > > But right behind the blinds are metal sheets. For the doors I > have metal > > > > storm doors with steel mesh pet screens on top of wire > screen. The hole > > > are > > > > different sizes to block different wavelengths. To make a > proper faraday > > > > cage requires that you have a box within a box. Each box has > to be > > > > separately grounded. The aluminum siding is the outer box. I > have akso > > > many > > > > layers of velostat on the inside of my home which is > separately grounded > > > and > > > > forms the inside box. This is the proper way to build a > faraday cage. > > > This > > > > has worked very well for me. > > > > > > > > HOUSE PLANS > > > > > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC > > > > HYPERSENSITIVITY. > > > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT > KIND OF A > > > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE > FOUNDATION > > > > ETC? > > > > > > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS > THEIR > > > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH MY > > > > CONDITION? > > > > > > > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS IN > ADVANCE > > > > iRENE > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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