emf meters

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M.D. wrote:

> Dear Green,

> I found this place that sells sell a EMF meter for cell phones

> AND 50.60 Hz household currents. Please check it.

> http://www.rfsafe.com/CELL_SENSOR.htm

Also, check out the " TriField Meter, " which tests for three types

of radiation -- electric, magnetic, and microwave -- with enough

accuracy and sensitivity for most basic diagnostic applications.

EMF Meters & Detectors -- many brands and types :

http://www.lessemf.com/emf-mete.html

http://www.rfsafe.com/EMF_DETECTION_METERS.htm

Magnetic Shielding FAQ (technical) :

http://www.magnetic-shield.com/faq.html

National Electromagnetic Field Testing Association

Hire a consultant to do your testing :

http://kato.theramp.net/nefta/

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Meters:

AlphaLab, Inc. <www.maui.net/~emf>

EMC Test Systems <www.emctest.com>

Enertech Consultants <www.enertech.net>

EnviroMentor <www.enviromentor.se>

Ergonomics Inc. <www.ergonomicsusa.com>

F.W. Bell <www.fwbell.com>

Holaday Industries Inc. <www.holadayinc.com>

Less EMF <www.lessemf.com/emf-mete.html>

Narda Microwave <www.nardamicrowave.com>

Physical Systems International <www.physicalsystems.com>

RF Safe Corporation <www.rfsafe.com>

Safe Technologies Corp. <www.milligauss.com>

TecHealth Corp. <www.tec-health.com>

Scientific Inc. <www.walkerscientific.com>

Wandel & Goltermann <www.wg.com>

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Other EMF Safety Products

BEMA, Inc. <www.cryptome.org/bema-se.htm>

Better Electromagnetic Environ <www.bemi.se/index_e.html>

BIOflex <www.magnaflex.com>

Less EMF <www.lessemf.com>

Magnetherapy <www.das-mall.com/tectonic/index.htm>

Magnetic Shield Corp. <www.magnetic-shield.com>

Microshield Industries <www.microshield.co.uk>

MuShield Company <www.mushield.com>

Technology Alternatives Corp. <www.milligauss.com>

NoRad Corp. <www.noradcorp.com>

PhoneShield <www.codem.com/phoneshield>

Safe Cellular Phones <www.merchantmanager.com/coates>

Safe Technologies Corp. <www.safelevel.com>

Shielding Resources <www.shieldingresources.com>

Tecknit Shielding Systems <www.tecknit.com>

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01 Sep 2000

Bill

> Re: Those chi machines again!

>

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>

>My little Applied Magnetics Lab (Baltimore, MD) EMF-931

>Electro Magnetic Field Radiation Meter (milliGauss meter),

>which measures 3 3/4 " x 2 3/8 " x 1 " and cost me around

>$160 and takes a single 9V alkaline battery, works fine to

>measure the EMF produced by any 60 hz AC device.

><..snip..>

>

>I located my EMF meter in a large industrial supply catalog,

>I don't remember the name of the company. There are much

>fancier and more professional units available and the prices

>can be astronomical, but these aren't needed for the purpose

>of measuring fields emitted by 60 Hz appliances and devices.

>Just make sure what you get is calibrated to measure 60 Hz

>fields (if you are measuring 60 Hz fields). In Europe and

>elsewhere, 50 Hz power is used). What you need is a

>milliGauss meter calibrated to the frequency of the AC

>electromagnetic field you're measuring.

><..snip..>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a few questions of import to me and my family for the

electronic experts on the list.

Recently circumstances have developed where we need to

move.

We were looking at a town home that we liked very much. But

out side in the small backyard area about 15-20ft away from inside

the home (and about 10-15ft away when in the patio area) is a

transformer that must supply power for the units in that area.

How powerful are the emf waves that might be coming out of a

unit like that? And how far away does one need to be from it? I've

seen them before at other duplexes and townhomes. They're about

3ft. high and 4ft across. Any advice, ideas would be most

appreciated.

My other question is; how long would it take to get up to speed

in using a " Trifield Meter " . I am going to order one to use on our

present home and whatever else we look at. I think that it was Jim

that recommended " Cross Currents " to study in order to learn about

emf and using the trifield. Is that the best book for those purposes?

Are townhomes and condos usually more or less problematic

than free standing homes emf-wise? What about older homes

versus newer ones? Any thing else to look out for please feel free

let me know.

Thanks very much,

Technical Theatre Director

Piedmont Virginia Community College

961-5374 - office

804-961-5390 - main stage light booth

[Guest guest]

Choose another house.

Regards

Noel

Professor Noel

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violently opposed: finally it is accepted as self evident. Schopenhauer.

Re: RE: EMF meters

I have a few questions of import to me and my family for the

electronic experts on the list.

Recently circumstances have developed where we need to

move.

We were looking at a town home that we liked very much. But

out side in the small backyard area about 15-20ft away from inside

the home (and about 10-15ft away when in the patio area) is a

transformer that must supply power for the units in that area.

How powerful are the emf waves that might be coming out of a

unit like that? And how far away does one need to be from it? I've

seen them before at other duplexes and townhomes. They're about

3ft. high and 4ft across. Any advice, ideas would be most

appreciated.

My other question is; how long would it take to get up to speed

in using a " Trifield Meter " . I am going to order one to use on our

present home and whatever else we look at. I think that it was Jim

that recommended " Cross Currents " to study in order to learn about

emf and using the trifield. Is that the best book for those purposes?

Are townhomes and condos usually more or less problematic

than free standing homes emf-wise? What about older homes

versus newer ones? Any thing else to look out for please feel free

let me know.

Thanks very much,

Technical Theatre Director

Piedmont Virginia Community College

961-5374 - office

804-961-5390 - main stage light booth

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

=====

I have a few questions of import to me and my family for the

electronic experts on the list.

=====

I don't consider myself an electronic expert, but due to

recent experience I happen to have answers to some of

your questions.

=====

Recently circumstances have developed where we need to

move.

We were looking at a town home that we liked very much. But

out side in the small backyard area about 15-20ft away from inside

the home (and about 10-15ft away when in the patio area) is a

transformer that must supply power for the units in that area.

How powerful are the emf waves that might be coming out of a

unit like that?

=====

According to Brodeur in CURRENTS OF DEATH, the strength of

the emf from a transformer depends on the amount of electrical

current being drawn through it.

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And how far away does one need to be from it?

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I'd say you need to be at least far enough away that the emf

levels are below those shown by epidemiological evidence

to be harmful.

If you're getting statistically significant rates of leukemia and

brain cancer from exposure to levels of 2 to 5 milligauss, who

is to definitively say there can be no harm from exposures of

less? We simply don't know, but avoiding levels known to

cause trouble would seem to be a minimum precaution.

Based on my own measurements with my Model EMF-931

Applied Magnetics Lab electromagnetic field radiation meter,

and my reading on the subject, 15 or 20 feet sounds way too

close. Of course, the only way to know for sure is to check the

house and the area around it with a meter.

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I've

seen them before at other duplexes and townhomes. They're about

3ft. high and 4ft across. Any advice, ideas would be most

appreciated.

My other question is; how long would it take to get up to speed

in using a " Trifield Meter " .

=====

Not very long. Do some reading on the subject. Sit down with

the meter and the owner's manual or instructions. Then have at it --

I don't think there's much way you can go wrong.

=====

I am going to order one to use on our

present home and whatever else we look at. I think that it was Jim

that recommended " Cross Currents " to study in order to learn about

emf and using the trifield. Is that the best book for those purposes?

=====

Now that I think about it, I read both CROSS CURRENTS

and CURRENTS OF DEATH several years ago. For my

purposes, I preferred the latter. But from Jim's description

of the credentials of CROSS CURRENTS's author, it may

be the most comprehensive and authoritative book available

on the subject. Government or Industry experts who break

with industry interests in order to inform the public of dangers

carry a special credibility.

I found CURRENTS OF DEATH to be the more easily readable

of the two books, and excellent for understanding of the issues.

=====

Are townhomes and condos usually more or less problematic

than free standing homes emf-wise?

=====

Wherever multiple living units are being supplied in common

by a single transformer, the emf from the transformer and some

of the lines supplying them is going to be stronger than that from

a single-unit transformer and associated lines. It's simply a

function of the amount of current being drawn through the

transformer and lines. On average, a transformer servicing a

single-family home -- upon which no other draw is being made --

is going to produce weaker emf than a transformer servicing a

number of freestanding homes or a number of units in an

apartment complex.

In CURRENTS OF DEATH, a study is described in which an

investigator of cancer clusters in a community discovered the

correlation between just such high-draw transformers in proximity

to homes, with leukemia.

One school in which 60 Hz emf levels were unusually high had

become known as a death factory for students and teachers alike.

In conclusion, I'd want to wave a meter around before I decided

anything for certain, but I rather suspect Professor put

it in a nutshell when he advised you to " choose another house. "

Heck of a civilization, eh, where government and industry

present such infrastructural dangers as safe, and such

investigations and decisions fall to the individual?

Best wishes for a safe life in your new home,

Green

PS -- I think you'll be glad you got a meter -- I find it well worth

the price of a meter to KNOW what emf levels I'm dealing with.

[Guest guest]

Hi;

This is my first post...I have a Trifield meter. They're very good and on sale.

Cheapest I've seen is from therapist/author Milburn. Until Nov. 30,

2000 you can purchase a Trifield Meter and the book Electromagnetic Fields and

Your Health for only $132.00 US, plus $15.00 Shipping/Handling to most of the

continental United States.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpm_mo/emfmeter.htm

I'm going over to my mom-in-law's 230-suite apt. right now...They have a

three-bay transformer unit out back...I'll check it for EMF and post back.

ciao

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Yo! I'm back from checking out the transformers...it is a 3-bay transformer for

an apartment block, 3:30 PM. The readings varied of course, from off the scale

>100 mGauss at some points on the housing, averaging around 5 to 6 mGauss at

four feet away. Of note is the 15 mGauss reading where the electric feed went

underground to enter the building.

As Prof. says, you could choose another house. But on the other hand

'prudent avoidance' means different things to different people. To each his own.

The 2.6 milligauss 'safe level' in North America is what, 2 mGauss in Sweden.

In Russia the allowable levels are set at what level biological effects are

first measurable, about A THOUSAND TIMES LOWER than ours.

EMF levels are going to be a contentious point regarding real estate values in

the coming years.

About the Book 'Cross Currents' - a great book. You should get 'The Body

Electric', by O. Becker as well.

ciao

Duncan

[Guest guest]

,

I am one of the people who mentioned Dr. Rober O. Becker's book, Cross

Currents. He is easily one best authorities on the biological effects of

electrical & electromechanical fields on humans that has ever lived.

Anyone who reads his book will come away, not only with admiration for

his intellect, but an understanding of what the dangers are & what to do

about them.

As for those transformers, I wouldn't live that close to them if I could

help it. Certainly not within 15 ft.

jim

Eagle wrote:

> Recently circumstances have developed where we need to

> move.

> We were looking at a town home that we liked very much. But

> out side in the small backyard area about 15-20ft away from inside

> the home (and about 10-15ft away when in the patio area) is a

> transformer that must supply power for the units in that area.

> How powerful are the emf waves that might be coming out of a

> unit like that? And how far away does one need to be from it? I've

> seen them before at other duplexes and townhomes. They're about

> 3ft. high and 4ft across. Any advice, ideas would be most

> appreciated.

> My other question is; how long would it take to get up to speed

> in using a " Trifield Meter " . I am going to order one to use on our

> present home and whatever else we look at. I think that it was Jim

> that recommended " Cross Currents " to study in order to learn about

> emf and using the trifield. Is that the best book for those purposes?

>

> Are townhomes and condos usually more or less problematic

> than free standing homes emf-wise? What about older homes

> versus newer ones? Any thing else to look out for please feel free

> let me know.

> Thanks very much,

>

> --

" Coming events cast their shadows before. " --

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> We were looking at a town home that we liked very much. But

>out side in the small backyard area about 15-20ft away from inside

>the home (and about 10-15ft away when in the patio area) is a

>transformer that must supply power for the units in that area.

> How powerful are the emf waves that might be coming out of

>a unit like that? And how far away does one need to be from it?

>I've seen them before at other duplexes and townhomes. They're

>about 3ft. high and 4ft across. Any advice, ideas would be most

>appreciated.

You absolutely need to use a meter to obtain any of the answers

you are seeking. However, the most important place to check is

indoors -- in every room -- especially near the plumbing, and

near the power panel (breaker box), and near the kitchen and

laundry appliances. Make sure the power drop (the outside power

line connection), and the power meters for the building, are not

too close to the unit you are thinking of buying.

Do all your measuring while your potential neighbors are home,

and using power. Also, do your measurements while the

refrigerator and other appliances are operating. Hope that none

of your potential neighbors is a ham radio operator, an electric

welding hobbyist, a ceramic kiln hobbyist, etc.

> Are townhomes and condos usually more or less problematic

>than free standing homes emf-wise? What about older homes

>versus newer ones? Any thing else to look out for please feel

>free let me know.

The very old homes can be the worst, unless they were rewired.

The original style of wiring, with hot and neutral lines strung

separately, rather than together in the same bundle, emits very

high levels of magnetic fields.

Check with a meter in all cases.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Thanks very much Bill, Duncan, Jim and everyone else who

responded to my post about emf meters and frequencies.

I will be ordering a trimeter and the books.

Thanks again,

> wrote:

> > We were looking at a town home that we liked very much. But

> >out side in the small backyard area about 15-20ft away from inside

> >the home (and about 10-15ft away when in the patio area) is a

> >transformer that must supply power for the units in that area. How

> >powerful are the emf waves that might be coming out of a unit like

> >that? And how far away does one need to be from it? I've seen them

> >before at other duplexes and townhomes. They're about 3ft. high and

> >4ft across. Any advice, ideas would be most appreciated.

>

>

> You absolutely need to use a meter to obtain any of the answers

> you are seeking. However, the most important place to check is

> indoors -- in every room -- especially near the plumbing, and

> near the power panel (breaker box), and near the kitchen and

> laundry appliances. Make sure the power drop (the outside power line

> connection), and the power meters for the building, are not too close

> to the unit you are thinking of buying.

>

> Do all your measuring while your potential neighbors are home,

> and using power. Also, do your measurements while the

> refrigerator and other appliances are operating. Hope that none of

> your potential neighbors is a ham radio operator, an electric welding

> hobbyist, a ceramic kiln hobbyist, etc.

>

>

> > Are townhomes and condos usually more or less problematic

> >than free standing homes emf-wise? What about older homes

> >versus newer ones? Any thing else to look out for please feel

> >free let me know.

>

>

> The very old homes can be the worst, unless they were rewired.

> The original style of wiring, with hot and neutral lines strung

> separately, rather than together in the same bundle, emits very

> high levels of magnetic fields.

>

> Check with a meter in all cases.

>

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

> other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I wonder if you can tell me the best meters to get to detect the energies that

are bothering us?

Are there any suppliers in Canada?

Thank you so very much

Judy