Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very embarassed. I would be grateful for some answere. Eleni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Hi Eleni, The way I understand it, the SCIO needs his name and date of birth, place of birth, to subconsciously find him. If you put in bogus data, that's exactly what you're going to get out. One way I've seen interesting results come back is to put in his name and date of birth, all the info needed for a test, and leave the SOC info area blank. I'm pretty certain if you try that you will see that the SCIO can pick him up and provide good data. Kind regards, Dave Naples, FL parthenis wrote: > > I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked > me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very > embarassed. > > I would be grateful for some answere. > > Eleni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hi it depends on the SOC scores sometimes. What did you fill in the second time? Bye Sue varhope values I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very embarassed.I would be grateful for some answere.Eleni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 perhaps we should note that a lie detector is probably a lot less technology than the qx just an idea... > From: parthenis <parthenis@...> > Subject: varhope values > qxci-scio-epfx-english > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:05 AM > I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last > > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with > it with my > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously > sick with > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of > weight. > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings > are very > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and > electrons > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very > interested > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. > Today he asked > me to do his readings under a different name and age and > without any > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is > actually > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were > excellent, 95 > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He > told me > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses > the info I > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with > his > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could > not give > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an > explanation > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt > very > embarassed. > > I would be grateful for some answere. > > Eleni > > > > ------------------------------------ > > ............................................ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 The scio read the person through a mathematical process based on one's name, birthdate and birthplace, not on being hooked up to the harness.......if you are using a different name, you are working on a different person, no matter who is hooked up to the harness at the time. Not a good idea to "make up" names, etc. and there always is the possibility that you are connecting with someone, somewhere in the world, that you do NOT have the permission to work on and that isn't exactly ethical. Gail Gillingham Wylie Autism Consulting ServiceEdmonton, Alberta, CanadaPhone 780 450 2810Fax 780 463 6433e-mail exgr@...Website: www.autismconsultingservice.com varhope values I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very embarassed.I would be grateful for some answere.Eleni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Why hasn't anyone answered/address this question? as of now? It was sent in on the 24th. It's now the several days later and still now answers.. I'm also interested in the answer... public like.. Gloria varhope values I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very embarassed.I would be grateful for some answere.Eleni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Hi Eleni, An update on the varhope scores issue. We have a client who gets really weird scores and I decided to try and create a new account for her like you did with your client. When I went to do that, I found that the data I put into her SOC panel was all 0's and had not been saved properly the first time. So I put in the correct numbers for her, stress level, caffiend, sugar, etc and after the test, her numbers came out in the normal range. So the SOC panel DOES affect the test matrix results. And that is to be expected. Again, I would be very cautious with this client. If this person has throat cancer and decides to give incomplete info to the EPFX program and then gets a result he/she likes, then you might wonder what they are really looking for. This would be a good time for a discussion with your client on what they are looking for in their sessions with you; stress reduction or a reassurance that they are ok. > > I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked > me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very > embarassed. > > I would be grateful for some answere. > > Eleni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 The mind is a powerful tool. It would be interesting to see what came up on the VAHOPE if he thinks you are doing the other person and are really testing him. Remember the VARHOPE comes from the Calibration (which they can block easily when they don't want you to see what is going on) it does not come from the test. With this said, someone can do the same thing with aura scans, and blood pressure simply by the power of the mind. If you go into the calibration and look at the Body Electric Stress Parameters you will see these numbers BEFORE you test. Yours in Health, Kathy www.4yourhealthshop.com www.vital-connection.com varhope values I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very embarassed.I would be grateful for some answere.Eleni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 The conference would have delayed the moderation of our site. Patience. varhope values I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very embarassed.I would be grateful for some answere.Eleni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 It has a lie detector already included. varhope values> qxci-scio-epfx-english > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:05 AM> I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last> > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with> it with my > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously> sick with > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of> weight. > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings> are very > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and> electrons > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very> interested > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. > Today he asked > me to do his readings under a different name and age and> without any > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is> actually > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were> excellent, 95 > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He> told me > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses> the info I > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with> his > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could> not give > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an> explanation > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt> very > embarassed.> > I would be grateful for some answere.> > Eleni> > > > ------------------------------------> > ............................................> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Sometimes we all get busy or have many things on our plate and cannot reply as fast and to the degree desired and since this has turned into a major topic lets go farther. Okay, lets discuss the fundamentals of the device. We have a biofeedback machine which works with the process of comparing a series of 5 frequencies during calibration and using with that the clients input information from Demographics to give a numerical interpretation to the stressors of the body. Will these influence key issues of the calibration? Yes! Why, is another topic and one that requires some reading; I would reference you to Kelsey's very scientific large manual for this...he is an engineer and goes into these facts. But, in general, those items of the Demographics, which tend to cause the most stress to the body electric, will (I repeat WILL) make the numbers of the Demographics change. If you wonder how, well do a bit of testing. Enter your client’s information, which IS correct, and see the SOC and the VARHOPE scores. Now go back and remove them all for a baseline. Now enter in one of the items (i.e. water they consume) and then do the calibration and look at the VARHOPE numbers...how did it affect how the body responded and the numbers read? Take that back to a zero (0) and do another...now what did it do? Remember each time you do this you need to list the person as new or use the existing but do a "modify" so that the demographics numbers are saved, new each time. So the information you insert into Demographics will make differences on both the VARHOPE and the coloration of the test matrix. As to it's order of numbers those won't be affected, just the colors and how high the numbers list. Say for instance with all the demographics information you have a SOC of 250 this means the numbering system of the test matrix could be as high as the 200's or even 300's giving ideas of greater concern on areas that we might otherwise ignore. And this is the key issue; we tend to ignore what is not in red or light blue, so to help with this the computer gives us these as a place to observe. This is done by the interpretation of the frequencies that were done during the 3-minute test of the 10197 items as to how they resonated to our client. Now why do we want this? Because, the client who is not eating healthy, or living a healthy life style needs to have those interpretations put into the mix. Allowing us to see a true picture of what is most probable. If you lie on Demographics will the information still show up on the Calibration (VARHOPE) or Test matrix? Often, but...only those things that they are most willing to unconsciously talk about, where by placing it manually, we get a better, suggested listing by what is probable to the stress of the body as well as the most relevant unconscious items. Well I hope that helps some, and doesn't make it more confusing for others. The design of the machine by Professor was to be used WITH Demographics to assure its accuracy. Yours in Health, Kathy www.vital-connection.com www.4yourhealthshop.com varhope values I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very embarassed.I would be grateful for some answere.Eleni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi, I did once find the lie detector but since than I cannot find it again. Where is it? About the VARHOPE results, this is what I can say: The name, DOB and place of birth create the unique number that is the unique energy of the client (human, animal, situation, building). If you change this information you change your client. You re not testing the same person anymore, this is the reason you get different results. You can still put the correct information name, dob place of birth and in the SOC just put 50 kg overweight just to calculate the SOC and then delete it before you continue with the calibration and test and see what results you will get. > From: parthenis <parthenis (DOT) com>> Subject: varhope values> qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:05 AM> I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last> > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with> it with my > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously> sick with > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of> weight. > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings> are very > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and> electrons > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very> interested > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. > Today he asked > me to do his readings under a different name and age and> without any > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is> actually > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were> excellent, 95 > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He> told me > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses> the info I > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with> his > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could> not give > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an> explanation > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt> very > embarassed.> > I would be grateful for some answere.> > Eleni> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > ............ ......... ......... ......... .....> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 -Hello everybody, thank you for all yr help. This whole matter actually was very good for me because it has helped me to expand my understanding of the device. Before I was taking things more for granted and made some assumptions that some were right, others were wrong and this helped to make some things clearer. I knew that the name and date of birth were important but I didnt realize how important it was for the device to find the person. Actually I tried to explain that to my client but it is not very comprehensible to the left logical quarter of the mind, mine too. Actually after the calibration and test, the feeling I had was as if nobody was actually tested, now that I think of it, it seemed that his intention was blocking his communication with the device. This was my intuition. Anyway can I conclude then that if I dont know somebodys name and date of birth I cannot test him on the SCIO even if I put the bands on him? yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait 48 hours before you tested again. I also would like to ask the meaning of a minus number in the calibration.This client of mine (who is not anymore) had minus 47 for voltage the first time, minus 26 the second time and when I tested him in his third appointment with his real name and demographic info (ten minutes after the test with the fake name), his voltage reading was again minus 46. As I explained before he has esophagus cancer, smokes even when I treat him with scio because he says he will go crazy, he is receiving chemotherapy and he has lost 25 kilos in 2 months, so he can hardly stand. His mind and willpower is very strong though. Also he is 68 yrs old. What amazed me in the first reading was that his cellular vitality was 8 (comparing with the -47 voltage) and then in the second was 1. For me it is very important to be able to read correctly these numbers, for my clients sake and mine and scio. It is not enough to know how to operate the device or use protocols but to understand and interpret what comes up, which many times I find confusing. I would be very interested in lessons that explain not only the numbers but whatever appears in the different tests/programs and many times people ask me what they mean and I say sorry I dont know. Again I would like to thank you all for yr help and information. Eleni -- In qxci-scio-epfx-english , Kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote: > > Sometimes we all get busy or have many things on our plate and cannot reply as fast and to the degree desired and since this has turned into a major topic lets go farther. >  > Okay, lets discuss the fundamentals of the device. >  > We have a biofeedback machine which works with the process of comparing a series of 5 frequencies during calibration and using with that the clients input information from Demographics to give a numerical interpretation to the stressors of the body. Will these influence key issues of the calibration? Yes! Why, is another topic and one that requires some reading; I would reference you to Kelsey's very scientific large manual for this...he is an engineer and goes into these facts. But, in general, those items of the Demographics, which tend to cause the most stress to the body electric, will (I repeat WILL) make the numbers of the Demographics change. If you wonder how, well do a bit of testing. Enter your client's information, which IS correct, and see the SOC and the VARHOPE scores. Now go back and remove them all for a baseline. Now enter in one of the items (i.e. water they consume) and then do the calibration and look at the > VARHOPE numbers...how did it affect how the body responded and the numbers read? Take that back to a zero (0) and do another...now what did it do? Remember each time you do this you need to list the person as new or use the existing but do a " modify " so that the demographics numbers are saved, new each time. >  > So the information you insert into Demographics will make differences on both the VARHOPE and the coloration of the test matrix. As to it's order of numbers those won't be affected, just the colors and how high the numbers list. Say for instance with all the demographics information you have a SOC of 250 this means the numbering system of the test matrix could be as high as the 200's or even 300's giving ideas of greater concern on areas that we might otherwise ignore. And this is the key issue; we tend to ignore what is not in red or light blue, so to help with this the computer gives us these as a place to observe. This is done by the interpretation of the frequencies that were done during the 3-minute test of the 10197 items as to how they resonated to our client. >  > Now why do we want this? Because, the client who is not eating healthy, or living a healthy life style needs to have those interpretations put into the mix. Allowing us to see a true picture of what is most probable. If you lie on Demographics will the information still show up on the Calibration (VARHOPE) or Test matrix? Often, but...only those things that they are most willing to unconsciously talk about, where by placing it manually, we get a better, suggested listing by what is probable to the stress of the body as well as the most relevant unconscious items. >  > Well I hope that helps some, and doesn't make it more confusing for others. The design of the machine by Professor was to be used WITH Demographics to assure its accuracy. >  > Yours in Health, > Kathy > www.vital-connection.com > www.4yourhealthshop.com >  > > > > varhope values > > I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked > me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very > embarassed. > > I would be grateful for some answere. > > Eleni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait 48 hours before you tested again." You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under "Body Electric Stress Parameters". By no means will you do a test with this process. Yours in Health, Kathy varhope values> > I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked > me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very > embarassed.> > I would be grateful for some answere.> > Eleni> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 In homeopathy, do the link from Risk Profile. It needs to be 100%. There are also YES/NO tests in Rectification and Unconscious Reactivity. Bye Sue varhope values> qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:05 AM> I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last> > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with> it with my > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously> sick with > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of> weight. > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings> are very > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and> electrons > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very> interested > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. > Today he asked > me to do his readings under a different name and age and> without any > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is> actually > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were> excellent, 95 > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He> told me > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses> the info I > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with> his > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could> not give > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an> explanation > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt> very > embarassed.> > I would be grateful for some answere.> > Eleni> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > ............ ......... ......... ......... .....> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Hello Eleni, n White has a fantastic Varhope Chart with explanations if you are interested. n White: Owner/Instructor South Bay Quantum Center 1611 S Catalina Ave Suite 210 Redondo Beach, CA 90277 310-540-3366 Also from my experience (which isn't too very much) In some countries, they do not ask any SOC questions. This is due to superstitions surrounding " Tarot Readers " , or, " Mind Reader " effect. They simply ask for basic name, POB, TOB (the EPFX will calculate TOB if not sure). In this instance of superstition; it has been reported that almost 95% of the time - the EPFX nailed some pretty pertanent info. Please excuse my spelling here. For instance my cat. The Racoons got a hold of her. I brought her up subspace immediately. 1st thing after I tested her was LEFT SCAPULA. I take her to the Vets 3 times and I keep telling them her left shoulder!! They take Xrays and after $1,000 they send me away telling me to keep her in a cage in the house for 4-6 weeks bedrest only. Are they kidding me? She is a Domesticated Bengal and I had to allow her freedom to roam about the house after 3 days as she was injuring herself more just trying to break out of the cage! It was the 2nd Xray (2nd visit) I insisted on that nailed what the EPFX had already told me: Fracture to the LEFT SCAPULA. She is doing fine but is housebound and I bring her up 2 times a week. I am rambling but I so often wonder. " Does this really work? " and I am constantly reminded " It DOES! " . Especially for animals that have no human ego or sense of time. Ego in humans can really disrupt a " SHIFT " . Interesting dialouge I have read here and I thank you for sharing. Trust your instincts (which is probably why you spent the money for this stupendous device in the first place). Remember as Kathy has indicated: " If you want something different; something has to change " . You can tell a human being their liver may need attention but will they stop drinking a pint of Vodka a day? See? Life is good and always fast and increasingly so, Joni www.BioTrodeTech.com > > > > Sometimes we all get busy or have many things on our plate and > cannot reply as fast and to the degree desired and since this has > turned into a major topic lets go farther. > >  > > Okay, lets discuss the fundamentals of the device. > >  > > We have a biofeedback machine which works with the process of > comparing a series of 5 frequencies during calibration and using with > that the clients input information from Demographics to give a > numerical interpretation to the stressors of the body. Will these > influence key issues of the calibration? Yes! Why, is another topic > and one that requires some reading; I would reference you to > Kelsey's very scientific large manual for this...he is an engineer > and goes into these facts. But, in general, those items of the > Demographics, which tend to cause the most stress to the body > electric, will (I repeat WILL) make the numbers of the Demographics > change. If you wonder how, well do a bit of testing. Enter your > client's information, which IS correct, and see the SOC and the > VARHOPE scores. Now go back and remove them all for a baseline. Now > enter in one of the items (i.e. water they consume) and then do the > calibration and look at the > > VARHOPE numbers...how did it affect how the body responded and the > numbers read? Take that back to a zero (0) and do another...now what > did it do? Remember each time you do this you need to list the > person as new or use the existing but do a " modify " so that the > demographics numbers are saved, new each time. > >  > > So the information you insert into Demographics will make > differences on both the VARHOPE and the coloration of the test > matrix. As to it's order of numbers those won't be affected, just > the colors and how high the numbers list. Say for instance with all > the demographics information you have a SOC of 250 this means the > numbering system of the test matrix could be as high as the 200's or > even 300's giving ideas of greater concern on areas that we might > otherwise ignore. And this is the key issue; we tend to ignore what > is not in red or light blue, so to help with this the computer gives > us these as a place to observe. This is done by the interpretation > of the frequencies that were done during the 3-minute test of the > 10197 items as to how they resonated to our client. > >  > > Now why do we want this? Because, the client who is not eating > healthy, or living a healthy life style needs to have those > interpretations put into the mix. Allowing us to see a true picture > of what is most probable. If you lie on Demographics will the > information still show up on the Calibration (VARHOPE) or Test > matrix? Often, but...only those things that they are most willing to > unconsciously talk about, where by placing it manually, we get a > better, suggested listing by what is probable to the stress of the > body as well as the most relevant unconscious items. > >  > > Well I hope that helps some, and doesn't make it more confusing for > others. The design of the machine by Professor was to be used > WITH Demographics to assure its accuracy. > >  > > Yours in Health, > > Kathy > > www.vital-connection.com > > www.4yourhealthshop.com > >  > > > > > > > > varhope values > > > > I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last > > December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with > my > > clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick > with > > esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. > > I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very > > low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons > > have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very > interested > > to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he > asked > > me to do his readings under a different name and age and without > any > > information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually > > reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 > > for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me > > that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info > I > > put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his > > previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give > > him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an > explanation > > myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very > > embarassed. > > > > I would be grateful for some answere. > > > > Eleni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Kathy, I tried doing what you suggested but when I went back to calibration I could not find a way to recalibrate, the message was that I have already done calibration and I should proceed to test. Is there some other place for recalibration? Thank you Eleni -- In qxci-scio-epfx-english , Kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote: > > In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in > demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do > the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait > 48 hours before you tested again. " >  > You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under " Body Electric Stress Parameters " . By no means will you do a test with this process. >  > Yours in Health, > Kathy >  > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 The calibration is adjusted by Search and clear field anomalies and then Adjust Calibration this gives the numbers you want to see under the Body Electric Stress Parameters. Yours in Health, Kathy From: parthenis <parthenis@...>qxci-scio-epfx-english Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:36:35 AMSubject: Re: varhope values Kathy, I tried doing what you suggested but when I went back to calibration I could not find a way to recalibrate, the message was that I have already done calibration and I should proceed to test. Is there some other place for recalibration?Thank youEleni-- In qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com, Kathy <kathyqx@... > wrote:>> In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in > demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do > the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait > 48 hours before you tested again." > > You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under "Body Electric Stress Parameters". By no means will you do a test with this process.> > Yours in Health,> Kathy> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 How can you have a person hooked up to the machine with the wrong information and expect reliable results. Are you playing games. You are insulting the Superconscious. Another point is your intent on using the device you must act in a serious way and do not giveaway to patients whims Please get good training on how to use the device and then the problems you mention will not happen.Best Regards Branco QuantuMedical Ltd. Branco LCPHLondon MARH UK FBIH ILQBT Baseler Straße 12 D-12205 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 3010 1163 Mobile: +49 176 2079 6804 http://www.quantumedical.de http://www.sciosan.com This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. qxci-scio-epfx-english From: mail@...Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:06:35 +0000Subject: Re: varhope values The conference would have delayed the moderation of our site. Patience. varhope values I am a therapist and Yoga teacher and I bought the SCIO last December, I had my trainings and I have been working with it with my clients. I have been working with a client who is seriously sick with esophagus cancer. He smokes a lot and he has lost a lot of weight. I have done three sessions with him. His varhope readings are very low, -47 for voltage, 1 for amperage and his protons and electrons have a very big difference indicating acidity. He is very interested to the SCIO and he wanted to understand how it works. Today he asked me to do his readings under a different name and age and without any information input. He wanted to understand if the scio is actually reading his energy. I did this and his readings were excellent, 95 for voltage and no difference in protons and electrons. He told me that obviously the scio is not reading his energy but uses the info I put in to give results. He asked me to do a reading with his previous profile and the readings were as before. I could not give him an explanation, and I would be very interested in an explanation myself from somebody who knows how the scio works. I felt very embarassed.I would be grateful for some answere.Eleni Win £1000 shopping sprees with BigSnapSearch.com Search now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Correct me if I am wrong. Professor W. as said that calibrating once is the right thing to do, and attempts at getting higher Calibration % is not necessary. When Calibrating the SCIO sends a combination of special frequencies with the intention to get a definite reaction, to repeatedly calibrate stresses the Clients unduly. Be happy with the first attempt. I believe that repeatedly calibrating is an attempt from the practitioner rational conscious mind to get (more is better) in the box mind set.Announcement: HelloI want to bring to your attention the Device SCIO/EPFX, a truly amazing Analyzing and Treatment System that will greatly enhance your practice and the life of your patients/clients.Please take a minute and visit our website, www.quantumedical.de in English.Contact me on this email for further details without compromise, Thank you.QuantuMedical Ltd. Branco LCPH London MARH UK FBIH ILQBT Baseler Straße 12 D-12205 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 3010 1163 Mobile: +49 176 2079 6804 http://www.quantumedical.de http://www.sciosan.com This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. qxci-scio-epfx-english From: kathyqx@...Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:31:23 -0800Subject: Re: varhope values The calibration is adjusted by Search and clear field anomalies and then Adjust Calibration this gives the numbers you want to see under the Body Electric Stress Parameters. Yours in Health, Kathy From: parthenis <parthenis >qxci-scio-epfx-english Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:36:35 AMSubject: Re: varhope values Kathy, I tried doing what you suggested but when I went back to calibration I could not find a way to recalibrate, the message was that I have already done calibration and I should proceed to test. Is there some other place for recalibration?Thank youEleni-- In qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com, Kathy <kathyqx@... > wrote:>> In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in > demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do > the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait > 48 hours before you tested again." > > You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under "Body Electric Stress Parameters". By no means will you do a test with this process.> > Yours in Health,> Kathy> > > > > > > Click here for FREE customisable desktop wallpapers. Get them Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 He also said it is better NOT to do the fast track calibration to link into your comments. Bye Sue Re: varhope values Kathy, I tried doing what you suggested but when I went back to calibration I could not find a way to recalibrate, the message was that I have already done calibration and I should proceed to test. Is there some other place for recalibration?Thank youEleni-- In qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com, Kathy <kathyqx@... > wrote:>> In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in > demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do > the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait > 48 hours before you tested again." > > You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under "Body Electric Stress Parameters". By no means will you do a test with this process.> > Yours in Health,> Kathy> > > > > > > Click here for FREE customisable desktop wallpapers. Get them Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Hi , It seems to me it would be a very easy programming change to make it so you could only calibrate once, or even to auto-recalibrate if the % is below, say 80. But I do follow your thinking and agree. To me, the calibrating part always seemed like a reaching out of the SCIO to the client. Even the handshake picture normally shows up while calibrating. In that case, it is only normal for us to think more is better because it applies to everything else in science. Kind regards, Dave Naples, FL Branco wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. Professor W. as said that calibrating once is the right thing to do, and attempts at getting higher Calibration % is not necessary. When Calibrating the SCIO sends a combination of special frequencies with the intention to get a definite reaction, to repeatedly calibrate stresses the Clients unduly. Be happy with the first attempt. I believe that repeatedly calibrating is an attempt from the practitioner rational conscious mind to get (more is better) in the box mind set. Announcement: Hello I want to bring to your attention the Device SCIO/EPFX, a truly amazing Analyzing and Treatment System that will greatly enhance your practice and the life of your patients/clients. Please take a minute and visit our website, www.quantumedical.de in English. Contact me on this email for further details without compromise, Thank you. QuantuMedical Ltd. Branco LCPH London MARH UK FBIH ILQBT Baseler Straße 12 D-12205 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 3010 1163 Mobile: +49 176 2079 6804 http://www.quantumedical.de http://www.sciosan.com This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. qxci-scio-epfx-english From: kathyqxsbcglobal (DOT) net Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:31:23 -0800 Subject: Re: varhope values The calibration is adjusted by Search and clear field anomalies and then Adjust Calibration this gives the numbers you want to see under the Body Electric Stress Parameters. Yours in Health, Kathy From: parthenis <parthenis > qxci-scio-epfx-english Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:36:35 AM Subject: Re: varhope values Kathy, I tried doing what you suggested but when I went back to calibration I could not find a way to recalibrate, the message was that I have already done calibration and I should proceed to test. Is there some other place for recalibration? Thank you Eleni -- In qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com, Kathy <kathyqx@... > wrote: > > In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in > demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do > the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait > 48 hours before you tested again." > > You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under "Body Electric Stress Parameters". By no means will you do a test with this process. > > Yours in Health, > Kathy > > > > > > > Click here for FREE customisable desktop wallpapers. Get them Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yes Bill answered my question on multiple calibration attempts by saying calibrate once and if the device says proceed to test, then proceed to test. Additionally the device will recalibrate throughout various programs as needed. Barry Hall Re: varhope values Kathy, I tried doing what you suggested but when I went back to calibration I could not find a way to recalibrate, the message was that I have already done calibration and I should proceed to test. Is there some other place for recalibration?Thank youEleni-- In qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com, Kathy <kathyqx@... > wrote:>> In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in > demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do > the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait > 48 hours before you tested again." > > You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under "Body Electric Stress Parameters". By no means will you do a test with this process.> > Yours in Health,> Kathy> > > > > > > Click here for FREE customisable desktop wallpapers. Get them Now! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1803 - Release Date: 11/21/2008 9:37 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 test Re: varhope values Kathy, I tried doing what you suggested but when I went back to calibration I could not find a way to recalibrate, the message was that I have already done calibration and I should proceed to test. Is there some other place for recalibration?Thank youEleni-- In qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com, Kathy <kathyqx@... > wrote:>> In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in > demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do > the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait > 48 hours before you tested again." > > You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under "Body Electric Stress Parameters". By no means will you do a test with this process.> > Yours in Health,> Kathy> > > > > > > Click here for FREE customisable desktop wallpapers. Get them Now! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1803 - Release Date: 11/21/2008 9:37 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yes Bill answered my question on multiple calibration attempts by saying calibrate once and if the device says proceed to test, then proceed to test. Additionally the device will recalibrate throughout various programs as needed. Barry Hall Re: varhope values Kathy, I tried doing what you suggested but when I went back to calibration I could not find a way to recalibrate, the message was that I have already done calibration and I should proceed to test. Is there some other place for recalibration?Thank youEleni-- In qxci-scio-epfx- english@gro ups.com, Kathy <kathyqx@... > wrote:>> In reply to " yr suggestion how to test and find out how each element in > demographics affect the numbers is very interesting. But can you do > the calibration and test again and again? I thought you have to wait > 48 hours before you tested again." > > You would not be testing each time. Remember the calibration is what gives the VARHOPE scores. You would only go in change the Demographics (be sure to modify and save) and then recalibrate. This is not the hard part on the body electric. Remember the system is recalibrating throughout the whole session (remember the long red bar which showes up). The VARHOPE score is then accessible within the Calibration page under "Body Electric Stress Parameters". By no means will you do a test with this process.> > Yours in Health,> Kathy> > > > > > > Click here for FREE customisable desktop wallpapers. Get them Now! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1803 - Release Date: 11/21/2008 9:37 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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