Re: yogurt(was: Uncle Sam Wants You Fat)

[Guest guest]

When it comes to food prep I'm pretty lazy... I make 2qts of kefir at a pop,

and then with a blender mix in berries and little sucralose before

re-filling old yogurt containers. Two qts low fat milk and some berries

fills about 10-12 typical yogurt containers.

Cheaper, better, and IMO easier to pick up a half gallon of milk vs all

those yogurt containers... I'm even recycling my yogurt containers.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:55 AM

Subject: [ ] yogurt(was: Uncle Sam Wants You Fat)

Yogurt can be bought plain non-fat w/active cultures. You can add vanilla

(if that's your flavor of preference) and sucralose (or whatever your low

calorie sweetner of choice is) making it a low cal excellent food choice.

Or add any other flavorings, such as fruit, coffee, cocoa etc.

Not only is it healthier this way and saves calories, it's probably a lot

cheaper. My store brand here in DC makes it and it's the least expensive.

Of course many in the group make their own yogurt/kefir. But for us lazy

folks, there exist these alternatives.

on 6/23/2004 11:37 AM, maxwell_mom at mrobinso@... wrote:

>

>> <snip>

>> Alkthough I'm an adult, I think the study gives pause for adults as

>> well as children. So far, my CRON eating plan includes a one half

>> serving of Stonyfield Organic vanilla yogurt (2 grams of fat/ 190

>> cals per serving)a day.I suppose if I avoid multiple servings of

> it,

>> I'm in the clear ;-).

[Guest guest]

Hi , (Off List)

Practical also!

How do you make kefir?

How do you make yogurt?

I have plenty of containers I'd much prefer to refill.

Take care, Easy

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john roberts wrote:

When it comes to food prep I'm pretty lazy... I make 2qts of kefir at a

pop,

and then with a blender mix in berries and little sucralose before

re-filling old yogurt containers. Two qts low fat milk and some berries

fills about 10-12 typical yogurt containers.

Cheaper, better, and IMO easier to pick up a half gallon of milk vs all

those yogurt containers... I'm even recycling my yogurt containers.

JR

[Guest guest]

I have found items marked with " plain " flavor, but have sugar added in

the ingredients. Usually, this is with soy milk. This is fine for those

that choose to use small amounts of sugar, but I usually feel like I

have to hunt for the products that don't have it.

Francesca Skelton wrote:

>Yogurt can be bought plain non-fat w/active cultures. You can add vanilla (if

that's your flavor of preference) and sucralose (or whatever your low

>calorie sweetner of choice is) making it a low cal excellent food choice. Or

add any other flavorings, such as fruit, coffee, cocoa etc.

>

>

[Guest guest]

There's no such thing as plain yogurt anymore, not where I buy. Even the dannon has pectin added. It's really surprising that they can keep "developing" a product until it's no longer useable. They can't leave a dam thing alone.

If I want yogurt I'll make it. Dannon seems to be ok for that.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: apricot85

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:07 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] yogurt(was: Uncle Sam Wants You Fat)

I have found items marked with "plain" flavor, but have sugar added in the ingredients. Usually, this is with soy milk. This is fine for those that choose to use small amounts of sugar, but I usually feel like I have to hunt for the products that don't have it.

[Guest guest]

Pectin is a water-soluble fiber, commonly found in ripening fruit.

It's found naturally in the albedo of oranges and lemons, and

apple

pomace.

I am a newbie but I think people of the CRON should love pectin. If

it was inexpensive I could imagine it being added as a staple to

various dishes – including non-fat yoghurt!

From the LEF (they sell it as a food additive):

" Apple pectin is a water-soluble fiber, helpful in removing

cholesterol out of the intestines and delaying glucose absorption.

Pectin is one of the compounds that acts as a substrate for the

production of short chain fatty acids that help maintain a healthy

colonic mucosa. "

http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00105.html

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

There's no such thing as plain yogurt anymore, not where I buy. Even

the dannon has pectin added. It's really surprising that they can

keep " developing " a product until it's no longer useable. They can't

leave a dam thing alone.

[Guest guest]

I agree and don't understand the objection to pectin.

on 6/25/2004 5:46 PM, at scott@... wrote:

> Pectin is a water-soluble fiber, commonly found in ripening fruit.

> It's found naturally in the albedo of oranges and lemons, and

> apple

> pomace.

>

> I am a newbie but I think people of the CRON should love pectin. If

> it was inexpensive I could imagine it being added as a staple to

> various dishes – including non-fat yoghurt!

>

> From the LEF (they sell it as a food additive):

> " Apple pectin is a water-soluble fiber, helpful in removing

> cholesterol out of the intestines and delaying glucose absorption.

> Pectin is one of the compounds that acts as a substrate for the

> production of short chain fatty acids that help maintain a healthy

> colonic mucosa. "

>

> http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00105.html

[Guest guest]

The pectin is not all that bothersome - it's the fact that the significant data on the label is getting smaller and I have to read every one of them on certain items. I see yogurt going the way of cottage cheese. They've already squeezed corn syrup into "yogurt" - some day all foods will be mostly corn syrup (and salt - don't forget salt).

Regards.

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From:

Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 4:46 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: yogurt(was: Uncle Sam Wants You Fat)

Pectin is a water-soluble fiber, commonly found in ripening fruit. It's found naturally in the albedo of oranges and lemons, andapple pomace.I am a newbie but I think people of the CRON should love pectin. If it was inexpensive I could imagine it being added as a staple to various dishes – including non-fat yoghurt!From the LEF (they sell it as a food additive):"Apple pectin is a water-soluble fiber, helpful in removing cholesterol out of the intestines and delaying glucose absorption. Pectin is one of the compounds that acts as a substrate for the production of short chain fatty acids that help maintain a healthy colonic mucosa."http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00105.htmlThere's no such thing as plain yogurt anymore, not where I buy. Even the dannon has pectin added. It's really surprising that they can keep "developing" a product until it's no longer useable. They can't leave a dam thing alone.

[Guest guest]

I don't have a problem with dannon. Someone commented that it interfered with using dannon as a starter. I didn't have that problem either. My comment was that it's not the yogurt that was sold 50 yrs ago. It uses the liquid that was once removed and thickened to suck up the water. OTOH, no one in these groups would eat that nasty stuff of 50 yrs ago. They are too taste conscious. Of course, no one would ever have thought of adding sugar or corn syrup or other sweetener to yogurt.

Yogurt was a health food in 1946, per Gaylord Houser. According to some he wrote the first book on nutrition. He appeared on the Arthur Godfrey show when tv first appeared inn the forties. AG's show preceded Garry moore's show, which preceded Regis.

Back then corn syrup was an additive to can milk for formula, so you'll have to forgive me if I have this perception that people today are babies when it comes to taste. And that's why they're getting fatter.

They also can't leave anything alone.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Francesca Skelton

Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 5:16 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: yogurt(was: Uncle Sam Wants You Fat)

I agree and don't understand the objection to pectin.on 6/25/2004 5:46 PM, at scott@... wrote:> Pectin is a water-soluble fiber, commonly found in ripening fruit.> It's found naturally in the albedo of oranges and lemons, and> apple > pomace.> > I am a newbie but I think people of the CRON should love pectin. If> it was inexpensive I could imagine it being added as a staple to> various dishes – including non-fat yoghurt!> > From the LEF (they sell it as a food additive):> "Apple pectin is a water-soluble fiber, helpful in removing> cholesterol out of the intestines and delaying glucose absorption.> Pectin is one of the compounds that acts as a substrate for the> production of short chain fatty acids that help maintain a healthy> colonic mucosa."

[Guest guest]

Pectin is great for making jams and jellies, but in yogurt it kills the L. Acidophilus so you don't get the benefit of that bacteria in your intestines.

R.

From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:16:19 -0400

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Subject: Re: [ ] Re: yogurt(was: Uncle Sam Wants You Fat)

I agree and don't understand the objection to pectin.

on 6/25/2004 5:46 PM, at scott@... wrote:

> Pectin is a water-soluble fiber, commonly found in ripening fruit.

> It's found naturally in the albedo of oranges and lemons, and

> apple

> pomace.

>

> I am a newbie but I think people of the CRON should love pectin. If

> it was inexpensive I could imagine it being added as a staple to

> various dishes – including non-fat yoghurt!

>

> From the LEF (they sell it as a food additive):

> " Apple pectin is a water-soluble fiber, helpful in removing

> cholesterol out of the intestines and delaying glucose absorption.

> Pectin is one of the compounds that acts as a substrate for the

> production of short chain fatty acids that help maintain a healthy

> colonic mucosa. "

>

> http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00105.html

[Guest guest]

If pectin kills L..Acidolphilus, this is indeed bad news. I have used plain non-fat Dannon yogurt for years and eat it every day. Can you give us a source of your information about this? It would be helpful to explore this subject further.

Jayne