IMUNE Biofeedback License

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Rita, do not be defensive, I am not trying to be, but I am trying to make

sure you and the others understand the " goal " of IMUNE. I am not paid to be

on the board, nor are the Dr's or attorneys on the board, although I'm sure

there are paid attorneys for documentation that will later need done but

they are NOT on the board.

|As to your concern for licensing, go for what makes YOU feel comfortable

and what you need for now. But do not rule out the possibility that the

other may turn out to be what you need also down the road. Let's not jump

to the conclusion that this board will or will not provide what is needed

but understand the goal of the board is to help ALL who have biofeedback

skills, abilities and needs.

You are correct on your concerns, and I have not said otherwise, what I did

say was to please address the concerns to the powers to be, to see and find

out IF they would be resolved, dealt with and provide us with what we truly

need.

Do I live in the USA, yes, do I live in Wisconsin NO, I live in Michigan and

like you I have to watch that what I " Profess " to have IS legal and what I

need. What does that mean? It means that I am happy to try and help a

board made up of Biofeedback specialists, of all fields, from all countries;

to TRY and get through all this messy legal junk to get us better protection

and serve all of us AS WE ALL NEED. For the USA, the Canadians, and every

other country.

I guess my question right now is why is everyone getting in an uproar about

something that is still in the works and has not come to pass. There is NO

license from IMUNE or anywhere else currently for Biofeedback in the USA.

Now wouldn't it make since for someone, anyone who knows the field to try

and get one established that is legally accepted rather than sit back and do

nothing and wait until it possibly becomes a reality of need. This is not

something that can be done overnight, maybe it won't be able to be done at

all, or maybe it can. But as of now what harm is there to attempt to make

it better in the future? If not Bill's original named school " Imune " then

someone else's. Have any choices for someone else? Id like to hear it.

As to the school being originally set up for Destiny's purpose write Bill

and ask him. If it is non-profit it can not be done that way, if it is not

non-profit and is a business then who controls any profits down the road? I

guess when it comes to that question I think this way, each of us has set up

a business, some for non-profit, but most as a income whether for you, your

boss, a college fund for the profits; the choice belongs to each of us when

we set up a business, doesn't it? As we also choose how much we charge our

clients. But, unless we are a doctor we can only provide a service not

prescribe, or heal all this falls into rules and laws we must follow. The

same thing goes with IMUNE or any other company, the laws are there and the

board and the company must follow them, if they cannot then they cannot

offer the service.

And as to me telling people to get an illegal license and being in trouble??

What are you talking about? Have I once told any of you to get a license or

that one is even available? Please do not place blame on me where there is

none. All I have right now is HOPE and the willingness to try and help make

this a LEGAL attempt in the future, worked out WITH the states and other

countries.

So do we want IMUNE to try and go on or do we want to give up before we even

make an attempt? Many of us know how the attempt went before, that is why

it did not go far and why things have changed. Lets here it people, why

don't we let Bill know as well as the Board of IMUNE, do you want this to be

attempted? Pass or fail, or do you want it over and done with now? This

chat line is for you! For the purpose of helping each other grow and to

help correct misconceptions and to help us support each other It is time to

use your voice.

Happy Holidays,

Yours in Health,

Kathy

IMUNE Biofeedback License

Kathy wrote:

" I wanted to personally mention to you there are attorneys on the board of

Imune and Doctors to try and make sure that problems like you are worried

about are looked into. "

Well , those attorneys are working for IMUNE and not me or any other

biofeedback therapist. I live in California and in this state the

California State Attorneys Office tells me they will prosecute me for using

an illegal license if I obtain an IMUNE biofeedback license. They also told

me they would not prosecute me for having a spiritual healer's license.

Which one do you think might serve me better?

Dr. Rima Laibow lives in New York State and her attorney general's office

told her the same thing. They said if she's convicted they will revoke her

medical license. That office also told her they would prosecute IMUNE for

issuing a worthless license because that's illegal in New York. She told

them IMUNE is a British Virgin Island corporation and their response was

then the only person they could prosecute would be her.

But of course the IMUNE attorneys are telling you and the board that there's

no problem. For you and the corporation there isn't because the British

Virgin Islands won't give you up.

But, for those of us in California and New York there is a very definite

problem. In the USA and Canada as New York and California go the rest of

North America follows. I think any American or Canadian who gets involved

with an IMUNE Biofeedback license has a big legal problem.

Don't you live in the USA ? Last I heard Wisconsin was still part of

the USA. Please believe me when I say you could have a very serious legal

problem if you keep telling people to get what appears to be an illegal

license.

And by the way, the pharmaceutical companies in North America have a lot of

money to prove IMUNE is an illegal license set up to subsidize Bill 's

daughter Destiny and that's fraud and Bill already has a conviction for

fraud in America. How do you think that's going to play in the press and in

the courts of North America and Europe?

If you want a license, my suggestion is to go get a legal one.

Happy Holidays,

Rita

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It seems to me that working under an ordained ministerial certificate

should be safe. However, in California (or any state) you have to be

really careful when you're doing any sort of " on the edge " work,

including astrology or any sort of " looking into the future. " Laws

can vary from city to city. I knew an extraordinarily gifted psychic

in Half Moon Bay who was dragged off to jail for doing readings. She

moved to San Francisco and was safe. Sometimes there are old laws on

the books of different towns that can be interpreted in some creative

ways. Who knows, if someone is after your ass, they might interpret

the QX as a form of divination. is Rotella

- In qxci-english , " Rita Baker " <RitaBaker1939@h...>

wrote:

>

> Kathy wrote:

>

> " I wanted to personally mention to you there are attorneys on the

board of

> Imune and Doctors to try and make sure that problems like you are

worried

> about are looked into. "

>

> Well , those attorneys are working for IMUNE and not me or any

other

> biofeedback therapist. I live in California and in this state the

> California State Attorneys Office tells me they will prosecute me

for using

> an illegal license if I obtain an IMUNE biofeedback license. They

also told

> me they would not prosecute me for having a spiritual healer's

license.

> Which one do you think might serve me better?

>

> Dr. Rima Laibow lives in New York State and her attorney general's

office

> told her the same thing. They said if she's convicted they will

revoke her

> medical license. That office also told her they would prosecute

IMUNE for

> issuing a worthless license because that's illegal in New York. She

told

> them IMUNE is a British Virgin Island corporation and their response

was

> then the only person they could prosecute would be her.

>

> But of course the IMUNE attorneys are telling you and the board that

there's

> no problem. For you and the corporation there isn't because the

British

> Virgin Islands won't give you up.

>

> But, for those of us in California and New York there is a very

definite

> problem. In the USA and Canada as New York and California go the

rest of

> North America follows. I think any American or Canadian who gets

involved

> with an IMUNE Biofeedback license has a big legal problem.

>

> Don't you live in the USA ? Last I heard Wisconsin was still

part of

> the USA. Please believe me when I say you could have a very serious

legal

> problem if you keep telling people to get what appears to be an illegal

> license.

>

> And by the way, the pharmaceutical companies in North America have a

lot of

> money to prove IMUNE is an illegal license set up to subsidize Bill

's

> daughter Destiny and that's fraud and Bill already has a conviction for

> fraud in America. How do you think that's going to play in the

press and in

> the courts of North America and Europe?

>

> If you want a license, my suggestion is to go get a legal one.

>

> Happy Holidays,

> Rita

>

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My vote is for IMUNE or whoever to go for it.

I think it would be great to get this cleared up.

Dwight

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IMUNE Biofeedback LicenseKathy wrote:"I wanted to personally mention to you there are attorneys on the board ofImune and Doctors to try and make sure that problems like you are worriedabout are looked into."Well , those attorneys are working for IMUNE and not me or any otherbiofeedback therapist. I live in California and in this state theCalifornia State Attorneys Office tells me they will prosecute me for usingan illegal license if I obtain an IMUNE biofeedback license. They also toldme they would not prosecute me for having a spiritual healer's license.Which one do you think might serve me better?Dr. Rima Laibow lives in New York State and her attorney general's officetold her the same thing. They said if she's convicted they will revoke hermedical license. That office also told her they would prosecute IMUNE forissuing a worthless license because that's illegal in New York. She toldthem IMUNE is a British Virgin Island corporation and their response wasthen the only person they could prosecute would be her.But of course the IMUNE attorneys are telling you and the board that there'sno problem. For you and the corporation there isn't because the BritishVirgin Islands won't give you up.But, for those of us in California and New York there is a very definiteproblem. In the USA and Canada as New York and California go the rest ofNorth America follows. I think any American or Canadian who gets involvedwith an IMUNE Biofeedback license has a big legal problem.Don't you live in the USA ? Last I heard Wisconsin was still part ofthe USA. Please believe me when I say you could have a very serious legalproblem if you keep telling people to get what appears to be an illegallicense.And by the way, the pharmaceutical companies in North America have a lot ofmoney to prove IMUNE is an illegal license set up to subsidize Bill 'sdaughter Destiny and that's fraud and Bill already has a conviction forfraud in America. How do you think that's going to play in the press and inthe courts of North America and Europe?If you want a license, my suggestion is to go get a legal one.Happy Holidays,Rita_________________________________________________________________Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE!http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/............................................

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Dear Group, First let me wish each of you all the best in the coming year. Secondly, I'm so confused with the letters going back and forth as to licensure, certifications and whatever else falls into this category... As a practitioner, I would like the advice of those who have walked the path before me... What is the best approach? Certification first and from whom? If some organization is trying go create a legitmate licensure for biofeedback personnel,

doesn't it make sense to allow this to take place? I have learnt so much from so many practitioners who are devoted to helping anyone in the group. At times, I am very distressed that discussions seem to be attacking the very people who are trying to be helpful... I often wonder, what is that person's intent or purpose??? Our goal is to bring balance into people's lives - including our own... I hope that all those who participate here remember that...This is a place to exchange information regarding the EPFX and SCIO and learn from others who have earned our deep respect. Wishing you always...blessings...light...love...wellness... ~diane~

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We are currently awaiting final opinion from an experienced legal team in the USA re International Licenses from IMUNE and expect to release the definitive text shortly. At present the information supports our previous statements.

Kelsey

Vice Chancellor IMUNE(Away from UK until 9th Jan 06)

IMUNE Biofeedback LicenseKathy wrote:"I wanted to personally mention to you there are attorneys on the board ofImune and Doctors to try and make sure that problems like you are worriedabout are looked into."Well , those attorneys are working for IMUNE and not me or any otherbiofeedback therapist. I live in California and in this state theCalifornia State Attorneys Office tells me they will prosecute me for usingan illegal license if I obtain an IMUNE biofeedback license. They also toldme they would not prosecute me for having a spiritual healer's license.Which one do you think might serve me better?Dr. Rima Laibow lives in New York State and her attorney general's officetold her the same thing. They said if she's convicted they will revoke hermedical license. That office also told her they would prosecute IMUNE forissuing a worthless license because that's illegal in New York. She toldthem IMUNE is a British Virgin Island corporation and their response wasthen the only person they could prosecute would be her.But of course the IMUNE attorneys are telling you and the board that there'sno problem. For you and the corporation there isn't because the BritishVirgin Islands won't give you up.But, for those of us in California and New York there is a very definiteproblem. In the USA and Canada as New York and California go the rest ofNorth America follows. I think any American or Canadian who gets involvedwith an IMUNE Biofeedback license has a big legal problem.Don't you live in the USA ? Last I heard Wisconsin was still part ofthe USA. Please believe me when I say you could have a very serious legalproblem if you keep telling people to get what appears to be an illegallicense.And by the way, the pharmaceutical companies in North America have a lot ofmoney to prove IMUNE is an illegal license set up to subsidize Bill 'sdaughter Destiny and that's fraud and Bill already has a conviction forfraud in America. How do you think that's going to play in the press and inthe courts of North America and Europe?If you want a license, my suggestion is to go get a legal one.Happy Holidays,Rita_________________________________________________________________Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE!http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/............................................