Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Totally nasty. They just activated 4G LTE in Flint, MI, where my health food store is. Oh yes I could feel that stuff. My leg started to spasm the minute I entered that area. For me, the shielding did help me (my legs aren't covered by the fabric)...and I had to discharge rinsing head and feet in water 3-4 times when I got back. My heart goes out to everyone who has that where they live. Lizzie From: loni326@... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:27:57 -0700 Subject: Posts & Toxic Exposures Well said Lizzie! And this nerve damaging 4G LTE the cell industry is porliferating every where. I can't seem to avoid this toxic frequency and am paying the price. We all will. Loni From: thode <lizt777@...> Subject: RE: Re: Flying American Airlines esens Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:05 AM Gosh, I was under the impression that esens was a support group. Yes, we do have to read and wade thru various writings to mine the gold that speaks to specific issues. And yes, some solutions can be pricey. But the true blame is on corporate corruption; that we should have to spend precious time/energy UN DOING the damage caused by profiteering monsters. And for way too many, smart meters and their mega biological assaults were NOT an issue a few years ago. Lizzie From: maureenan2@... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:10:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Flying American Airlines I quite agree with you and see how posts that could help people are literally buried under 'chit chat'. It never used to be a few years ago. People come here often disabled and suffering from the effects of the technology that is killing them and because of it of course many are unable to work and don't have money for expensive things that may not work. It's a good point you made. Maureen UK > > > From: Marc <marc@...> > Subject: Re: Flying American Airlines > > Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 1:29 PM > > > > > > > > The back of the plane is the least safe part of the plane according to crash data statistics. > > Really? I thought that most of the survivors of plane crashes were in the back of the plane. > But of course, this is off-topic... :-) > > I only choose the back of the plane because there is no chance that there will be someone > behind me with nasty electronics. Depending on the airplane seating configuration, there > may be other good places to sit that keeps you away from the electronics that people > bring with them. > > Marc > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Loni, now that I think about it, you might do better, if it turns out the fabric works for you, to wear like a long poncho/ or like a shirt dress over your body...maybe even with a built in hood. No they don't make one..but remembering how my leg started to spasm that day..this would give some cover to at least some of the leg area. its worth thinking about. Can't be that hard to make. I'm game. You can email me direct at: lizt777@... to keep the chitter down. Lizzie From: loni326@... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:27:57 -0700 Subject: Posts & Toxic Exposures Well said Lizzie! And this nerve damaging 4G LTE the cell industry is porliferating every where. I can't seem to avoid this toxic frequency and am paying the price. We all will. Loni From: thode <lizt777@...> Subject: RE: Re: Flying American Airlines esens Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:05 AM Gosh, I was under the impression that esens was a support group. Yes, we do have to read and wade thru various writings to mine the gold that speaks to specific issues. And yes, some solutions can be pricey. But the true blame is on corporate corruption; that we should have to spend precious time/energy UN DOING the damage caused by profiteering monsters. And for way too many, smart meters and their mega biological assaults were NOT an issue a few years ago. Lizzie From: maureenan2@... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:10:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Flying American Airlines I quite agree with you and see how posts that could help people are literally buried under 'chit chat'. It never used to be a few years ago. People come here often disabled and suffering from the effects of the technology that is killing them and because of it of course many are unable to work and don't have money for expensive things that may not work. It's a good point you made. Maureen UK > > > From: Marc <marc@...> > Subject: Re: Flying American Airlines > > Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 1:29 PM > > > > > > > > The back of the plane is the least safe part of the plane according to crash data statistics. > > Really? I thought that most of the survivors of plane crashes were in the back of the plane. > But of course, this is off-topic... :-) > > I only choose the back of the plane because there is no chance that there will be someone > behind me with nasty electronics. Depending on the airplane seating configuration, there > may be other good places to sit that keeps you away from the electronics that people > bring with them. > > Marc > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 We have used T-Shirts ans normal Shirts and caps in the past. Be aware NOT to wear them on the skin, but always over some underclothing. Washing may break the silver wires. And after some time, the material gets satidfied with the negative energy and starts emitting it. Therefore, we used selfmade inlays in the caps, and exchanged them regularly. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Re: Flying American Airlines > > Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 1:29 PM > > > > > > > > The back of the plane is the least safe part of the plane according to crash data statistics. > > Really? I thought that most of the survivors of plane crashes were in the back of the plane. > But of course, this is off-topic... :-) > > I only choose the back of the plane because there is no chance that there will be someone > behind me with nasty electronics. Depending on the airplane seating configuration, there > may be other good places to sit that keeps you away from the electronics that people > bring with them. > > Marc > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 , that is interesting....we do wear the high performance silver mess on our skin. It has never bothered us or presented a problem. Maybe its because we DO discharge the excess static- rinsing our heads/using the water process I use. We don't wash ours, we hang and AIR them out. But there are many diff't types of this fabric. I listed the one we use... did you use something else? and could also be a matter of dffferent environments/emfs and different physiologies/ Lizzie From: charles@... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:59:38 +0200 Subject: Re: Posts & Toxic Exposures We have used T-Shirts ans normal Shirts and caps in the past. Be aware NOT to wear them on the skin, but always over some underclothing. Washing may break the silver wires. And after some time, the material gets satidfied with the negative energy and starts emitting it. Therefore, we used selfmade inlays in the caps, and exchanged them regularly. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Re: Flying American Airlines > > Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 1:29 PM > > > > > > > > The back of the plane is the least safe part of the plane according to crash data statistics. > > Really? I thought that most of the survivors of plane crashes were in the back of the plane. > But of course, this is off-topic... :-) > > I only choose the back of the plane because there is no chance that there will be someone > behind me with nasty electronics. Depending on the airplane seating configuration, there > may be other good places to sit that keeps you away from the electronics that people > bring with them. > > Marc > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Do you wear this shirt & boxers underneath your clothes or over them? I'm not sure about a poncho style. But something to think about.  Yes we need to keep the chitter down so we don't bother ! ha Loni From: thode <lizt777@...> Subject: RE: Re: Flying American Airlines esens Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:05 AM Gosh, I was under the impression that esens was a support group. Yes, we do have to read and wade thru various writings to mine the gold that speaks to specific issues. And yes, some solutions can be pricey. But the true blame is on corporate corruption; that we should have to spend precious time/energy UN DOING the damage caused by profiteering monsters. And for way too many, smart meters and their mega biological assaults were NOT an issue a few years ago. Lizzie From: maureenan2@... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:10:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Flying American Airlines I quite agree with you and see how posts that could help people are literally buried under 'chit chat'. It never used to be a few years ago. People come here often disabled and suffering from the effects of the technology that is killing them and because of it of course many are unable to work and don't have money for expensive things that may not work. It's a good point you made. Maureen UK > > > From: Marc <marc@...> > Subject: Re: Flying American Airlines > > Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 1:29 PM > > > > > > > > The back of the plane is the least safe part of the plane according to crash data statistics. > > Really? I thought that most of the survivors of plane crashes were in the back of the plane. > But of course, this is off-topic... :-) > > I only choose the back of the plane because there is no chance that there will be someone > behind me with nasty electronics. Depending on the airplane seating configuration, there > may be other good places to sit that keeps you away from the electronics that people > bring with them. > > Marc > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Under our clothes..on top of underwear...underneath jeans and shirt. Yea, poncho would be too in the way...maybe a loose, comfortablly fitted two piece shirt dress? would give more easy movement, more coverage to body. Loni, if you go the NExt UP website, they show ES people wearing just the fabric, basically sheet style, draped over their clothes. The point is, there are options- First, make sure the fabric works for you...then decide which style would work best for you. What's the saying: " Desperation is the Mother of Creativity or Ingenuity? " Lizzie From: loni326@... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 22:55:38 -0700 Subject: RE: Posts & Toxic Exposures Do you wear this shirt & boxers underneath your clothes or over them? I'm not sure about a poncho style. But something to think about. Yes we need to keep the chitter down so we don't bother ! ha Loni From: thode <lizt777@...> Subject: RE: Re: Flying American Airlines esens Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:05 AM Gosh, I was under the impression that esens was a support group. Yes, we do have to read and wade thru various writings to mine the gold that speaks to specific issues. And yes, some solutions can be pricey. But the true blame is on corporate corruption; that we should have to spend precious time/energy UN DOING the damage caused by profiteering monsters. And for way too many, smart meters and their mega biological assaults were NOT an issue a few years ago. Lizzie From: maureenan2@... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:10:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Flying American Airlines I quite agree with you and see how posts that could help people are literally buried under 'chit chat'. It never used to be a few years ago. People come here often disabled and suffering from the effects of the technology that is killing them and because of it of course many are unable to work and don't have money for expensive things that may not work. It's a good point you made. Maureen UK > > > From: Marc <marc@...> > Subject: Re: Flying American Airlines > > Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 1:29 PM > > > > > > > > The back of the plane is the least safe part of the plane according to crash data statistics. > > Really? I thought that most of the survivors of plane crashes were in the back of the plane. > But of course, this is off-topic... :-) > > I only choose the back of the plane because there is no chance that there will be someone > behind me with nasty electronics. Depending on the airplane seating configuration, there > may be other good places to sit that keeps you away from the electronics that people > bring with them. > > Marc > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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