Dissipating karma

[Guest guest]

I had the opportunity to attend a seminar last weekend with a Chinese

soul healer named Master Zhi Gang Sha here in Hawaii. I went to two of

the 4 days for beginners. I could feel the energy of this man and his

chants that were supposed to " heal the soul and let everything else

heal itself. "

By the end of the 2nd full day, Master Sha was claiming that he could

clear people's karmas for them thereby saving the individual " hundreds

of lifetimes of work " getting rid of their karmas. Of course, this

came with a price. $1500 for your individual karma, $3000 for each

parent/ancestor side of the family if you felt that you were paying

for some of their sins. Master Sha gave examples of people he met who

were afflicted with handicaps due to what their ancestors had done. He

also had a wonderful offer to " download a saint " into your body for

those who were ready and committed to serving humanity. After he got

people to stand up, his students handed out forms for those who wanted

the download at a cost of $5000 each. My bank account told me I was

not THAT ready to have a saint downloaded into my consciousness.

This brought up a discussion with my wife about the " dissipate karma "

button in the NLP panel. Does anyone know how much it dissipates and

if that sounds like clearing or erasing karma? I personally don't feel

that anyone can come and erase your karma; especially if it comes at a

cost of $7500 for personal and ancestors. You might be forgiven by

someone you have karma with if they are ready to move on or have

achieved unconditional love and forgiveness, but clearing karma for a

price seems very sketchy.

If anyone else has attended a conference given by Master Sha, I

certainly would like their impressions of what happened.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

hi,, i have heard that meditation clears karma... supposedly ,they have connected to universal good and karma can be cleared.. if someone else can clear your karma is very questionable .. can this machine or energy munipulation clear energy.. very good question.. ruthanne

From: <peterwu99@...>Subject: Dissipating karmaqxci-scio-epfx-english Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 10:10 AM

I had the opportunity to attend a seminar last weekend with a Chinesesoul healer named Master Zhi Gang Sha here in Hawaii. I went to two ofthe 4 days for beginners. I could feel the energy of this man and hischants that were supposed to "heal the soul and let everything elseheal itself." By the end of the 2nd full day, Master Sha was claiming that he couldclear people's karmas for them thereby saving the individual "hundredsof lifetimes of work" getting rid of their karmas. Of course, thiscame with a price. $1500 for your individual karma, $3000 for eachparent/ancestor side of the family if you felt that you were payingfor some of their sins. Master Sha gave examples of people he met whowere afflicted with handicaps due to what their ancestors had done. Healso had a wonderful offer to "download a saint" into your body forthose who were ready and committed to serving humanity. After he

gotpeople to stand up, his students handed out forms for those who wantedthe download at a cost of $5000 each. My bank account told me I wasnot THAT ready to have a saint downloaded into my consciousness.This brought up a discussion with my wife about the "dissipate karma"button in the NLP panel. Does anyone know how much it dissipates andif that sounds like clearing or erasing karma? I personally don't feelthat anyone can come and erase your karma; especially if it comes at acost of $7500 for personal and ancestors. You might be forgiven bysomeone you have karma with if they are ready to move on or haveachieved unconditional love and forgiveness, but clearing karma for aprice seems very sketchy. If anyone else has attended a conference given by Master Sha, Icertainly would like their impressions of what happened. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Yes that sounds like too much money –

but ofcourse, we all do have to charge

For our sessions and our time.. and I don’t

know what all was entailed with

his program, etc..? Like was this an

ongoing program or something, for 5K? I don’t

know, otherwise yes, sounds like too much.…

I was trained at the southern California psychic

institute and learned about karma clearing

there also, as I am sure there are many

techniques that exist to help you clear karma…

But if you have an epfx, its as good as

any - I would just work with it and work these karma programs –

Because yes they surely DO work and CAN

help clear your karma – I use them all the time, but you have

to work with it and work through Layers to

get through it sometimes, etc… as you can only

release so much energy in one sitting, etc…

thanks,

Maggie

From: qxci-scio-epfx-english [mailto:qxci-scio-epfx-english ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008

10:10 AM

qxci-scio-epfx-english

Subject:

Dissipating karma

I had the opportunity to attend a seminar last weekend

with a Chinese

soul healer named Master Zhi Gang Sha here in Hawaii. I went to two of

the 4 days for beginners. I could feel the energy of this man and his

chants that were supposed to " heal the soul and let everything else

heal itself. "

By the end of the 2nd full day, Master Sha was claiming that he could

clear people's karmas for them thereby saving the individual " hundreds

of lifetimes of work " getting rid of their karmas. Of course, this

came with a price. $1500 for your individual karma, $3000 for each

parent/ancestor side of the family if you felt that you were paying

for some of their sins. Master Sha gave examples of people he met who

were afflicted with handicaps due to what their ancestors had done. He

also had a wonderful offer to " download a saint " into your body for

those who were ready and committed to serving humanity. After he got

people to stand up, his students handed out forms for those who wanted

the download at a cost of $5000 each. My bank account told me I was

not THAT ready to have a saint downloaded into my consciousness.

This brought up a discussion with my wife about the " dissipate karma "

button in the NLP panel. Does anyone know how much it dissipates and

if that sounds like clearing or erasing karma? I personally don't feel

that anyone can come and erase your karma; especially if it comes at a

cost of $7500 for personal and ancestors. You might be forgiven by

someone you have karma with if they are ready to move on or have

achieved unconditional love and forgiveness, but clearing karma for a

price seems very sketchy.

If anyone else has attended a conference given by Master Sha, I

certainly would like their impressions of what happened.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

A medium told me that our karma debt is paid in the 49th year and that we should have no backlash from then on in our lives. Bye Sue

Dissipating karmaqxci-scio-epfx-english Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 10:10 AM

I had the opportunity to attend a seminar last weekend with a Chinesesoul healer named Master Zhi Gang Sha here in Hawaii. I went to two ofthe 4 days for beginners. I could feel the energy of this man and hischants that were supposed to "heal the soul and let everything elseheal itself." By the end of the 2nd full day, Master Sha was claiming that he couldclear people's karmas for them thereby saving the individual "hundredsof lifetimes of work" getting rid of their karmas. Of course, thiscame with a price. $1500 for your individual karma, $3000 for eachparent/ancestor side of the family if you felt that you were payingfor some of their sins. Master Sha gave examples of people he met whowere afflicted with handicaps due to what their ancestors had done. Healso had a wonderful offer to "download a saint" into your body forthose who were ready and committed to serving humanity. After he gotpeople to stand up, his students handed out forms for those who wantedthe download at a cost of $5000 each. My bank account told me I wasnot THAT ready to have a saint downloaded into my consciousness.This brought up a discussion with my wife about the "dissipate karma"button in the NLP panel. Does anyone know how much it dissipates andif that sounds like clearing or erasing karma? I personally don't feelthat anyone can come and erase your karma; especially if it comes at acost of $7500 for personal and ancestors. You might be forgiven bysomeone you have karma with if they are ready to move on or haveachieved unconditional love and forgiveness, but clearing karma for aprice seems very sketchy. If anyone else has attended a conference given by Master Sha, Icertainly would like their impressions of what happened. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Yes meditation can help clear your karma –

this is how I initially learned,

you can learn mediation tools to do this…

It is something that takes

some inner work, where meditation can

enable you to recognize it and let it

go, etc.. So it can be hard, where a

healer could assist you, looking in from the outside –

 but ultimately its up to you to do the

work, and also involves what you are subconsciously

ready for, at that time, etc...  A healer

is just a facilitator for the work… a tool, like the epfx…

just as we are also facilitators using epfx

devices… But actually, the people heal

themselves, we are just faclitatiors and

tools to assist moving the energy, as

this healer….

For me, it was like learning to do addition

and subtraction, in math – but when I

Obtained my EPFX, it was like getting a

calculator…

And that makes our work much easier!  I

mean, why sit there and struggle with long division

Square roots when you can use a

calculator?

But its good to have those mediation tools

anyhow though – because what if your calculator

breaks down, and your computer breaks

down, etc? J

Thanks,

Maggie J  

From: qxci-scio-epfx-english [mailto:qxci-scio-epfx-english ] On Behalf Of ruthanne lemontree

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008

8:14 AM

qxci-scio-epfx-english

Subject: Re:

Dissipating karma

hi,, i have heard that meditation clears karma...

supposedly ,they have connected to universal good and karma can be cleared..

if someone else can clear your karma is very questionable .. can

this machine or energy munipulation clear energy.. very good question..

ruthanne

From:

<peterwu99 >

Subject: Dissipating karma

qxci-scio-epfx-english

Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 10:10 AM

I had the opportunity

to attend a seminar last weekend with a Chinese

soul healer named Master Zhi Gang Sha here in Hawaii. I went to two of

the 4 days for beginners. I could feel the energy of this man and his

chants that were supposed to " heal the soul and let everything else

heal itself. "

By the end of the 2nd full day, Master Sha was claiming that he could

clear people's karmas for them thereby saving the individual " hundreds

of lifetimes of work " getting rid of their karmas. Of course, this

came with a price. $1500 for your individual karma, $3000 for each

parent/ancestor side of the family if you felt that you were paying

for some of their sins. Master Sha gave examples of people he met who

were afflicted with handicaps due to what their ancestors had done. He

also had a wonderful offer to " download a saint " into your body for

those who were ready and committed to serving humanity. After he got

people to stand up, his students handed out forms for those who wanted

the download at a cost of $5000 each. My bank account told me I was

not THAT ready to have a saint downloaded into my consciousness.

This brought up a discussion with my wife about the " dissipate

karma "

button in the NLP panel. Does anyone know how much it dissipates and

if that sounds like clearing or erasing karma? I personally don't feel

that anyone can come and erase your karma; especially if it comes at a

cost of $7500 for personal and ancestors. You might be forgiven by

someone you have karma with if they are ready to move on or have

achieved unconditional love and forgiveness, but clearing karma for a

price seems very sketchy.

If anyone else has attended a conference given by Master Sha, I

certainly would like their impressions of what happened.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Karma has been built up over many lifetimes and has to be worked off by the individual. Be careful what medium's tell us. Why do so many people have problems after the age of 49?

Phil

-----Original Message-----From: qxci-scio-epfx-english [mailto:qxci-scio-epfx-english ]On Behalf Of Angel HealthSent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:41 AMqxci-scio-epfx-english Subject: Re: Dissipating karma

A medium told me that our karma debt is paid in the 49th year and that we should have no backlash from then on in our lives. Bye Sue

Dissipating karmaqxci-scio-epfx-english Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 10:10 AM

I had the opportunity to attend a seminar last weekend with a Chinesesoul healer named Master Zhi Gang Sha here in Hawaii. I went to two ofthe 4 days for beginners. I could feel the energy of this man and hischants that were supposed to "heal the soul and let everything elseheal itself." By the end of the 2nd full day, Master Sha was claiming that he couldclear people's karmas for them thereby saving the individual "hundredsof lifetimes of work" getting rid of their karmas. Of course, thiscame with a price. $1500 for your individual karma, $3000 for eachparent/ancestor side of the family if you felt that you were payingfor some of their sins. Master Sha gave examples of people he met whowere afflicted with handicaps due to what their ancestors had done. Healso had a wonderful offer to "download a saint" into your body forthose who were ready and committed to serving humanity. After he gotpeople to stand up, his students handed out forms for those who wantedthe download at a cost of $5000 each. My bank account told me I wasnot THAT ready to have a saint downloaded into my consciousness.This brought up a discussion with my wife about the "dissipate karma"button in the NLP panel. Does anyone know how much it dissipates andif that sounds like clearing or erasing karma? I personally don't feelthat anyone can come and erase your karma; especially if it comes at acost of $7500 for personal and ancestors. You might be forgiven bysomeone you have karma with if they are ready to move on or haveachieved unconditional love and forgiveness, but clearing karma for aprice seems very sketchy. If anyone else has attended a conference given by Master Sha, Icertainly would like their impressions of what happened. Thanks,