Re: Looking for info...

[Guest guest]

I also have more on hard drive. I'll send it.

Kel

ABORTED FETAL TISSUE USEAGE IN VACCINES

Please check back for our complete documented page on the use of aborted

fetal tissue usage in vaccine production. These were not spontaneously

aborted babies. They were deliberate abortions, specifically for the fetal

tissue used for vaccines, namely rubella, chicken pox, and Canadian inactive

polio.

PROVE

Conscientious Choice and Informed Consent for Vaccination are Parental Rights

http://home.swbell.net/prove/issues/vaccines_a_closer_look.htm

Vaccines Made From Aborted Babies By , I don't endorse her

site but she gives some good references.

http://www.dgwsoft.co.uk/homepages/vaccines/index.htm

langevin wrote:

> From: langevin <sclangevin@...>

>

> ... on aborted fetuses used in vaccinations. This came around a couple

> weeks ago, but I can't seem to remember where I saved it.

>

> BTW, I'm a lurker. I'm Connie, and my son is 10 months and hasn't had

> any vaccs. And won't any time soon, as far as I'm concerned!

>

> Thanks for your help,

> Connie

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

I also have more on hard drive. I'll send it.

Kel

ABORTED FETAL TISSUE USEAGE IN VACCINES

Please check back for our complete documented page on the use of aborted

fetal tissue usage in vaccine production. These were not spontaneously

aborted babies. They were deliberate abortions, specifically for the fetal

tissue used for vaccines, namely rubella, chicken pox, and Canadian inactive

polio.

PROVE

Conscientious Choice and Informed Consent for Vaccination are Parental Rights

http://home.swbell.net/prove/issues/vaccines_a_closer_look.htm

Vaccines Made From Aborted Babies By , I don't endorse her

site but she gives some good references.

http://www.dgwsoft.co.uk/homepages/vaccines/index.htm

langevin wrote:

> From: langevin <sclangevin@...>

>

> ... on aborted fetuses used in vaccinations. This came around a couple

> weeks ago, but I can't seem to remember where I saved it.

>

> BTW, I'm a lurker. I'm Connie, and my son is 10 months and hasn't had

> any vaccs. And won't any time soon, as far as I'm concerned!

>

> Thanks for your help,

> Connie

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Dianna,

You're lucky to not react to computers. IT must be an awful feeling to get sick

from an MRI.  I might be there with you.

 I  have said no to MRI " s b/c of ES. I get a rash & itching from cell phones &

worse from towers if I get too close.

Can you tolerate an ultra-sound or CT if was an emergency?

Kathy

From: Dianna <diannaamick@...>

Subject: Looking for info...

 

I do not have any problems with cell phones,computers,ect. I sympathize

with those who do.

I have been diagnosed as having electrical hypersensitivity by three doctors. I

have had allergic reactions to MRI's twice and to an EMG. I developed a rash,

itching, nausea, ectand the tests have to be stopped.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, ,

While I've been electrically sensitive, I've only had X-rays and CT scans. And

the

only adverse effects I've had was some nausea following multiple (many) X-rays.

As for a cause & effect, I'd say that heavy metal poisoning is a common cause

for ES. And I think having metal inside your body is contradicted for MRI's

(metal plates, screws). So that would make some sense that an MRI would

cause a bad reaction if one had some kind of metal imbalance in their body.

Or maybe you *do* have metal in your body? what kind of dental work

have you had done?

So do I understand you correctly that MEDICAL DOCTORS diagnosed you

as electrically sensitive? That seems a bit unusual -- I thought most MD's

thought that there was no such thing as " ES " .

Marc

> I would love to hear from anyone who has had similar experiences or anyone who

> knows of current research in this area.

[Guest guest]

>

> Welcome to the group, ,

>

> While I've been electrically sensitive, I've only had X-rays and CT scans.

And the

> only adverse effects I've had was some nausea following multiple (many)

X-rays.

>

> As for a cause & effect, I'd say that heavy metal poisoning is a common cause

> for ES. And I think having metal inside your body is contradicted for MRI's

> (metal plates, screws). So that would make some sense that an MRI would

> cause a bad reaction if one had some kind of metal imbalance in their body.

> Or maybe you *do* have metal in your body? what kind of dental work

> have you had done?

>

> So do I understand you correctly that MEDICAL DOCTORS diagnosed you

> as electrically sensitive? That seems a bit unusual -- I thought most MD's

> thought that there was no such thing as " ES " .

>

> Marc

>

> > I would love to hear from anyone who has had similar experiences or anyone

who

> > knows of current research in this area.

I have had numerous blood tests, including those to measure iron, electrolytes,

ect. I have several amalgam fillings in back teeth that I have had since

childhood. I also have no metal (other then the dental fillings)in my body.

After the first MRI reaction I was taken to the ER by the MRI Tech. The ER

doctor diagnosed an allergic reaction to the magnetic field.

At the EMG testing the procedure was stopped by the doctor due to what she

called " an allergic response to the electrical current " . I also see an

allergist who has diagnosed Hypersensitivity syndrome including electrical

current. She has been looking for medical research information about Electrical

sensitivity. But, as you know it is almost nonexistant. She is also presenting

my case at case conference this fall, in hope that another allergist has come

across the same thing in their practice.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Dianna,

About three years ago I had an MRI scan and a CT scan within a couple of days. I

had no noticeable reaction at all. I don't know about research relating to MRI

scans and allergic reactions, but the paper I've linked below by a Swedish

researcher looked at skin reactions in electrosensitive people and found the

cause was essentially an overaction of immune cells called mast cells, which

release chemicals such as histamine in an immune response. It is essentially an

inflammation reaction, and can cause rash, itching, etc. It is possible your

reaction could be one of inflammation.

When I first became electrosensitive I became nauseous now and again in strong

wifi areas. Histamine is known to play a role in nausea; it may be a potential

cause of your situation.

Here's the paper I mentioned above:

http://www.weepinitiative.org/LINKEDDOCS/health/PATPHY_621%20Olle%20Johansson.pd\

f

.

>

> I do not have any problems with cell phones,computers,ect. I sympathize with

those who do.

> I have been diagnosed as having electrical hypersensitivity by three doctors.

I have had allergic reactions to MRI's twice and to an EMG. I developed a rash,

itching, nausea, ectand the tests have to be stopped. This is complicating my

life greatly because I was in a car accident and need treatment for injuries and

am unable to complete the needed diagnostic testing.

> I would love to hear from anyone who has had similar experiences or anyone who

knows of current research in this area.

>

[Guest guest]

Marc:

Which natural support do you know for adrenals and thyroid

(am hypo) without using thyroxine, Armour etc..

Tried eating Dulce sea weed, on/off, react to this this, but not to kelp

tablets!!!

I also read that by tapping the thyroid gently, and eating lots of black

and red radishes (juicing, first thing in the morns), releases some compounds

which balances thyroid hormones.

Can't tolerate liquorice for adrenals.

Any other suggestions much appreciated.

K

>

> > I have had numerous blood tests, including those to measure iron,

electrolytes, ect.

>

> Blood tests aren't really relevant. The metals you are looking for are within

your brain,

> your thyroid gland, your adrenal glands, your liver, and/or your kidneys. And

> it's not going to show up any blood or urine test.

>

> Alternative doctors sometimes use hair tests or other tests which can

indirectly

> test for heavy metal toxicities.

>

> Usually the metals that are the culprits are mercury, cadmium, lead, aluminum,

copper.

>

> Although heavy metal detox can take years (MANY years), so that's not a good

> suggestion for immediate help. Many people get some quick improvement by

directly

> supporting their adrenal or thyroid glands. There are mainstream and

alternative

> support for these glands. Note that if your doctor runs the standard tests on

> these glands, they may not show up as being bad off. However, it's pretty

> easy to see how you reaction to non-prescription adrenal and thyroid support

> and see for yourself.

>

> (especially if you just had an accident, you should be getting some adrenal

> support -- something like IsoCort can be purchased on Amazon.com)

>

> Marc

>

> I have several amalgam fillings in back teeth that I have had since

childhood. I also have no metal (other then the dental fillings)in my body.

> > After the first MRI reaction I was taken to the ER by the MRI Tech. The ER

doctor diagnosed an allergic reaction to the magnetic field.

> > At the EMG testing the procedure was stopped by the doctor due to what she

called " an allergic response to the electrical current " . I also see an

allergist who has diagnosed Hypersensitivity syndrome including electrical

current. She has been looking for medical research information about Electrical

sensitivity. But, as you know it is almost nonexistant. She is also presenting

my case at case conference this fall, in hope that another allergist has come

across the same thing in their practice.

>