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Hi Esther,

I would see if you can create a safe haven for yourself in your bedroom by

putting Swiss Shield Naturelle material on your bedroom walls (and maybe even

the ceiling if someone is above you??) Here's the link:

http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/RF/products_rf_fabric_Naturell.htm

It doesn't have to be grounded and shields 99-99.9% of EMFs. I have some tacked

up on my wall to shield me from my neighbor's DECT phone and it works very well.

I would bet the surges you are feeling is some kind of data download from the

neighbor's smart meter. You don't say what floor you're on but if you have

someone beneath you I'm not sure this would work (unless you shield the floor

too). You wouldn't want to trap EMF from your downstairs neighbor in your room,

which is what would happen if you had all the walls shielded but there was EMF

coming through the floor.

If you are on the ground floor I think shielding all four walls of your room

would work well. If someone is above you you'd have to do the ceiling too. You

could try shielding paint but ethically I have a problem using it because if you

were ever to move what happens if the new tenant sets up WiFi in that room?

They'd be cooking themselves. The material is also good because it is

portable--you can take it with you if you move, travel, etc. I just tack it up

with thumbtacks. Good luck!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've just joined the group, and am hoping you might have some answers to my

questions about EMS.

>

> Background: I'm 64 and have been disabled with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

(silly name for a devastating condition) and MCS for the past 21 years. I know

I'm also reactive to EMF's/RF's and have become increasingly so as each year

more and more cell towers, wifi, etc. is polluting my environment. I've felt it

increase. I'm very sensitive to energies, and no longer feel " clear " of

intrusion from the assault, even in the wee hours of the night. I'm a night owl

and the time I used to feel best physically/emotionally was between 3-6 a.m. No

more.

>

> In December, my neighbor got a smart meter, and I now have constant buzzing in

my head (I think ringing in the ears doesn't really describe it.) But there's

another problem that has been happening for quite a while now that I'm finally

piecing together and have great concern and questions about.

>

> If I go to bed around 5-6 a.m. and am falling asleep, but am not into a deep

sleep, I'll suddenly experience a jolt that wakes me up. My heart starts

racing, my muscles start twitching/jerking, my skin itches, and my nerves feel

like they are being agitated.

>

> I used to think that maybe this was caused by orthostatic intolerance, and

that my autonomic nervous system was going wild because I'd been in a prone

position for a while. Then I started to notice that it seemed to happen around

5-6 a.m.; but not if I went to bed earlier. Yesterday, it happened again and

was severe. It felt as if someone had plugged me into an electrical outlet, and

that electricity was racing through my body. It continued for about 5-10

minutes, and then I felt the " charge " stop. I FELT it stop assaulting me. My

body's reaction started winding down--heart started get back to normal rate,

limbs started to relax, etc. I felt as if I'd been " zapped " and was drained,

and yet " charged up " (and not in a good way).

>

> It became crystal clear to me that SOMETHING electrical gets turned on about

that time in the morning that is affecting me, rather than it being a symptom of

CFIDS.

>

> The time this seems to happen is when my neighbors, whose house is about 10

feet from my bedroom wall, are up and leaving for work. I'm pretty sure they

have wifi, but that seems to be on most of the time. However, they got a

satellite dish (TV) about three years ago. I don't know how that system works,

but I'm wondering if it's downloading data at that time in the morning and if

that could be the reason for this sudden electrical surge that impacts me so

intensely. I've had the racing heart beat, limb jerking thing before, but now

it's becoming extreme. The only other thing I can think of is that they have a

car that they warm up that makes a lot of rumbling but it doesn't seem like that

would produce such in intense, directed blast of electricity into my bedroom.

>

> It's obvious to me that SOMETHING gets turned on that has a strong electrical

surge that lasts about 5-10 minutes. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas what

it could be?

>

> I live in the S.F. Bay Area, which has plenty of electrosmog. There are two

cell towers, with a third one to be built, in a church about three blocks from

me. There's a Starbucks with wifi about six blocks away which they've told me

is always on. The houses in the immediate area don't yet have smart meters, nor

do I (and I'm fighting like a mad woman to keep it that way); my neighbor on the

other side of my house (not the bedroom side) got hers ahead of the installation

schedule for our area because she rewired her house.

>

> Oh, and the house I live in has knob and tube wiring, which I understand isn't

grounded and makes things even worse. (I'm a renter so I can't do anything

about that.)

>

> So if you have any thoughts or ideas about what might be happening, I'd

greatly appreciate it.

>

> Esther

>

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There have been rumors that they test cell antennas

early in the morning. I used to feel a similar thing

at about 3-4 am when I lived in a condo. It may also

be you neighbor turning on their TV, though that would

hurt the whole time it is on, not just the first few

minutes.

Eli

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've just joined the group, and am hoping you might have some answers to my

questions about EMS.

>

> Background: I'm 64 and have been disabled with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

(silly name for a devastating condition) and MCS for the past 21 years. I know

I'm also reactive to EMF's/RF's and have become increasingly so as each year

more and more cell towers, wifi, etc. is polluting my environment. I've felt it

increase. I'm very sensitive to energies, and no longer feel " clear " of

intrusion from the assault, even in the wee hours of the night. I'm a night owl

and the time I used to feel best physically/emotionally was between 3-6 a.m. No

more.

>

> In December, my neighbor got a smart meter, and I now have constant buzzing in

my head (I think ringing in the ears doesn't really describe it.) But there's

another problem that has been happening for quite a while now that I'm finally

piecing together and have great concern and questions about.

>

> If I go to bed around 5-6 a.m. and am falling asleep, but am not into a deep

sleep, I'll suddenly experience a jolt that wakes me up. My heart starts

racing, my muscles start twitching/jerking, my skin itches, and my nerves feel

like they are being agitated.

>

> I used to think that maybe this was caused by orthostatic intolerance, and

that my autonomic nervous system was going wild because I'd been in a prone

position for a while. Then I started to notice that it seemed to happen around

5-6 a.m.; but not if I went to bed earlier. Yesterday, it happened again and

was severe. It felt as if someone had plugged me into an electrical outlet, and

that electricity was racing through my body. It continued for about 5-10

minutes, and then I felt the " charge " stop. I FELT it stop assaulting me. My

body's reaction started winding down--heart started get back to normal rate,

limbs started to relax, etc. I felt as if I'd been " zapped " and was drained,

and yet " charged up " (and not in a good way).

>

> It became crystal clear to me that SOMETHING electrical gets turned on about

that time in the morning that is affecting me, rather than it being a symptom of

CFIDS.

>

> The time this seems to happen is when my neighbors, whose house is about 10

feet from my bedroom wall, are up and leaving for work. I'm pretty sure they

have wifi, but that seems to be on most of the time. However, they got a

satellite dish (TV) about three years ago. I don't know how that system works,

but I'm wondering if it's downloading data at that time in the morning and if

that could be the reason for this sudden electrical surge that impacts me so

intensely. I've had the racing heart beat, limb jerking thing before, but now

it's becoming extreme. The only other thing I can think of is that they have a

car that they warm up that makes a lot of rumbling but it doesn't seem like that

would produce such in intense, directed blast of electricity into my bedroom.

>

> It's obvious to me that SOMETHING gets turned on that has a strong electrical

surge that lasts about 5-10 minutes. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas what

it could be?

>

> I live in the S.F. Bay Area, which has plenty of electrosmog. There are two

cell towers, with a third one to be built, in a church about three blocks from

me. There's a Starbucks with wifi about six blocks away which they've told me

is always on. The houses in the immediate area don't yet have smart meters, nor

do I (and I'm fighting like a mad woman to keep it that way); my neighbor on the

other side of my house (not the bedroom side) got hers ahead of the installation

schedule for our area because she rewired her house.

>

> Oh, and the house I live in has knob and tube wiring, which I understand isn't

grounded and makes things even worse. (I'm a renter so I can't do anything

about that.)

>

> So if you have any thoughts or ideas about what might be happening, I'd

greatly appreciate it.

>

> Esther

>

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Who knows, it could be their coffee maker. I've figured out that

my old refrigerator has a relay start, so when it first turns on

there is a spike of current through the relay, then a spike when

the relay closes, until the motor actually starts turning.

Could also be a hair dryer? 10 feet is pretty close.

If their electric panel is nearby then it and the ground rod could be a

factor.

I have this idea that everyone should put a lightning arrestor between

their ground rod and their panel. That way you still get protection if

there's a lightning strike, but there's no leakage the rest of the time.

I have not tried it yet. I think you need the 4 wire single phase kind.

Delta

http://www.deltala.com/pricing01.htm#LA302R

sells them. They also have 3 wire capacitors you could use

instead of 2 Stetzer filters (when installing that, cut the leads as short

as possible).

If anyone feels like trying it let know how it goes. Then try to get your

neighbors to do it too. Ideally connections to water pipes etc should also

be connected to the 4th wire of the arrestor, with the ground rod. If you

have all shielded electric wires (metal conduit everywhere) then an isolated

grounding system might have more benefit than this approach.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:37 AM, jaime_schunkewitz <

jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:

>

>

> There have been rumors that they test cell antennas

> early in the morning. I used to feel a similar thing

> at about 3-4 am when I lived in a condo. It may also

> be you neighbor turning on their TV, though that would

> hurt the whole time it is on, not just the first few

> minutes.

> Eli

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I've just joined the group, and am hoping you might have some answers to

> my questions about EMS.

> >

> > Background: I'm 64 and have been disabled with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

> (silly name for a devastating condition) and MCS for the past 21 years. I

> know I'm also reactive to EMF's/RF's and have become increasingly so as each

> year more and more cell towers, wifi, etc. is polluting my environment. I've

> felt it increase. I'm very sensitive to energies, and no longer feel " clear "

> of intrusion from the assault, even in the wee hours of the night. I'm a

> night owl and the time I used to feel best physically/emotionally was

> between 3-6 a.m. No more.

> >

> > In December, my neighbor got a smart meter, and I now have constant

> buzzing in my head (I think ringing in the ears doesn't really describe it.)

> But there's another problem that has been happening for quite a while now

> that I'm finally piecing together and have great concern and questions

> about.

> >

> > If I go to bed around 5-6 a.m. and am falling asleep, but am not into a

> deep sleep, I'll suddenly experience a jolt that wakes me up. My heart

> starts racing, my muscles start twitching/jerking, my skin itches, and my

> nerves feel like they are being agitated.

> >

> > I used to think that maybe this was caused by orthostatic intolerance,

> and that my autonomic nervous system was going wild because I'd been in a

> prone position for a while. Then I started to notice that it seemed to

> happen around 5-6 a.m.; but not if I went to bed earlier. Yesterday, it

> happened again and was severe. It felt as if someone had plugged me into an

> electrical outlet, and that electricity was racing through my body. It

> continued for about 5-10 minutes, and then I felt the " charge " stop. I FELT

> it stop assaulting me. My body's reaction started winding down--heart

> started get back to normal rate, limbs started to relax, etc. I felt as if

> I'd been " zapped " and was drained, and yet " charged up " (and not in a good

> way).

> >

> > It became crystal clear to me that SOMETHING electrical gets turned on

> about that time in the morning that is affecting me, rather than it being a

> symptom of CFIDS.

> >

> > The time this seems to happen is when my neighbors, whose house is about

> 10 feet from my bedroom wall, are up and leaving for work. I'm pretty sure

> they have wifi, but that seems to be on most of the time. However, they got

> a satellite dish (TV) about three years ago. I don't know how that system

> works, but I'm wondering if it's downloading data at that time in the

> morning and if that could be the reason for this sudden electrical surge

> that impacts me so intensely. I've had the racing heart beat, limb jerking

> thing before, but now it's becoming extreme. The only other thing I can

> think of is that they have a car that they warm up that makes a lot of

> rumbling but it doesn't seem like that would produce such in intense,

> directed blast of electricity into my bedroom.

> >

> > It's obvious to me that SOMETHING gets turned on that has a strong

> electrical surge that lasts about 5-10 minutes. I'm wondering if anyone has

> any ideas what it could be?

> >

> > I live in the S.F. Bay Area, which has plenty of electrosmog. There are

> two cell towers, with a third one to be built, in a church about three

> blocks from me. There's a Starbucks with wifi about six blocks away which

> they've told me is always on. The houses in the immediate area don't yet

> have smart meters, nor do I (and I'm fighting like a mad woman to keep it

> that way); my neighbor on the other side of my house (not the bedroom side)

> got hers ahead of the installation schedule for our area because she rewired

> her house.

> >

> > Oh, and the house I live in has knob and tube wiring, which I understand

> isn't grounded and makes things even worse. (I'm a renter so I can't do

> anything about that.)

> >

> > So if you have any thoughts or ideas about what might be happening, I'd

> greatly appreciate it.

> >

> > Esther

> >

>

>

>

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I would guess it's the Smart Meter, if it's been happening only within the time

since your neighbor got one. Smart Meters totally ruined my life a few weeks

ago; I had a stroke-like episode & am still waiting for any sign of recovery. I,

too, had the constant buzzing in my head, among other things. The meters are

NOTORIOUS for sleep disruption. When I was in an area where the neighbors had

them, I didn't get a wink of sleep for 4 days straight. It was like there was

something forcing my brain & body to just stay awake all the time, which is

weird b/c I have chronic Lyme, CFIDS (ME), Fibro etc; I'm sure you're familiar

w/ how exhausting these conditions are. If, when you say " quite a while " you

mean since the neigbor got a Smart Meter, considering your symptoms, I'd

seriously consider moving to an area where the houses are at least farther

apart, & where the wiring is grounded. 

-E. Drew

From: Esther <gomma@...>

Subject: What Could Be Causing This Reaction?

Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 7:32 AM

 

Hi Everyone,

I've just joined the group, and am hoping you might have some answers to my

questions about EMS.

Background: I'm 64 and have been disabled with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (silly

name for a devastating condition) and MCS for the past 21 years. I know I'm

also reactive to EMF's/RF's and have become increasingly so as each year more

and more cell towers, wifi, etc. is polluting my environment. I've felt it

increase. I'm very sensitive to energies, and no longer feel " clear " of

intrusion from the assault, even in the wee hours of the night. I'm a night owl

and the time I used to feel best physically/emotionally was between 3-6 a.m. No

more.

In December, my neighbor got a smart meter, and I now have constant buzzing in

my head (I think ringing in the ears doesn't really describe it.) But there's

another problem that has been happening for quite a while now that I'm finally

piecing together and have great concern and questions about.

If I go to bed around 5-6 a.m. and am falling asleep, but am not into a deep

sleep, I'll suddenly experience a jolt that wakes me up. My heart starts

racing, my muscles start twitching/jerking, my skin itches, and my nerves feel

like they are being agitated.

I used to think that maybe this was caused by orthostatic intolerance, and that

my autonomic nervous system was going wild because I'd been in a prone position

for a while. Then I started to notice that it seemed to happen around 5-6 a.m.;

but not if I went to bed earlier. Yesterday, it happened again and was severe.

It felt as if someone had plugged me into an electrical outlet, and that

electricity was racing through my body. It continued for about 5-10 minutes,

and then I felt the " charge " stop. I FELT it stop assaulting me. My body's

reaction started winding down--heart started get back to normal rate, limbs

started to relax, etc. I felt as if I'd been " zapped " and was drained, and yet

" charged up " (and not in a good way).

It became crystal clear to me that SOMETHING electrical gets turned on about

that time in the morning that is affecting me, rather than it being a symptom of

CFIDS.

The time this seems to happen is when my neighbors, whose house is about 10 feet

from my bedroom wall, are up and leaving for work. I'm pretty sure they have

wifi, but that seems to be on most of the time. However, they got a satellite

dish (TV) about three years ago. I don't know how that system works, but I'm

wondering if it's downloading data at that time in the morning and if that could

be the reason for this sudden electrical surge that impacts me so intensely.

I've had the racing heart beat, limb jerking thing before, but now it's becoming

extreme. The only other thing I can think of is that they have a car that they

warm up that makes a lot of rumbling but it doesn't seem like that would produce

such in intense, directed blast of electricity into my bedroom.

It's obvious to me that SOMETHING gets turned on that has a strong electrical

surge that lasts about 5-10 minutes. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas what

it could be?

I live in the S.F. Bay Area, which has plenty of electrosmog. There are two

cell towers, with a third one to be built, in a church about three blocks from

me. There's a Starbucks with wifi about six blocks away which they've told me

is always on. The houses in the immediate area don't yet have smart meters, nor

do I (and I'm fighting like a mad woman to keep it that way); my neighbor on the

other side of my house (not the bedroom side) got hers ahead of the installation

schedule for our area because she rewired her house.

Oh, and the house I live in has knob and tube wiring, which I understand isn't

grounded and makes things even worse. (I'm a renter so I can't do anything

about that.)

So if you have any thoughts or ideas about what might be happening, I'd greatly

appreciate it.

Esther

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Yes I would agree. Its the smart meter. Was life threatening to me. I was moving

out until I could replace it with an analog meter & aloud me to stay in my

house. They are really dangerous devices. Loni

From: Esther <gomma@...>

Subject: What Could Be Causing This Reaction?

Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 7:32 AM

 

Hi Everyone,

I've just joined the group, and am hoping you might have some answers to my

questions about EMS.

Background: I'm 64 and have been disabled with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (silly

name for a devastating condition) and MCS for the past 21 years. I know I'm also

reactive to EMF's/RF's and have become increasingly so as each year more and

more cell towers, wifi, etc. is polluting my environment. I've felt it increase.

I'm very sensitive to energies, and no longer feel " clear " of intrusion from the

assault, even in the wee hours of the night. I'm a night owl and the time I used

to feel best physically/emotionally was between 3-6 a.m. No more.

In December, my neighbor got a smart meter, and I now have constant buzzing in

my head (I think ringing in the ears doesn't really describe it.) But there's

another problem that has been happening for quite a while now that I'm finally

piecing together and have great concern and questions about.

If I go to bed around 5-6 a.m. and am falling asleep, but am not into a deep

sleep, I'll suddenly experience a jolt that wakes me up. My heart starts racing,

my muscles start twitching/jerking, my skin itches, and my nerves feel like they

are being agitated.

I used to think that maybe this was caused by orthostatic intolerance, and that

my autonomic nervous system was going wild because I'd been in a prone position

for a while. Then I started to notice that it seemed to happen around 5-6 a.m.;

but not if I went to bed earlier. Yesterday, it happened again and was severe.

It felt as if someone had plugged me into an electrical outlet, and that

electricity was racing through my body. It continued for about 5-10 minutes, and

then I felt the " charge " stop. I FELT it stop assaulting me. My body's reaction

started winding down--heart started get back to normal rate, limbs started to

relax, etc. I felt as if I'd been " zapped " and was drained, and yet " charged up "

(and not in a good way).

It became crystal clear to me that SOMETHING electrical gets turned on about

that time in the morning that is affecting me, rather than it being a symptom of

CFIDS.

The time this seems to happen is when my neighbors, whose house is about 10 feet

from my bedroom wall, are up and leaving for work. I'm pretty sure they have

wifi, but that seems to be on most of the time. However, they got a satellite

dish (TV) about three years ago. I don't know how that system works, but I'm

wondering if it's downloading data at that time in the morning and if that could

be the reason for this sudden electrical surge that impacts me so intensely.

I've had the racing heart beat, limb jerking thing before, but now it's becoming

extreme. The only other thing I can think of is that they have a car that they

warm up that makes a lot of rumbling but it doesn't seem like that would produce

such in intense, directed blast of electricity into my bedroom.

It's obvious to me that SOMETHING gets turned on that has a strong electrical

surge that lasts about 5-10 minutes. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas what

it could be?

I live in the S.F. Bay Area, which has plenty of electrosmog. There are two cell

towers, with a third one to be built, in a church about three blocks from me.

There's a Starbucks with wifi about six blocks away which they've told me is

always on. The houses in the immediate area don't yet have smart meters, nor do

I (and I'm fighting like a mad woman to keep it that way); my neighbor on the

other side of my house (not the bedroom side) got hers ahead of the installation

schedule for our area because she rewired her house.

Oh, and the house I live in has knob and tube wiring, which I understand isn't

grounded and makes things even worse. (I'm a renter so I can't do anything about

that.)

So if you have any thoughts or ideas about what might be happening, I'd greatly

appreciate it.

Esther

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