Guest guest Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I'm in England too! Whereabouts are you Kev? I'm in Hampshire, opposite the Isle of Wight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Waffles??? you haven't lived until you've tasted the traditional London delicacy of Pie and Mash! For our cousins from over the pond I'd like to explain that the pie consists of minced offal (a lovely grey colour!) THE most delicious pie crust and a sauce made from eel juice, cornflour and parsley. This is then liberally sprinkled with white pepper and chili vinegar with a side serving of lumpy mashed potato (no butter or milk in the mash - it's just softened up with a bit of hot water from the kettle) Mmmmmmmmmm...heaven!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Hehe, sounds great. I have it 2 or 3 times a week, though I don't use quite so many sides to it. I usually just add salad, and maybe some tuna, and maybe some salad sauce, and a lil bit of pepper and other herbs... not very tasty when put together like that, but I like the taste, so that's all that matters. Also I like to use actual potatoes and mash them with a force, rather than the instant kind from the box. ;p Angel > Waffles??? > > you haven't lived until you've tasted the traditional London delicacy > of Pie and Mash! > > For our cousins from over the pond I'd like to explain that the pie > consists of minced offal (a lovely grey colour!) THE most delicious > pie crust and a sauce made from eel juice, cornflour and parsley. This > is then liberally sprinkled with white pepper and chili vinegar with a > side serving of lumpy mashed potato (no butter or milk in the mash - > it's just softened up with a bit of hot water from the kettle) > > Mmmmmmmmmm...heaven!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I got my travel insurance for thyroid, RA and Hypertension, no problem at all but it is with my bank account. Try one of the sites on the web for people with medical problems. Also try insure and go. Good luck, but don't travel without it, and don't not tell them because even if you have something other than thyroid or diabetes problems while you are away they won't cover you for it because you didn't tell them what's wrong with you. luv Dee > > Hi All > does anyone know how to get travel insurance for Europe (thyroid and > diabetes) - I'm having the devils own job so far! I've got my EHIC - would > this be enough if I just insure my luggage etc? Had no idea this was going > to be so difficult. > > Any advice? > thanks > Anne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Anne, I have not had any problems with travel insurance for thyroid and diabetes. In fact when I just had diabetes and thyroid and was below 65 there was no extra premium either. Lilian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hi I've never had a problem getting travel insurance being Hypo... There is a very comprehensive article on travel insurance www.moneysavingexpert.com, it includes the best options for people with health problems too. Very good site in general for all things money! Leah x thyroid treatment , " Lilian15-googlemail " <lilian.swallow@...> wrote: > > Anne, I have not had any problems with travel insurance for thyroid and diabetes. In fact when I just had diabetes and thyroid and was below 65 there was no extra premium either. > > Lilian > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hi Anne, I have had no problem with hypo- just needed to declare that I was stable and had no dose changed for 6 months- that was Lloyds bank. Subject: travel Hi All does anyone know how to get travel insurance for Europe (thyroid and diabetes) - I'm having the devils own job so far! I've got my EHIC - would this be enough if I just insure my luggage etc? Had no idea this was going to be so difficult. Any advice? thanks Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 - I take the security searches with good humor, try to get to the airport early so there's no time problem and don't hassle the security personnel. I understand (living in Israel, I understand all too well) that they're only doing their job and trying to make the trip a safe one. In the US, I saw a lot of people " standing on their Constitutional rights " during security checks, making their own lives miserable and delaying everyone else. I have no sympathy for them. Can't they understand that a few minutes of inconvenience is preferable to the plane blowing up in mid-air, slamming into a building or landing in some hostile country? THAT would really ruin my day! Regards, ( " Double Hippie " ) RTHE - 2003; LTHR - 2004 _____ From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Waspe Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:54 AM Joint Replacement Subject: Travel My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he knows I have multiple joints, but most of the Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said people have false passports they can have false documentation Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3232 - Release Date: 11/01/10 21:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 OK I guess, but do they have to act so shocked! surprised! flummoxed! when an old lady like me shows up with an artificial knee? Here in the US probably one out of any random ten people my age has an artificial joint, are these people just slow (!!) learners or do I attract to myself every one of them who’s only been on the job for three hours? News flash, and this is for YOU, Homeland Security, I was born in 1945, the Baby Boom started in 1946, and there are literally millions of old people bearing down on you with artificial hips or knees or something, so get used to it and stop with the astonished routine, OK? F TKR 1/15/09 on 11/2/10 1:53 AM, Waspe at mary.waspe@... wrote: > > > > > > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he knows > I have multiple joints, but most of the > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said > people have false passports they can have false documentation > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. > > > > >  > > > -- Re: Hip Replacement > > > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would just get > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although there > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that another > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! > > Lin > > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 funny.... in TX > > > > > > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he knows > I have multiple joints, but most of the > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said > people have false passports they can have false documentation > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. > > > > >  > > > -- Re: Hip Replacement > > > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would just get > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although there > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that another > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! > > Lin > > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I do agree, , but is right. I would rather be stripped searched that go down on a bombed plane. Hey, at my age, that same as yours, it could be fun!!! LOL Joan ________________________________ From: Foley <sefoley@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:32:58 PM Subject: Re: Travel OK I guess, but do they have to act so shocked! surprised! flummoxed! when an old lady like me shows up with an artificial knee? Here in the US probably one out of any random ten people my age has an artificial joint, are these people just slow (!!) learners or do I attract to myself every one of them who’s only been on the job for three hours? News flash, and this is for YOU, Homeland Security, I was born in 1945, the Baby Boom started in 1946, and there are literally millions of old people bearing down on you with artificial hips or knees or something, so get used to it and stop with the astonished routine, OK? F TKR 1/15/09 on 11/2/10 1:53 AM, Waspe at mary.waspe@... wrote: > > > > > > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he knows > I have multiple joints, but most of the > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said > people have false passports they can have false documentation > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. > > > > >  > > > -- Re: Hip Replacement > > > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would just get > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although there > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that another > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! > > Lin > > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Joan, Of course. But I fly a lot, and security theater (wanding a 90-year-old woman in a wheel chair.....the way my 6 year old grandson was on the No-Fly list and we had to argue about it every single time...) closes up my centers. Also I suspect it doesn’t really do any good, that the reason we haven’t had any more planes go down is a mixture of better intelligence and passenger action. (It was passengers, not Security Theater, who stopped the Underwear Bomber (to the extent that the bomb could have been ignited in this fashion in the first place, which is dubious). Perhaps we should be grateful that most terrorists seem to be dumb as a pile of rocks. F on 11/2/10 3:09 PM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... wrote: > > > > > > I do agree, , but is right. I would rather be stripped searched > that > go down on a bombed plane. Hey, at my age, that same as yours, it could be > fun!!! > LOL Joan > > ________________________________ > From: Foley <sefoley@... > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > > Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:32:58 PM > Subject: Re: Travel > > OK I guess, but do they have to act so shocked! surprised! flummoxed! when > an old lady like me shows up with an artificial knee? Here in the US > probably one out of any random ten people my age has an artificial joint, > are these people just slow (!!) learners or do I attract to myself every one > of them who’s only been on the job for three hours? > > News flash, and this is for YOU, Homeland Security, I was born in 1945, the > Baby Boom started in 1946, and there are literally millions of old people > bearing down on you with artificial hips or knees or something, so get used > to it and stop with the astonished routine, OK? > > F > TKR 1/15/09 > > on 11/2/10 1:53 AM, Waspe at mary.waspe@... > <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he knows >> > I have multiple joints, but most of the >> > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said >> > people have false passports they can have false documentation >> > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to >> > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >  >> > >> > >> > -- Re: Hip Replacement >> > >> > >> > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee >> > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would just get >> > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although there >> > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that another >> > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! >> > >> > Lin >> > >> > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been >> > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain >> > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Well yes, they do fail a lot, it seems. But I am from New York. J ________________________________ From: Foley <sefoley@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:16:38 PM Subject: Re: Travel Joan, Of course. But I fly a lot, and security theater (wanding a 90-year-old woman in a wheel chair.....the way my 6 year old grandson was on the No-Fly list and we had to argue about it every single time...) closes up my centers. Also I suspect it doesn’t really do any good, that the reason we haven’t had any more planes go down is a mixture of better intelligence and passenger action. (It was passengers, not Security Theater, who stopped the Underwear Bomber (to the extent that the bomb could have been ignited in this fashion in the first place, which is dubious). Perhaps we should be grateful that most terrorists seem to be dumb as a pile of rocks. F on 11/2/10 3:09 PM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... wrote: > > > > > > I do agree, , but is right. I would rather be stripped searched > that > go down on a bombed plane. Hey, at my age, that same as yours, it could be > fun!!! > LOL Joan > > ________________________________ > From: Foley <sefoley@... > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > > Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:32:58 PM > Subject: Re: Travel > > OK I guess, but do they have to act so shocked! surprised! flummoxed! when > an old lady like me shows up with an artificial knee? Here in the US > probably one out of any random ten people my age has an artificial joint, > are these people just slow (!!) learners or do I attract to myself every one > of them who’s only been on the job for three hours? > > News flash, and this is for YOU, Homeland Security, I was born in 1945, the > Baby Boom started in 1946, and there are literally millions of old people > bearing down on you with artificial hips or knees or something, so get used > to it and stop with the astonished routine, OK? > > F > TKR 1/15/09 > > on 11/2/10 1:53 AM, Waspe at mary.waspe@... > <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he knows >> > I have multiple joints, but most of the >> > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said >> > people have false passports they can have false documentation >> > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to >> > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >  >> > >> > >> > -- Re: Hip Replacement >> > >> > >> > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee >> > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would just get >> > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although there >> > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that another >> > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! >> > >> > Lin >> > >> > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been >> > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain >> > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 I think I might hold different opinions if I were from New York. But things have changed a lot since 2001, remember. Most of the passengers didn’t fight back on 9/11 because cooperating was the best strategy in a hijacking before that date. That won’t happen again – we’re wise to them now. Furthermore, I have read that the majority of the HIJACKERS didn’t know what the real plan was, only the leaders. So the foot-soldiers thought they were going to land somewhere or something, they didn’t understand that this was a suicide mission. That’s a trick you can only pull once – now all the terrorist candidates are wise to them too. So what we’ve seen since are lone wolves (like the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber) not organized crews. Is this because of the aforementioned difficulty in recruiting? And most of the “saves†have been not by Homeland Security, but by the passengers, who now understand the real state of things. Apparently the combination of being smart enough to be a part of such a mission as 9/11 plus being dumb enough (or fanatical enough) to be willing to blow yourself up is fairly rare. The shoe bomber and the underwear bomber were clearly not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Also I personally think there’s an awful lot going on behind the scenes by way of spying, infiltrating such groups and so forth that we never hear about. All that said, I don’t think that putting 6 year olds on the no-fly list is going to keep us safe. We need an infusion of not-stupid into Homeland Security. Frequent flyers like me are increasingly underwhelmed by Security Theater. I put up with it though for the reasons you suggest. And because I can’t do anything about it, and because I’m trying to get to Amsterdam, not provoke an incident. Fly safe. Let’s hope our luck (because it is partly that) holds. F on 11/3/10 5:17 AM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... wrote: > > > > > > Well yes, they do fail a lot, it seems. But I am from New York. J > > ________________________________ > From: Foley <sefoley@... > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > > Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:16:38 PM > Subject: Re: Travel > > Joan, > > Of course. But I fly a lot, and security theater (wanding a 90-year-old > woman in a wheel chair.....the way my 6 year old grandson was on the No-Fly > list and we had to argue about it every single time...) closes up my > centers. Also I suspect it doesn’t really do any good, that the reason we > haven’t had any more planes go down is a mixture of better intelligence and > passenger action. (It was passengers, not Security Theater, who stopped the > Underwear Bomber (to the extent that the bomb could have been ignited in > this fashion in the first place, which is dubious). > > Perhaps we should be grateful that most terrorists seem to be dumb as a pile > of rocks. > > F > > on 11/2/10 3:09 PM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... > <mailto:kell_joan%40> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I do agree, , but is right. I would rather be stripped searched >> > that >> > go down on a bombed plane. Hey, at my age, that same as yours, it could be >> > fun!!! >> > LOL Joan >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Foley <sefoley@... >> <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> >> > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > >> > Joint Replacement >> <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >> > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:32:58 PM >> > Subject: Re: Travel >> > >> > OK I guess, but do they have to act so shocked! surprised! flummoxed! when >> > an old lady like me shows up with an artificial knee? Here in the US >> > probably one out of any random ten people my age has an artificial joint, >> > are these people just slow (!!) learners or do I attract to myself every >> one >> > of them who’s only been on the job for three hours? >> > >> > News flash, and this is for YOU, Homeland Security, I was born in 1945, the >> > Baby Boom started in 1946, and there are literally millions of old people >> > bearing down on you with artificial hips or knees or something, so get used >> > to it and stop with the astonished routine, OK? >> > >> > F >> > TKR 1/15/09 >> > >> > on 11/2/10 1:53 AM, Waspe at mary.waspe@... >> <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> >> > <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he >>>> knows >>>> >> > I have multiple joints, but most of the >>>> >> > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said >>>> >> > people have false passports they can have false documentation >>>> >> > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to >>>> >> > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >  >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- Re: Hip Replacement >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee >>>> >> > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would >>>> just get >>>> >> > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although >>>> there >>>> >> > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that >>>> another >>>> >> > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Lin >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been >>>> >> > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain >>>> >> > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all >>>> >> > >>>> >> > ------------------------------------ >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Re Security Theater, read this one: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/10/for-the-first-time-the-t sa-meets-resistance-updated/65390 It doesn’t deal with artificial joints, but it’s really funny. F on 11/3/10 5:17 AM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... wrote: > > > > > > Well yes, they do fail a lot, it seems. But I am from New York. J > > ________________________________ > From: Foley <sefoley@... > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > > Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:16:38 PM > Subject: Re: Travel > > Joan, > > Of course. But I fly a lot, and security theater (wanding a 90-year-old > woman in a wheel chair.....the way my 6 year old grandson was on the No-Fly > list and we had to argue about it every single time...) closes up my > centers. Also I suspect it doesn’t really do any good, that the reason we > haven’t had any more planes go down is a mixture of better intelligence and > passenger action. (It was passengers, not Security Theater, who stopped the > Underwear Bomber (to the extent that the bomb could have been ignited in > this fashion in the first place, which is dubious). > > Perhaps we should be grateful that most terrorists seem to be dumb as a pile > of rocks. > > F > > on 11/2/10 3:09 PM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... > <mailto:kell_joan%40> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I do agree, , but is right. I would rather be stripped searched >> > that >> > go down on a bombed plane. Hey, at my age, that same as yours, it could be >> > fun!!! >> > LOL Joan >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Foley <sefoley@... >> <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> >> > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > >> > Joint Replacement >> <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >> > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:32:58 PM >> > Subject: Re: Travel >> > >> > OK I guess, but do they have to act so shocked! surprised! flummoxed! when >> > an old lady like me shows up with an artificial knee? Here in the US >> > probably one out of any random ten people my age has an artificial joint, >> > are these people just slow (!!) learners or do I attract to myself every >> one >> > of them who’s only been on the job for three hours? >> > >> > News flash, and this is for YOU, Homeland Security, I was born in 1945, the >> > Baby Boom started in 1946, and there are literally millions of old people >> > bearing down on you with artificial hips or knees or something, so get used >> > to it and stop with the astonished routine, OK? >> > >> > F >> > TKR 1/15/09 >> > >> > on 11/2/10 1:53 AM, Waspe at mary.waspe@... >> <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> >> > <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he >>>> knows >>>> >> > I have multiple joints, but most of the >>>> >> > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said >>>> >> > people have false passports they can have false documentation >>>> >> > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to >>>> >> > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >  >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- Re: Hip Replacement >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee >>>> >> > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would >>>> just get >>>> >> > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although >>>> there >>>> >> > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that >>>> another >>>> >> > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Lin >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been >>>> >> > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain >>>> >> > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all >>>> >> > >>>> >> > ------------------------------------ >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 I forgot to mention that on my last flights (SF - Ft Lauderdale) i was asked to use the total body scanner. I declined and was offered the wanding and pat down option which I took. I don't know whether that device is generally optional or whether in the future I will be offered the alternative. It is helpful to plan additional time for the airport and to be emotionally prepared for the practices that people have described here. Peace Jackie Jackie on Borntodrum.org Womendrummers.org Girightshotline.org 510-332-5998 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Why did you not want to use the total body scanner, Jackie? BARB in Florida Re: Travel I forgot to mention that on my last flights (SF - Ft Lauderdale) i was asked to use the total body scanner. I declined and was offered the wanding and pat down option which I took. I don't know whether that device is generally optional or whether in the future I will be offered the alternative. It is helpful to plan additional time for the airport and to be emotionally prepared for the practices that people have described here. Peace Jackie Jackie on Borntodrum.org Womendrummers.org Girightshotline.org 510-332-5998 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 - Maybe things changed for US travelers in 2001, but those of us who fly in and out of Israel, particularly on El Al, have been going through this for the past 40 years, ever since the early hijackings by the PLO. Don't make the mistake of thinking there's a limited supply of suicide bombers-our experience here shows that's not true. Many tricks are used to turn people who ordinarily wouldn't kill themselves or anybody else to turn them into suicide bombers. One of the favorites for Arab women is to find a woman who is suspected of having an affair or otherwise " dishonoring " her family. The terrorist cell then convinces her and her family that rather than having a family member commit an " honor killing " , if she becomes a suicide bomber, her honor will be retrieved. At least two women blew themselves up in Israel a few years ago for this very reason-one in a Haifa restaurant, killing almost 50 people and the other at a pedestrian mall in Jerusalem. Homeland security in the US has gone overboard, and also relies on methods and systems that range from " don't always work " all the way to " useless in the extreme " . Racial profiling is just one of the latter-I can't count the number of times an innocent tourist from Europe or the US was asked to carry a present for a Palestinian friend-and the " present " turned out to be a bomb big enough to down an airliner (you'd be surprised how easy that can be, by the way). However, they're not the only ones. Some European countries, notably Great Britain, haven't got a clue and are so afraid of insulting Arabs that the security checks can be worthless. Example: a few years ago, I was returning to Israel via Heathrow. There was a security alert on that day, along with the fact that the security personnel were being trained on new luggage scanners. With my two hip replacements, I couldn't stand in the line for the amount of time it was taking, so I approached a British Airways ground hostess with my hospital letter and handicapped card. She was very understanding and took me to the " VIP line " , and guess what? I was the only non-Arab in the line. There was no pat-down, no wanding and no metal detector gate on the VIP line-and this was on a day that the security status was heightened! I could have had a cannon in my pocket and gotten through. Experience in Israel has shown us that there's no substitute for an aware public. 90% of the failed bombings in Israel are foiled by ordinary citizens spotting something suspicious and calling it in to the police. I used to have a friend who was a bomb disposal expert for the police here (I moved to another city and we lost contact), who told me he'd rather answer 100 false alarms by overly suspicious citizens than have one bomb explode because the citizen was embarrassed to call the police. On the other hand, when I was a student, a few of us were discussing our last class in the college parking lot (back in the 1970s), and I got into my car, forgetting that I had put my briefcase down on the ground. I realized this after driving about 2 blocks, turned around and went back for it-the police and bomb disposal units were already there and about to blow my briefcase to smithereens. Time elapsed: no more than five minutes. It took me the best part of an hour to convince them not to destroy my class notes. One of the greatest mistakes the " geniuses " responsible for policy in security companies and agencies is in not recognizing the difference in mentality between people ready to become suicide bombers and western attitudes. Life is sacred to us, but not to them. Many of them believe the bullshine about the 72 virgins waiting for them as " martyrs to the cause " in heaven. Others have been convinced that they have nothing to live for, like the two women I mentioned earlier. Homeland security needs to stop hiring minimum-wage quality people and needs to give them more than 3 hours of training. In Israel, all the airport security personnel are IDF veterans (including the women) and go through a one-month course that includes behavior profiling (for examples of that, watch the TV program " Lie to Me " ). Behavior profiling works where racial profiling doesn't, at least in most cases-and it doesn't leave the profiler open to accusations of discrimination or racism-a real concern in the US and Europe. For us, the people with metal implants, all we can do is grin and bear it, without trying to antagonize the security personnel, no matter how stupid they might be. Registering a complaint to the security agency after the fact when abused does help, in the long run. Hopefully, one day soon, security measures in the US will make sense and be effective all over. Till then, all we can do is be aware of what's going on around us, not be embarrassed to tell security personnel about something we think might be suspicious (like an abandoned backpack or shopping bag, or a person who acts furtive and overly nervous) and hope for the best. Statistically, the chance of being on a hijacked airplane is lower than the chance of having an accident on the way to the airport. Stay alert, look around and fly safe! ( " Double Hippie " ) RTHR- 2003; LTHR - 2004 _____ From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Foley Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 4:04 PM Joint Replacement Subject: Re: Travel I think I might hold different opinions if I were from New York. But things have changed a lot since 2001, remember. Most of the passengers didn't fight back on 9/11 because cooperating was the best strategy in a hijacking before that date. That won't happen again - we're wise to them now. Furthermore, I have read that the majority of the HIJACKERS didn't know what the real plan was, only the leaders. So the foot-soldiers thought they were going to land somewhere or something, they didn't understand that this was a suicide mission. That's a trick you can only pull once - now all the terrorist candidates are wise to them too. So what we've seen since are lone wolves (like the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber) not organized crews. Is this because of the aforementioned difficulty in recruiting? And most of the " saves " have been not by Homeland Security, but by the passengers, who now understand the real state of things. Apparently the combination of being smart enough to be a part of such a mission as 9/11 plus being dumb enough (or fanatical enough) to be willing to blow yourself up is fairly rare. The shoe bomber and the underwear bomber were clearly not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Also I personally think there's an awful lot going on behind the scenes by way of spying, infiltrating such groups and so forth that we never hear about. All that said, I don't think that putting 6 year olds on the no-fly list is going to keep us safe. We need an infusion of not-stupid into Homeland Security. Frequent flyers like me are increasingly underwhelmed by Security Theater. I put up with it though for the reasons you suggest. And because I can't do anything about it, and because I'm trying to get to Amsterdam, not provoke an incident. Fly safe. Let's hope our luck (because it is partly that) holds. F No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 10:36:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Both my hips are fake and I'm only 46. I travel a great deal for work. Every now and then a screener will mention that I seem way too young to have two replacements and ask what happened. It's really none of their business, but it does not offend me in the least that they ask--they're just being friendly and make the day pass. I've never had an agent be anything but respectful and courteous during the wanding/patting process. I've been through the scanner a couple of times. I believe it's always an option (and will remain so) to ask for a pat down instead. Although, I don't understand why one would opt for the pat down. The scanner is quick and obviously painless. Do people really think the scanner operators are staring at your x-ray image for any reason other than seeing if your concealing something (double entendre intended)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 I sincerely hope that you are correct, . Joan ________________________________ From: Foley <sefoley@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 11:03:58 AM Subject: Re: Travel I think I might hold different opinions if I were from New York. But things have changed a lot since 2001, remember. Most of the passengers didn’t fight back on 9/11 because cooperating was the best strategy in a hijacking before that date. That won’t happen again – we’re wise to them now. Furthermore, I have read that the majority of the HIJACKERS didn’t know what the real plan was, only the leaders. So the foot-soldiers thought they were going to land somewhere or something, they didn’t understand that this was a suicide mission. That’s a trick you can only pull once – now all the terrorist candidates are wise to them too. So what we’ve seen since are lone wolves (like the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber) not organized crews. Is this because of the aforementioned difficulty in recruiting? And most of the “saves†have been not by Homeland Security, but by the passengers, who now understand the real state of things. Apparently the combination of being smart enough to be a part of such a mission as 9/11 plus being dumb enough (or fanatical enough) to be willing to blow yourself up is fairly rare. The shoe bomber and the underwear bomber were clearly not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Also I personally think there’s an awful lot going on behind the scenes by way of spying, infiltrating such groups and so forth that we never hear about. All that said, I don’t think that putting 6 year olds on the no-fly list is going to keep us safe. We need an infusion of not-stupid into Homeland Security. Frequent flyers like me are increasingly underwhelmed by Security Theater. I put up with it though for the reasons you suggest. And because I can’t do anything about it, and because I’m trying to get to Amsterdam, not provoke an incident. Fly safe. Let’s hope our luck (because it is partly that) holds. F on 11/3/10 5:17 AM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... wrote: > > > > > > Well yes, they do fail a lot, it seems. But I am from New York. J > > ________________________________ > From: Foley <sefoley@... > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > > Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:16:38 PM > Subject: Re: Travel > > Joan, > > Of course. But I fly a lot, and security theater (wanding a 90-year-old > woman in a wheel chair.....the way my 6 year old grandson was on the No-Fly > list and we had to argue about it every single time...) closes up my > centers. Also I suspect it doesn’t really do any good, that the reason we > haven’t had any more planes go down is a mixture of better intelligence and > passenger action. (It was passengers, not Security Theater, who stopped the > Underwear Bomber (to the extent that the bomb could have been ignited in > this fashion in the first place, which is dubious). > > Perhaps we should be grateful that most terrorists seem to be dumb as a pile > of rocks. > > F > > on 11/2/10 3:09 PM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... > <mailto:kell_joan%40> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I do agree, , but is right. I would rather be stripped searched >> > that >> > go down on a bombed plane. Hey, at my age, that same as yours, it could be >> > fun!!! >> > LOL Joan >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Foley <sefoley@... >> <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> >> > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > >> > Joint Replacement >> <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >> > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:32:58 PM >> > Subject: Re: Travel >> > >> > OK I guess, but do they have to act so shocked! surprised! flummoxed! when >> > an old lady like me shows up with an artificial knee? Here in the US >> > probably one out of any random ten people my age has an artificial joint, >> > are these people just slow (!!) learners or do I attract to myself every >> one >> > of them who’s only been on the job for three hours? >> > >> > News flash, and this is for YOU, Homeland Security, I was born in 1945, the >> > Baby Boom started in 1946, and there are literally millions of old people >> > bearing down on you with artificial hips or knees or something, so get used >> > to it and stop with the astonished routine, OK? >> > >> > F >> > TKR 1/15/09 >> > >> > on 11/2/10 1:53 AM, Waspe at mary.waspe@... >> <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> >> > <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in Queensland., he >>>> knows >>>> >> > I have multiple joints, but most of the >>>> >> > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as said >>>> >> > people have false passports they can have false documentation >>>> >> > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy to >>>> >> > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >  >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- Re: Hip Replacement >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee >>>> >> > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would >>>> just get >>>> >> > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although >>>> there >>>> >> > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that >>>> another >>>> >> > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Lin >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been >>>> >> > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain >>>> >> > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all >>>> >> > >>>> >> > ------------------------------------ >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 , With all due respect, Israel (and flying in and out of Israel) is a special case. Anyone who flies into or out of Israel, let alone anyone who even goes to Israel right now under any circumstances, well, they are taking a big risk. I¹m talking about the rest of us. I go regularly to Amsterdam from San Francisco. (Like, a lot.) Also other flying. I won¹t go to Israel. Should everyone freak out about me going to Amsterdam when I¹m not even going to Israel, just because flying to Israel is risky? Crazy. Take this shoe-bomber thing. The shoe-bomber flew out of a US airport, I believe SFO actually, so in all US airports, or at least at SFO, you have to take off your shoes. At Schiphol in Amsterdam you don¹t have to take off your shoes. How much sense does this make? Either your shoes are a Big Fat Danger, or they are not, yes? This is Homeland Security reacting with all the intelligence of a pile of rocks. I¹m a committed Christian, and I¹d love to go to Israel. But I don¹t love the idea enough to take the risk that I¹ll get killed in the course of the visit. I¹d suggest that you not generalize. You¹re talking about flying into and out of a war zone. This entails risks which aren¹t operative on most flights. F on 11/3/10 11:04 AM, on at mdavison@... wrote: > > > > > > - > > Maybe things changed for US travelers in 2001, but those of us who fly in > and out of Israel, particularly on El Al, have been going through this for > the past 40 years, ever since the early hijackings by the PLO. > > Don't make the mistake of thinking there's a limited supply of suicide > bombers-our experience here shows that's not true. Many tricks are used to > turn people who ordinarily wouldn't kill themselves or anybody else to turn > them into suicide bombers. One of the favorites for Arab women is to find a > woman who is suspected of having an affair or otherwise " dishonoring " her > family. The terrorist cell then convinces her and her family that rather > than having a family member commit an " honor killing " , if she becomes a > suicide bomber, her honor will be retrieved. At least two women blew > themselves up in Israel a few years ago for this very reason-one in a Haifa > restaurant, killing almost 50 people and the other at a pedestrian mall in > Jerusalem. > > Homeland security in the US has gone overboard, and also relies on methods > and systems that range from " don't always work " all the way to " useless in > the extreme " . Racial profiling is just one of the latter-I can't count the > number of times an innocent tourist from Europe or the US was asked to carry > a present for a Palestinian friend-and the " present " turned out to be a bomb > big enough to down an airliner (you'd be surprised how easy that can be, by > the way). However, they're not the only ones. Some European countries, > notably Great Britain, haven't got a clue and are so afraid of insulting > Arabs that the security checks can be worthless. > > Example: a few years ago, I was returning to Israel via Heathrow. There was > a security alert on that day, along with the fact that the security > personnel were being trained on new luggage scanners. With my two hip > replacements, I couldn't stand in the line for the amount of time it was > taking, so I approached a British Airways ground hostess with my hospital > letter and handicapped card. She was very understanding and took me to the > " VIP line " , and guess what? I was the only non-Arab in the line. There was > no pat-down, no wanding and no metal detector gate on the VIP line-and this > was on a day that the security status was heightened! I could have had a > cannon in my pocket and gotten through. > > Experience in Israel has shown us that there's no substitute for an aware > public. 90% of the failed bombings in Israel are foiled by ordinary > citizens spotting something suspicious and calling it in to the police. I > used to have a friend who was a bomb disposal expert for the police here (I > moved to another city and we lost contact), who told me he'd rather answer > 100 false alarms by overly suspicious citizens than have one bomb explode > because the citizen was embarrassed to call the police. On the other hand, > when I was a student, a few of us were discussing our last class in the > college parking lot (back in the 1970s), and I got into my car, forgetting > that I had put my briefcase down on the ground. I realized this after > driving about 2 blocks, turned around and went back for it-the police and > bomb disposal units were already there and about to blow my briefcase to > smithereens. Time elapsed: no more than five minutes. It took me the best > part of an hour to convince them not to destroy my class notes. > > One of the greatest mistakes the " geniuses " responsible for policy in > security companies and agencies is in not recognizing the difference in > mentality between people ready to become suicide bombers and western > attitudes. Life is sacred to us, but not to them. Many of them believe the > bullshine about the 72 virgins waiting for them as " martyrs to the cause " in > heaven. Others have been convinced that they have nothing to live for, like > the two women I mentioned earlier. > > Homeland security needs to stop hiring minimum-wage quality people and needs > to give them more than 3 hours of training. In Israel, all the airport > security personnel are IDF veterans (including the women) and go through a > one-month course that includes behavior profiling (for examples of that, > watch the TV program " Lie to Me " ). Behavior profiling works where racial > profiling doesn't, at least in most cases-and it doesn't leave the profiler > open to accusations of discrimination or racism-a real concern in the US and > Europe. > > For us, the people with metal implants, all we can do is grin and bear it, > without trying to antagonize the security personnel, no matter how stupid > they might be. Registering a complaint to the security agency after the > fact when abused does help, in the long run. Hopefully, one day soon, > security measures in the US will make sense and be effective all over. Till > then, all we can do is be aware of what's going on around us, not be > embarrassed to tell security personnel about something we think might be > suspicious (like an abandoned backpack or shopping bag, or a person who acts > furtive and overly nervous) and hope for the best. > > Statistically, the chance of being on a hijacked airplane is lower than the > chance of having an accident on the way to the airport. > > Stay alert, look around and fly safe! > > ( " Double Hippie " ) > > RTHR- 2003; LTHR - 2004 > > _____ > > From: Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> > [mailto:Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> ] On Behalf Of Foley > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 4:04 PM > Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> > Subject: Re: Travel > > I think I might hold different opinions if I were from New York. > > But things have changed a lot since 2001, remember. Most of the passengers > didn't fight back on 9/11 because cooperating was the best strategy in a > hijacking before that date. That won't happen again - we're wise to them > now. Furthermore, I have read that the majority of the HIJACKERS didn't > know what the real plan was, only the leaders. So the foot-soldiers thought > they were going to land somewhere or something, they didn't understand that > this was a suicide mission. That's a trick you can only pull once - now all > the terrorist candidates are wise to them too. > > So what we've seen since are lone wolves (like the shoe bomber and the > underwear bomber) not organized crews. Is this because of the > aforementioned difficulty in recruiting? And most of the " saves " have been > not by Homeland Security, but by the passengers, who now understand the real > state of things. > > Apparently the combination of being smart enough to be a part of such a > mission as 9/11 plus being dumb enough (or fanatical enough) to be willing > to blow yourself up is fairly rare. The shoe bomber and the underwear > bomber were clearly not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Also I > personally think there's an awful lot going on behind the scenes by way of > spying, infiltrating such groups and so forth that we never hear about. > > All that said, I don't think that putting 6 year olds on the no-fly list is > going to keep us safe. We need an infusion of not-stupid into Homeland > Security. Frequent flyers like me are increasingly underwhelmed by Security > Theater. > > I put up with it though for the reasons you suggest. And because I can't do > anything about it, and because I'm trying to get to Amsterdam, not provoke > an incident. > > Fly safe. Let's hope our luck (because it is partly that) holds. > > F > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 > 10:36:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 someone would have to be crazy to even consider strip searching an old fat lady like me.........BARB in Florida Re: Hip Replacement > > > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope with a knee > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would just > get > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although > there > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that another > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! > > Lin > > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have been > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have pain > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Me too, since I fly all the time. With all due respect, hassling a 6 year old over and over and over while he and his parents and grandparents are trying to get to Disneyland is not improving our air safety, it’s just theater to convince us that something is being done, however pointless that action might be. What I am convinced of is something else again. The kid doesn’t have a bomb, get it? He’s SIX YEARS OLD. Or maybe you don’t get it, and if so you need....what? A brain infusion? The ability to exercise common sense? No, we all need to stand around for the better part of an hour while the Homeland Guy tries to figure out what to do. He’s dumb as a pile of rocks. And the rules don’t give him any discretion. We could carry a six-month baby through with the same name and get the same response. Hello?? Does this improve our security? Who knows. The dumbness of alleged terrorists is met only by the dumbness of Homeland Security. Let us hope for dumb luck. So far so good. I don’t have a bomb in my knee either. Hope those guys catch on. S on 11/3/10 12:25 PM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... wrote: > > > > > > I sincerely hope that you are correct, . Joan > > ________________________________ > From: Foley <sefoley@... > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > > Joint Replacement > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> > Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 11:03:58 AM > Subject: Re: Travel > > I think I might hold different opinions if I were from New York. > > But things have changed a lot since 2001, remember. Most of the passengers > didn’t fight back on 9/11 because cooperating was the best strategy in a > hijacking before that date. That won’t happen again – we’re wise to them > now. Furthermore, I have read that the majority of the HIJACKERS didn’t > know what the real plan was, only the leaders. So the foot-soldiers thought > they were going to land somewhere or something, they didn’t understand that > this was a suicide mission. That’s a trick you can only pull once – now all > the terrorist candidates are wise to them too. > > So what we’ve seen since are lone wolves (like the shoe bomber and the > underwear bomber) not organized crews. Is this because of the > aforementioned difficulty in recruiting? And most of the “saves†have been > not by Homeland Security, but by the passengers, who now understand the real > state of things. > > Apparently the combination of being smart enough to be a part of such a > mission as 9/11 plus being dumb enough (or fanatical enough) to be willing > to blow yourself up is fairly rare. The shoe bomber and the underwear > bomber were clearly not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Also I > personally think there’s an awful lot going on behind the scenes by way of > spying, infiltrating such groups and so forth that we never hear about. > > All that said, I don’t think that putting 6 year olds on the no-fly list is > going to keep us safe. We need an infusion of not-stupid into Homeland > Security. Frequent flyers like me are increasingly underwhelmed by Security > Theater. > > I put up with it though for the reasons you suggest. And because I can’t do > anything about it, and because I’m trying to get to Amsterdam, not provoke > an incident. > > Fly safe. Let’s hope our luck (because it is partly that) holds. > > F > > on 11/3/10 5:17 AM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... > <mailto:kell_joan%40> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Well yes, they do fail a lot, it seems. But I am from New York. J >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Foley <sefoley@... >> <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> >> > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > >> > Joint Replacement >> <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >> > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:16:38 PM >> > Subject: Re: Travel >> > >> > Joan, >> > >> > Of course. But I fly a lot, and security theater (wanding a 90-year-old >> > woman in a wheel chair.....the way my 6 year old grandson was on the No-Fly >> > list and we had to argue about it every single time...) closes up my >> > centers. Also I suspect it doesn’t really do any good, that the reason we >> > haven’t had any more planes go down is a mixture of better intelligence and >> > passenger action. (It was passengers, not Security Theater, who stopped >> the >> > Underwear Bomber (to the extent that the bomb could have been ignited in >> > this fashion in the first place, which is dubious). >> > >> > Perhaps we should be grateful that most terrorists seem to be dumb as a >> pile >> > of rocks. >> > >> > F >> > >> > on 11/2/10 3:09 PM, Joan Kell at kell_joan@... >> <mailto:kell_joan%40> >> > <mailto:kell_joan%40> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I do agree, , but is right. I would rather be stripped >>>> searched >>>> >> > that >>>> >> > go down on a bombed plane. Hey, at my age, that same as yours, it >>>> could be >>>> >> > fun!!! >>>> >> > LOL Joan >>>> >> > >>>> >> > ________________________________ >>>> >> > From: Foley <sefoley@... >>>> <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> >>> >> <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> >>>> >> > <mailto:sefoley%40foleyfoleylaw.com> > >>>> >> > Joint Replacement >>>> <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >>> >> <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >>>> >> > <mailto:Joint Replacement%40> >>>> >> > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:32:58 PM >>>> >> > Subject: Re: Travel >>>> >> > >>>> >> > OK I guess, but do they have to act so shocked! surprised! flummoxed! when >>>> >> > an old lady like me shows up with an artificial knee? Here in the US >>>> >> > probably one out of any random ten people my age has an artificial >>>> joint, >>>> >> > are these people just slow (!!) learners or do I attract to myself >>>> every >> > one >>>> >> > of them who’s only been on the job for three hours? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > News flash, and this is for YOU, Homeland Security, I was born in >>>> 1945, the >>>> >> > Baby Boom started in 1946, and there are literally millions of old >>>> people >>>> >> > bearing down on you with artificial hips or knees or something, so get used >>>> >> > to it and stop with the astonished routine, OK? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > F >>>> >> > TKR 1/15/09 >>>> >> > >>>> >> > on 11/2/10 1:53 AM, Waspe at mary.waspe@... >>>> <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> >>> >> <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> >>>> >> > <mailto:mary.waspe%40bigpond.com> wrote: >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > My Brother is head of security at all the airports in >>>>>>>> Queensland., he >>>>> >>>> knows >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I have multiple joints, but most of the >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Security people don't believe me as I am so young, but as >>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people have false passports they can have false documentation >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Every thing and anything is copied. And in this day and age I am happy > to >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have whatever search they deem necessary to keep me safe. >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > -- Re: Hip Replacement >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Good luck Goldie - I was really worried about how I'd cope >>>>>>>> with a knee >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > replacement, but thought that if I didnt have it my mobility would >>>>> >>>> just get >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > worse, not better, so I took the plunge. I'm glad I did. But although >>>>> >>>> there >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > is currently a problem with some hip replacements, I'm sure that >>>>> >>>> another >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > brand will be used in future - I would hope so, anyway! >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Lin >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I need a hip replacement but I am worried about getting on , I have > been >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > hearing all this about recalls, I just dont know what to do, I have > pain >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > every day I get tried alot and feel down alot. Thank you all >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > ------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 With all due respect, it would not be impossible for that 6-year-old to have a bomb inside that cute, life-size Winnie-the-Pooh doll he's carrying. 8-year-old Vietnamese children planted bombs in cafes where US soldiers congregated in Saigon. This is what I meant when I said one of the greatest mistakes security policy makers commit-assigning the same values they hold to their enemies. Don't assume that the terrorist planners are dumb-Yihieh Ayish, responsible for dozens of bombings in Israel until he was taken out was known as " the Engineer " , and held a Master's degree in Electronics. Hanadi Jaradat, the woman who suicide bombed the Maxim restaurant in Haifa in 2003 was a cum laude law graduate. Marwan Barghouti, in prison with half-a-dozen life sentences for planning the Sbarro bombing in Jerusalem (among others) holds a Master's degree in international relations. Assuming terrorists are stupid is a BIG mistake. Luckily, the " cannon fodder " usually isn't as smart. _____ From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Foley Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:23 AM Joint Replacement Subject: Re: Travel Me too, since I fly all the time. With all due respect, hassling a 6 year old over and over and over while he and his parents and grandparents are trying to get to Disneyland is not improving our air safety, it's just theater to convince us that something is being done, however pointless that action might be. What I am convinced of is something else again. The kid doesn't have a bomb, get it? He's SIX YEARS OLD. Or maybe you don't get it, and if so you need....what? A brain infusion? The ability to exercise common sense? No, we all need to stand around for the better part of an hour while the Homeland Guy tries to figure out what to do. He's dumb as a pile of rocks. And the rules don't give him any discretion. We could carry a six-month baby through with the same name and get the same response. Hello?? Does this improve our security? Who knows. The dumbness of alleged terrorists is met only by the dumbness of Homeland Security. Let us hope for dumb luck. So far so good. I don't have a bomb in my knee either. Hope those guys catch on. S No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 10:36:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 — I don't know what papers you're reading, but they are misleading you terribly. It's safer to walk down the street in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem than it is to walk down the streets of Tiajuana, Rio de Janiero or even cities in the US where gang violence is common. Walking down a street in certain parts of LA or Detroit is far more dangerous than being in Israel. If you want to see a war zone, you'll have to visit Sderot and the rest of the area bordering the Gaza Strip. Find some other Israelis on Facebook, MSN, or Orkut and talk to them if you don't believe me. Going to and from Israel, I would only fly an Israeli airline, purely because the security is run by Israeli security personnel, not the locals. The (anti-hijacking) safety record of Israeli airlines is the best in the world—zero hijackings since 1970. Try to find some more reliable sources before you think of all of Israel as a " war zone " . _____ From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Foley Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:52 PM Joint Replacement Subject: Re: Travel , With all due respect, Israel (and flying in and out of Israel) is a special case. Anyone who flies into or out of Israel, let alone anyone who even goes to Israel right now under any circumstances, well, they are taking a big risk. I¹m talking about the rest of us. I go regularly to Amsterdam from San Francisco. (Like, a lot.) Also other flying. I won¹t go to Israel. Should everyone freak out about me going to Amsterdam when I¹m not even going to Israel, just because flying to Israel is risky? Crazy. Take this shoe-bomber thing. The shoe-bomber flew out of a US airport, I believe SFO actually, so in all US airports, or at least at SFO, you have to take off your shoes. At Schiphol in Amsterdam you don¹t have to take off your shoes. How much sense does this make? Either your shoes are a Big Fat Danger, or they are not, yes? This is Homeland Security reacting with all the intelligence of a pile of rocks. I¹m a committed Christian, and I¹d love to go to Israel. But I don¹t love the idea enough to take the risk that I¹ll get killed in the course of the visit. I¹d suggest that you not generalize. You¹re talking about flying into and out of a war zone. This entails risks which aren¹t operative on most flights. F No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 10:36:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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