Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Dear Peoples! This is a support group for people to discuss joint replacement surgery. Please take this discussion elsewhere. Thanks! Peace, Jackie -- Jackie on Jackiett@... R-TKR 3-19-09 L-TKR 9-1-09 Dr. Patch On 11/4/10 12:14 AM, " on " <mdavison@...> wrote: > — > > > > I don't know what papers you're reading, but they are misleading you > terribly. It's safer to walk down the street in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem than > it is to walk down the streets of Tiajuana, Rio de Janiero or even cities in > the US where gang violence is common. Walking down a street in certain parts > of LA or Detroit is far more dangerous than being in Israel. If you want to > see a war zone, you'll have to visit Sderot and the rest of the area > bordering the Gaza Strip. > > > > Find some other Israelis on Facebook, MSN, or Orkut and talk to them > if you don't believe me. > > > > Going to and from Israel, I would only fly an Israeli airline, purely > because the security is run by Israeli security personnel, not the locals. > The (anti-hijacking) safety record of Israeli airlines is the best in the > world—zero hijackings since 1970. > > > > Try to find some more reliable sources before you think of all of Israel as > a " war zone " . > > > > > > _____ > > From: Joint Replacement > [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Foley > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:52 PM > Joint Replacement > Subject: Re: Travel > > > > > > , > > With all due respect, Israel (and flying in and out of Israel) is a special > case. Anyone who flies into or out of Israel, let alone anyone who even > goes to Israel right now under any circumstances, well, they are taking a > big risk. > > I¹m talking about the rest of us. I go regularly to Amsterdam from San > Francisco. (Like, a lot.) Also other flying. I won¹t go to Israel. > Should everyone freak out about me going to Amsterdam when I¹m not even > going to Israel, just because flying to Israel is risky? Crazy. > > Take this shoe-bomber thing. The shoe-bomber flew out of a US airport, I > believe SFO actually, so in all US airports, or at least at SFO, you have to > take off your shoes. At Schiphol in Amsterdam you don¹t have to take off > your shoes. How much sense does this make? Either your shoes are a Big Fat > Danger, or they are not, yes? This is Homeland Security reacting with all > the intelligence of a pile of rocks. > > I¹m a committed Christian, and I¹d love to go to Israel. But I don¹t love > the idea enough to take the risk that I¹ll get killed in the course of the > visit. > > I¹d suggest that you not generalize. You¹re talking about flying into and > out of a war zone. This entails risks which aren¹t operative on most > flights. > > F > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 > 10:36:00 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 , Saying that Tel Aviv is safer than Tijuana (a place I am actually familiar with) is to damn Tel Aviv with faint praise. No sensible American goes to Tijuana except under direst need, and the locals are all terrified too. As they should be. Both Mexico and Israel are suffering a decline in tourism because of bad publicity, but so far as I can tell no one is making these stories up, there ARE suicide bombers in Jerusalem who don¹t much care who they take out, and there IS a drug war going on in Mexico. That doesn¹t mean that everyone who goes to either place is immediately shot or blown up, but it does make travel to those places risky. When I was a lot younger I¹d disregard this kind of information, but perhaps getting older makes me more cautious. I don¹t want to go to Jerusalem badly enough to take the risk. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, as it says in the psalm. F on 11/4/10 12:14 AM, on at mdavison@... wrote: > — > > > > I don't know what papers you're reading, but they are misleading you > terribly. It's safer to walk down the street in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem than > it is to walk down the streets of Tiajuana, Rio de Janiero or even cities in > the US where gang violence is common. Walking down a street in certain parts > of LA or Detroit is far more dangerous than being in Israel. If you want to > see a war zone, you'll have to visit Sderot and the rest of the area > bordering the Gaza Strip. > > > > Find some other Israelis on Facebook, MSN, or Orkut and talk to them > if you don't believe me. > > > > Going to and from Israel, I would only fly an Israeli airline, purely > because the security is run by Israeli security personnel, not the locals. > The (anti-hijacking) safety record of Israeli airlines is the best in the > world—zero hijackings since 1970. > > > > Try to find some more reliable sources before you think of all of Israel as > a " war zone " . > > > > > > _____ > > From: Joint Replacement > [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Foley > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:52 PM > Joint Replacement > Subject: Re: Travel > > > > > > , > > With all due respect, Israel (and flying in and out of Israel) is a special > case. Anyone who flies into or out of Israel, let alone anyone who even > goes to Israel right now under any circumstances, well, they are taking a > big risk. > > I¹m talking about the rest of us. I go regularly to Amsterdam from San > Francisco. (Like, a lot.) Also other flying. I won¹t go to Israel. > Should everyone freak out about me going to Amsterdam when I¹m not even > going to Israel, just because flying to Israel is risky? Crazy. > > Take this shoe-bomber thing. The shoe-bomber flew out of a US airport, I > believe SFO actually, so in all US airports, or at least at SFO, you have to > take off your shoes. At Schiphol in Amsterdam you don¹t have to take off > your shoes. How much sense does this make? Either your shoes are a Big Fat > Danger, or they are not, yes? This is Homeland Security reacting with all > the intelligence of a pile of rocks. > > I¹m a committed Christian, and I¹d love to go to Israel. But I don¹t love > the idea enough to take the risk that I¹ll get killed in the course of the > visit. > > I¹d suggest that you not generalize. You¹re talking about flying into and > out of a war zone. This entails risks which aren¹t operative on most > flights. > > F > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 > 10:36:00 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Sorry, Jackie, I got off topic. You can delete my messages on this point if you wish. F on 11/4/10 12:26 AM, on at jackiett@... wrote: > > > > > > Dear Peoples! > > This is a support group for people to discuss joint replacement surgery. > > Please take this discussion elsewhere. > > Thanks! > > Peace, > > Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Thanks, . I would never delete your posts on the topic. They are always informational and inspirational. Peace, Jackie On 11/4/10 8:19 AM, " Foley " <sefoley@...> wrote: > > > > > > Sorry, Jackie, I got off topic. You can delete my messages on this point if > you wish. > > F > > on 11/4/10 12:26 AM, on at jackiett@... > <mailto:jackiett%40att.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear Peoples! >> > >> > This is a support group for people to discuss joint replacement surgery. >> > >> > Please take this discussion elsewhere. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Peace, >> > >> > Jackie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 I noted in an earlier post that I travel frequently and have never had an issue with the screeners being anything but professional and courteous. I think one reason is I'm prepared. When I step through the metal detector and it goes " bing, " I have on no shoes, no belt, no watch, no rings, absolutely nothing in my pockets. Other than my clothes, I have my driver's license and boarding pass in my hands. And, I'm friendly and courteous as they go about their job of wanding and patting me down. This process has never taken more than a couple minutes. And I've flown at least 50 times with my fake hip(s). The people that I notice getting held up and treated somewhat rudely are the " clueless " ones. You know them. They walk through the metal detector and find they had their cell phone in their pocket. They go through again, " oh whoops, my watch is in my pocket. " The third time, it's the forgotten eye glass case-- " oh I did not think that would set it off... " For an embarrassing story, one time as the screener was finishing with his pat down, he said quietly: " sir, your fly is open. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 I know I'm terrible on followup to my enquiries but 'nother question: has anybody on here been on a cruise recently? Because there's the vague sliver of a chance that I might be going on one if I think it won't affect my health too much. I was just wondering if anyone's had specific problems with navigational equipment and stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 > I know I'm terrible on followup to my enquiries but 'nother question: > has anybody on here been on a cruise recently? Because there's the vague > sliver of a chance that I might be going on one if I think it won't > affect my health too much. I was just wondering if anyone's had specific > problems with navigational equipment and stuff like that. I went on a cruise several years ago when I had far worse ES than I do now. The worst areas of the ship for me was the casino. :-) Otherwise, it wasn't really a problem... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 I went on a cruise on one of the newer ships and the Wi-Fi was very strong. They had strong Wi-Fi routers every few rooms. Even in public areas walking up and down the steps it was up to several mW/m^2. I think the top of the boat was a little better. I used shielding fabric at night to block it in the cabin. You may be better off on an older ship without all the new technology. > > I know I'm terrible on followup to my enquiries but 'nother question: has anybody on here been on a cruise recently? Because there's the vague sliver of a chance that I might be going on one if I think it won't affect my health too much. I was just wondering if anyone's had specific problems with navigational equipment and stuff like that. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 > > > I know I'm terrible on followup to my enquiries but 'nother question: > > has anybody on here been on a cruise recently? Because there's the vague > > sliver of a chance that I might be going on one if I think it won't > > affect my health too much. I was just wondering if anyone's had specific > > problems with navigational equipment and stuff like that. > > I went on a cruise several years ago when I had far worse ES than I do > now. The worst areas of the ship for me was the casino. :-) > > Otherwise, it wasn't really a problem... > > Marc > What size was the ship? The one I have a hail- chance of getting on is comparatively small - an Xpedition I think it was - for tooling around the Galapagos islands. The receptionist desk for the travel agency was no help whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 > What size was the ship? The one I have a hail- chance of getting on > is comparatively small - an Xpedition I think it was - for tooling around > the Galapagos islands. The receptionist desk for the travel agency was > no help whatsoever. No, the one I was on was one of the BIG cruise ships, with hundreds (thousands?) of passengers. And I don't think there was any wi-fi on it... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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