RE: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

[Guest guest]

Hi E. Drew,

ES is complicated because it's not just microwaves that can cause problems.

There's also electricity, magnetic fields, and VLF (very low frequencies). It

seems that some forms of EMF can cause enough damage that they sensitize you to

other forms of EMF that you previously weren't sensitive to. I watched a video

once of a woman who was fine before she lived near a cell tower. After that

experience, she became sensitive to other electronics and wireless devices she

never was sensitive to before. In other words, though you are now away from the

smart meters, you may have been damaged enough by the smart meters that you

developed a new sensitivity, e.g., to electricity now. I would recommend to try

turning the electricity off altogether from the circuit breaker panel as a test

to see if you're sensitive to electricity.

As for the conductive shielding, it does work to shield against microwaves, but

it may also pick up nearby electrical fields. The larger area the fabric

covers, the more electrical fields it will pick up from surrounding walls and

floor (coming from the wiring you do not see). I think if you are wearing the

fabric close to your body, you probably won't pick up any electrical fields that

you wouldn't have already picked up because of the water in our bodies which is

naturally conductive anyway. However, if you are making a large tent, your tent

corners may be in positions of high electricity that you would never physically

be near otherwise.

Note: Conductive shielding doesn't seem to help with VLF, which needs to be

addressed separately, usually by unplugging the source of it.

I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I

even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters.

....

> Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none

of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there

will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive

shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The

company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo

my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and

most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

[Guest guest]

One more thing. You can find many things to correct at your current place at

http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php

For example, this year I finally took care of the dimmer switches of my home and

had them replaced to on-off switches, and I tried shutting off some circuit

breakers I didn't need. I should have done it years ago, but I didn't know at

that time about intermediate frequencies and electric fields.

> I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I

even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters.

>

> ...

>

> > Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c

none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon

there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive

shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The

company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo

my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and

most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

>

[Guest guest]

Have you considered heavy metals as being a cause of the sensitivities. I keep

coming on information about how it makes EM sensitivity worse and is always a

component of Lyme disease, and just about every chronic disease. I know I have

tons of heavy metals, and I have chronic Lyme disease. I don't know for sure I

am EM sensitive, but I do know that the only time I sleep like a baby is when

I'm in a remote mountain area where there is no cell phones, etc. Makes me

think I am EM sensitive.

>

> Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart

Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a

complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor,

or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as

we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I

can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or

not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had

my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop

in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can

also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery

to fix it).

>

> Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if

I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like

I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

>

> Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none

of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there

will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive

shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The

company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo

my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and

most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

>

> Thanks so much.

> -E. Drew

>

[Guest guest]

E. Drew,

You've got it bad and there is no more fooling around with this and

that.

I would go to Klinghardt in Oregon and check yourself in.

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/

I know you have no money. I would appeal to their charity side and

see if they can write off your treatment as an experimental case or

something.

You will get a lot of different points of advice on this list, many

very good and helpful.

I don't think you can afford to tinker any more. Go to the man.

On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:21 PM, researcher004 wrote:

> Have you considered heavy metals as being a cause of the

> sensitivities. I keep coming on information about how it makes EM

> sensitivity worse and is always a component of Lyme disease, and

> just about every chronic disease. I know I have tons of heavy

> metals, and I have chronic Lyme disease. I don't know for sure I

> am EM sensitive, but I do know that the only time I sleep like a

> baby is when I'm in a remote mountain area where there is no cell

> phones, etc. Makes me think I am EM sensitive.

>

>

>>

>> Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No

>> diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now

>> literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's

>> been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or

>> anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-

>> day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms.

>> Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous

>> system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms

>> before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak

>> limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer

>> coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than

>> I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a

>> few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid

>> cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even

>> occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain &

>> body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around

>> Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by

>> September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going

>> to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It

>> doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as

>> his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I

>> can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically

>> hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes

>> started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long

>> enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets

>> of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can

>> also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't

>> afford the surgery to fix it).

>>

>> Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger

>> ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may

>> sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being

>> done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike

>> many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense

>> exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was

>> 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I

>> haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only

>> stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100

>> ft. away.

>>

>> Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even

>> SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf

>> work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can

>> work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a

>> fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is

>> sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity

>> fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding

>> seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics,

>> it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying

>> that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling

>> symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from

>> Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

>> Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis,

>> choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does

>> anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so

>> long after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not

>> this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

>>

>> Thanks so much.

>> -E. Drew

>>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I would go to Klinghardt in Oregon and check yourself in.

> http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/

Klinghardt is in Washington, not Oregon. :-)

I've been there. I didn't go back. It takes months to get

into see Klinghardt. He is very expensive. And there is

no guarantee that what he'll do will help.

I know of someone who spent 2 years and $20,000

going to Klinghardt with nothing to show for it.

Eventually she switched to the doctor who I'm

seeing now (although I wouldn't necessarily

recommend her either).

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hey has anyone heard about soaking your feet in sea salt? The woman who suffers

from EMS that I work for did this...and now is even more sick...I think it may

have thrown off the electrolytes?

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:37 PM

 

> I would go to Klinghardt in Oregon and check yourself in.

> http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/

Klinghardt is in Washington, not Oregon. :-)

I've been there. I didn't go back. It takes months to get

into see Klinghardt. He is very expensive. And there is

no guarantee that what he'll do will help.

I know of someone who spent 2 years and $20,000

going to Klinghardt with nothing to show for it.

Eventually she switched to the doctor who I'm

seeing now (although I wouldn't necessarily

recommend her either).

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Hey has anyone heard about soaking your feet in sea salt? The woman who

> suffers from EMS that I work for did this...and now is even more sick...I

> think it may have thrown off the electrolytes?

I can't recall anyone mentioning anything about this in the past... I think

mostly people soak in Epsom Salt baths, although I've also seen

recommendations for soaking with Baking Soda and various clays.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I think soaking in sea salt is quite popular...

In below link, you can read about Snoshoe and Ada, both liking the sea salt:

/message/18081

On the same link you can read about people (Diane) happy about the Epsom salt

(MgSO4),

There's also a lot of enthusiasm by some for MagnesiumChloride MgCl2

(Lizzie...).

Comparing MgCl2 vs Epsom Salt MgSO4:

http://alobar.livejournal.com/2746060.html

(they prefer MgCl2)

I think most say it's good to add some baking soda as well when bathing in salt?

>

> > Hey has anyone heard about soaking your feet in sea salt? The woman who

> > suffers from EMS that I work for did this...and now is even more sick...I

> > think it may have thrown off the electrolytes?

>

> I can't recall anyone mentioning anything about this in the past... I think

> mostly people soak in Epsom Salt baths, although I've also seen

> recommendations for soaking with Baking Soda and various clays.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

Effective are good ionic foot spas.

Otherwise one can bath its feet in very hot water, where baking soda is added.

This way, a lot of stuff may get out of your feet.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

I think soaking in sea salt is quite popular...

In below link, you can read about Snoshoe and Ada, both liking the sea salt:

/message/18081

On the same link you can read about people (Diane) happy about the Epsom salt

(MgSO4),

There's also a lot of enthusiasm by some for MagnesiumChloride MgCl2

(Lizzie...).

Comparing MgCl2 vs Epsom Salt MgSO4:

http://alobar.livejournal.com/2746060.html

(they prefer MgCl2)

I think most say it's good to add some baking soda as well when bathing in

salt?

>

> > Hey has anyone heard about soaking your feet in sea salt? The woman who

> > suffers from EMS that I work for did this...and now is even more sick...I

> > think it may have thrown off the electrolytes?

>

> I can't recall anyone mentioning anything about this in the past... I think

> mostly people soak in Epsom Salt baths, although I've also seen

> recommendations for soaking with Baking Soda and various clays.

>

> Marc

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

That's just it, I'm not near ANY electricity, except for the solar battery which

I only use to deliver power to the wiring every few days, & only when needed.

The only thing I leave on all the time is the switch used to allow the battery

to be charged by the solar panel on the roof. That doesn't seem to be bothering

me. I'm in an area where there's no power lines for 2 miles, & I think the

 nearest cell tower is a mile away, so I'nm not sure why it's so bad. Just

extra worried b/c of severity of symptoms, & because when they install Smart

Meters in this area, the nearest 1 will only be a mile away. I just hope that's

enuf distance for it to not affect me, tho the range of the SM's is over 2

miles. 

-E. Drew

From: emraware <emraware@...>

Subject: Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 8:06 PM

 

Hi E. Drew,

ES is complicated because it's not just microwaves that can cause problems.

There's also electricity, magnetic fields, and VLF (very low frequencies). It

seems that some forms of EMF can cause enough damage that they sensitize you to

other forms of EMF that you previously weren't sensitive to. I watched a video

once of a woman who was fine before she lived near a cell tower. After that

experience, she became sensitive to other electronics and wireless devices she

never was sensitive to before. In other words, though you are now away from the

smart meters, you may have been damaged enough by the smart meters that you

developed a new sensitivity, e.g., to electricity now. I would recommend to try

turning the electricity off altogether from the circuit breaker panel as a test

to see if you're sensitive to electricity.

As for the conductive shielding, it does work to shield against microwaves, but

it may also pick up nearby electrical fields. The larger area the fabric

covers, the more electrical fields it will pick up from surrounding walls and

floor (coming from the wiring you do not see). I think if you are wearing the

fabric close to your body, you probably won't pick up any electrical fields that

you wouldn't have already picked up because of the water in our bodies which is

naturally conductive anyway. However, if you are making a large tent, your tent

corners may be in positions of high electricity that you would never physically

be near otherwise.

Note: Conductive shielding doesn't seem to help with VLF, which needs to be

addressed separately, usually by unplugging the source of it.

I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I

even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters.

....

> Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none

of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there

will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive

shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The

company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo

my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

[Guest guest]

Hello. Yes, there are multiple issues going on, & i've def. considered heavy

metals. I had my 1st seizure 1 yr. after getting my 1st fillings, which only

contain tiny bits of metal. I know Lyme makes people hold on to mercury like

crazy, but again, it means I need to see a better Lyme doctor willing to treat

it as a chronic condition; not gonna happen b/c it's too controversial, & w/

Smart Meters everywhere, I can't go to doctors anymore. I've been taking

Chlorella, ALA & cilantro to chelate mercury & the other metals for the last 1.5

yrs.; w/o success. I do know that the bacteria in jaw cavitations are actually

considered more toxic than mercury, but again, the health fx of cavitations

aren't well-recognized. Maybe you could try the chelation protocol I did & see

if it helps you. I would advise NOT to do the typical chelators, like EDTA &

DMPS, b/c my Lyme doc has warned me that he's had patients who got permanent

brain & CNS damage from using these

modalities. Bon courage, mon ami

From: researcher004 <sy.sherlock@...>

Subject: Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 12:21 PM

 

Have you considered heavy metals as being a cause of the sensitivities. I

keep coming on information about how it makes EM sensitivity worse and is always

a component of Lyme disease, and just about every chronic disease. I know I

have tons of heavy metals, and I have chronic Lyme disease. I don't know for

sure I am EM sensitive, but I do know that the only time I sleep like a baby is

when I'm in a remote mountain area where there is no cell phones, etc. Makes me

think I am EM sensitive.

>

> Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the

towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit

by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the

library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak,

as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if

the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And

finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom

teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the

pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also

predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to

fix it).

>

> Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if

I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like

I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

>

> Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none

of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there

will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive

shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The

company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo

my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

>

> Thanks so much.

> -E. Drew

>

[Guest guest]

In my case, the closest cellphone towers (3 masts close to one another) are 1

mile from my house.

Here in Flanders = North of Belgium (Europe), that's pretty exceptional far away

from cellphone masts!

I'm wondering, are there people here on who live more than 1 mile from the

nearest cellphone tower? Let me know where you live and I'll pay you a visit!

;-)

Of course the strength of the signal of the cellphone tower will also have to be

taken into account + what kind of signal (2G, 3G/Umts, 4G,...) + how many

electrosmog in that area...

For instance, I feel better in an area (south of Belgium/Ardennes) with less

cellphone towers, even although I'm sometimes much closer to cellphone towers

than 1 mile...

.

> > where there's no power lines for 2 miles, & I think the nearest cell tower

is a mile away, so I'nm not sure why it's so bad.

>

> Only One mile?

> You should see a video I made on my ridge top, good reception of cell

> tower 7 miles away. One mile is very close for cell phones.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, E,

 

Welcome to the group!  I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems!  You

have more than your fair share going on.   

 

I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned,

and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope

not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already!    ) 

As to why it would last so long after...  I imagine it is a reaction to actual

brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling

like genetic damage was being done).  That said, while I have had these

" seizures " probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear

up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage.  (Not that

lasting damage can not occur.)  Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for

recovery, generally speaking.

 

I had a similar thing last summer.  I had what medical professionals are now

saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to

my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all

together--not all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2

to 4.)  Also, I am nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think

I was too young to be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime

stroke material, so docs now think these are strokes!  (They were probably

strokes all along, but we called them seizures back when I was younger.)

 

I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but

nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and

I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3

weeks to get my strength back after the initial event.  I had had a toxic

exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was

being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't

identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper

atmosphere from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or

not the case).  I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing

vehicle which shocked my system.  Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt

like switches being turned on and off in the top of my head.  A minute or so

after that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom

to lie down.  The weakness and other

symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had. 

However, the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke.  The one last

summer included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness,

problems walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't

think of how to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say. 

 

I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me

think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity.  During the 90s I

had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year.  I had medical testing of all

sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on.  In contrast, I think

I may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3

times in the decade since.

 

So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit.  I doubt this is worsening ALS or

Lyme.  And your current symptoms will likely subside in time.  I do think

it has to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these

types of things.  If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do

go and try to figure it out with him/ her.  Maybe today (a decade later than

all my testing), they will know more.

 

I wish you the best.  Bless you,

Diane

From: necessejamais <necessejamais@...>

Subject: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

 

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the

towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit

by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the

library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak,

as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if

the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And

finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom

teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the

pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also

predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to

fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I

go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I

could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of

my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will

be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding

hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is

sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my

situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.

-E. Drew

[Guest guest]

Here's something that fits right in with the stroke/seizure info. Dr.

Moulden states: " Ischemia, hypoxia Microcirculation strokes (Mass & Zeta) is a

common process to ALL vaccines, heavy metals, toxins, and infectious diseases. "

Somewhere else in his information he says that strokes can also be caused from

environmental factors. Although he doesn't specifically state (that I have found

yet, anyway) that these environmental factors could be non-ionising radiation,

the whole thing fits like a glove! I saw him at an anti vaccine seminar, (dvd

called: Tolerance Lost) and he had pictures of children/babies where he

pinpointed the areas of the face ie: eyes, corners of mouth, etc...that he

proved were caused from vaccine injury. Of importance is the " delayed

factor " ...which I have noticed with myself when exposed to cell phone

radiation/wifi etc. It does make sense, that any time the body is assaulted by

toxins, be they from vaccines or radiation, such severe reactions such as

stroke/seizures could occur.

Lizzie

Dr. Moulden BrainGuard MD - Homeopathy World Community

Jun 15, 2009 ... TOLERANCE LOST VOLUME 1 - First 26 minutes of Volume One from

Tolerance Lost - a 3 DVD disk (6 hours run time) series that provides the

....www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/.../dr-andrew-moulden-brainguard

From: evie15422@...

Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:57:07 -0700

Subject: Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Hi, E,

Welcome to the group! I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems! You

have more than your fair share going on.

I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned,

and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope

not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already! ) As

to why it would last so long after... I imagine it is a reaction to actual

brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling

like genetic damage was being done). That said, while I have had these

" seizures " probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear

up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage. (Not that

lasting damage can not occur.) Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for

recovery, generally speaking.

I had a similar thing last summer. I had what medical professionals are now

saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to

my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all together--not

all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2 to 4.) Also, I am

nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think I was too young to

be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime stroke material, so

docs now think these are strokes! (They were probably strokes all along, but we

called them seizures back when I was younger.)

I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but

nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and

I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3

weeks to get my strength back after the initial event. I had had a toxic

exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was

being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't

identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper atmosphere

from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or not the

case). I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing vehicle

which shocked my system. Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt like

switches being turned on and off in the top of my head. A minute or so after

that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom to lie

down. The weakness and other

symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had. However,

the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke. The one last summer

included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness, problems

walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't think of how

to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say.

I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me

think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity. During the 90s I

had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year. I had medical testing of all

sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on. In contrast, I think I

may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3

times in the decade since.

So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit. I doubt this is worsening ALS or

Lyme. And your current symptoms will likely subside in time. I do think it has

to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these types

of things. If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do go and

try to figure it out with him/ her. Maybe today (a decade later than all my

testing), they will know more.

I wish you the best. Bless you,

Diane

From: necessejamais <necessejamais@...>

Subject: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the

towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit

by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the

library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak,

as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if

the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And

finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom

teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the

pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also

predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to

fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I

go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I

could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of

my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will

be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding

hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is

sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my

situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.

-E. Drew

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information, Lizzie. 

 

I appreciate all the info you are always sending us!  (I don't have enough time

to read it all, unfortunately, but what I do read is helpful!)

 

I would think (and maybe you might know if this is the case), that strokes could

be caused by calcium leakage with the tight junctions not operating

correctly.  And perhaps this could lead to clumpy blood via calcium plaques? 

Clumpy blood (the medical term would be plaque build up in the blood!  lol) is

something I have experienced all my life, but it is not always clumpy. 

Sometimes my blood is actually too thin, as well.  If emfs open tjs and cause

calcium leakage, and toxin chemical exposure do the same (I think personally for

me they seem to--I have greater gut leakage after chemical exposures), then

would not the calcium moving thru the blood stream cause plaques which would

lead to strokes??? 

 

Thanks again

Just curious,

Diane

 

From: necessejamais <necessejamais@...>

Subject: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the

towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit

by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the

library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak,

as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if

the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And

finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom

teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the

pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also

predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to

fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I

go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I

could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of

my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will

be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding

hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is

sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my

situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.

-E. Drew

[Guest guest]

Oh, I forgot...  one reason I am asking this is, for those of us who

experience these strokes or seizures, we could monitor for thick blood and take

an aspirin on the days it was very thick; thereby making the risk factor lower

for having a stroke.  Right?

From: necessejamais <necessejamais@...>

Subject: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the

towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit

by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the

library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak,

as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if

the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And

finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom

teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the

pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also

predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to

fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I

go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I

could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of

my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will

be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding

hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is

sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my

situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.

-E. Drew

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure where exactly the towers are here, but I think the closest

is about 2 miles away. You are welcome for a visit, but I don't think it

will help you much. And I think the trip to Australia will cause more

harm than being a bit farther away from a cell phone tower.:-)

Rixta

> Here in Flanders = North of Belgium (Europe), that's pretty exceptional far

away from cellphone masts!

>

> I'm wondering, are there people here on who live more than 1 mile from

the nearest cellphone tower? Let me know where you live and I'll pay you a

visit! ;-)

>

> Of course the strength of the signal of the cellphone tower will also have to

be taken into account + what kind of signal (2G, 3G/Umts, 4G,...) + how many

electrosmog in that area...

>

> For instance, I feel better in an area (south of Belgium/Ardennes) with less

cellphone towers, even although I'm sometimes much closer to cellphone towers

than 1 mile...

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>>> where there's no power lines for 2 miles, & I think the nearest cell tower

is a mile away, so I'nm not sure why it's so bad.

>> Only One mile?

>> You should see a video I made on my ridge top, good reception of cell

>> tower 7 miles away. One mile is very close for cell phones.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are natural forms of analgesics one can take, that would be far safer for

the body. Such as: Marjoram essential oil,Eucalyptus oil, Ginger (there are lots

of ginger teas out there- I recommend the organic ones), Lavender oil, Oregano

both in oil form and there are Oregano capsules, as well as Peppermint Oil and

again there are Peppermint teas, as well as Rosemary Oil. Wintergreen essential

oil is also very good for pain. These can all be used transdermally ON the

SKIN...as the skin is the body's largest organ, it will absorb a high amt of

these oils/ or even teas...but for teas, I would suggest not boiling the

water...as the heat will destroy the nutrients in the tea. Warm to mildly hot

works. (Hot enough to stick your finger in the water without burning your

finger.)

A good one for head-aches is to put a dab of Peppermint Oil on temples and

forehead. A good blend for aches/pains is combining equal amts of both Marjoram

and Basil Oil, diluted with Olive Oil. Many over the counter drugs come from

china...the risk of contamination would be very high, with their track record.

Mind you, the above selection is a great one...being that people respond

differently to things...I would venture to say that there is something in the

above list of choices that would work for all.....some may respond better to the

Peppermint, others to the Ginger, etc. For newbies, I recommend diluting the

oils...they -if of good origins, are very potent.

Lizzie

From: evie15422@...

Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:26:32 -0700

Subject: RE: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Oh, I forgot... one reason I am asking this is, for those of us who experience

these strokes or seizures, we could monitor for thick blood and take an aspirin

on the days it was very thick; thereby making the risk factor lower for having a

stroke. Right?

From: necessejamais <necessejamais@...>

Subject: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the

towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit

by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the

library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak,

as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if

the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And

finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom

teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the

pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also

predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to

fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I

go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I

could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of

my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will

be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding

hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is

sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my

situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.

-E. Drew

[Guest guest]

Hi Lizzie,

 

Thanks for the info.

 

Diane

From: necessejamais <necessejamais@...>

Subject: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the

towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit

by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the

library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak,

as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if

the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And

finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom

teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the

pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also

predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to

fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I

go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I

could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of

my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will

be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding

hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is

sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my

situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.

-E. Drew

[Guest guest]

You are very welcome.

Lizzie

From: evie15422@...

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:37:35 -0700

Subject: RE: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Hi Lizzie,

Thanks for the info.

Diane

From: necessejamais <necessejamais@...>

Subject: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw

cavitations...(???)

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until

age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying

from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure

(no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since

my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I

had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary

thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as

temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up,

poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever

experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER

removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these

symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling

of brain & body being

microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the

towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit

by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the

library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak,

as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if

the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And

finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom

teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the

pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also

predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to

fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I

go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I

could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to

healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more

intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5;

it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a

building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS

had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of

my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will

be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding

hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is

sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my

situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The

company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that

grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite

the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just

damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the

Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking,

increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas

as to why the symptoms have persisted so long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more

Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.

-E. Drew