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Hi Logan:

How sure are you about this issue?

As evidence of an alternative point of view I would direct your

attention to Spindler's recent CR mice study, which we discussed here

at some length a few months ago at the time it was published. The

controls and those on CR were all fed an entirely 'chemically

defined' diet - not just for vitamins and minerals, but also for

carbohydates (starch, sucrose and dextrin I believe) and protein

(casein). Even the fat, soybean oil, is very nearly all well

understood organic, chemical, molecules.

The control mice did just fine on this diet. And the CR mice lived

much longer than the controls, just as expected, eating the same

identical chemicals with the sole exception that they consumed much

less starch.

So do you have information that persuasively supports the view that,

in general, bio-natural (as you describe them) vitamins and minerals

are materially superior to the others in any respect other than price?

Rodney.

> I don't find it particularly authoritative to be making such a

> statement without further qualification as the one below, when

> a " vitamin or mineral is not a vitamin or mineral " just as much as

> a " calorie is not a calorie " .

>

> With the technology now available to provide true bio-natural

> vitamins and minerals of at least the RDI levels, there's

absolutely

> no reason to still utilize synthetic vitamin and mineral isolates,

> economically supporting the same chemical conglomerates (Roche, et

> al.) who have an insidious agenda of controlling and suppressing

> natural therapies. Vote with your money and these conglomerate's

> political power will become meaningless.

>

> Logan

>

> --- In , " maxwell_mom "

<mrobinso@m...>

> > Those who fall under a food's spell frequently say they crave it

> > for " a nutritional need, " said Marcia Pelchat, an associate

> professor

> > at the Monell Chemical Senses Center, a private research facility

> in

> > Philadelphia. To test that theory, Pelchat and her colleagues put

a

> > group of healthy young adults on a liquid diet that provided

plenty

> > of calories and all the essential vitamins and minerals needed.

> Study

> > participants still craved certain foods, suggesting, Pelchat

said,

> > that " nutritional deficits are not necessary for cravings. "

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