RE: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now but I

haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet connection

and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my only

problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I had

hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager 220v)

which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much pain

but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from them

I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my health

concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he prob

thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the USB

cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would

effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and there

would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering can

any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has given

me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best to

get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with elsewhere

on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very

limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph

________________________________

From: Evie <evie15422@...>

Sent: Sat, 28 May, 2011 20:57:01

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi

 

Hi Pamela,

 

Sorry, I am only online on weekends, so I am just getting to this email!

 

I use 2 cups (1 pound) of baking soda/ bath.  My tub is a standard 3 by 5 feet

and holds about 11 inches of water.

 

I don't remember the recipe for lemons.  One thing here: lemons mess with my

digestive acids a bit too much, so I personally couldn't continue that

therapy. 

Alkalized water drops (a supplement which added minerals to raise the pH of

drinking water) worked very well for me, tho.  Hydrogen supplements (like

Hydrogen Booster and Mega-H) raise pH too.

 

Hope this helps you!

Diane

>

>

> Emraware,

>

> You seem to have assumed that I was referring to you. I wasn't addressing that

>to you - unless you post under several different screenames that I'm not aware

>of? It was someone else who once suggested that I could disable the wireless

>router remotely, through software or via the Internet.

>

> And like I've said several times before, I'm in a living situation where I

>don't have the power to make the household decisions that many of you may take

>for granted. So it's not that I don't know about the dangers of wireless -

which

>is what you seem to have presumed - it's just that I can't do much about it. If

>I had the authority, I would have gotten rid of WiFi a long time ago. As it is,

>I have to do what is within my power - which isn't as much as you or a lot of

>other people can do.

>

> I may not be able to get rid of WiFi - but at least I can make it a little

more

> " comfortable " . It's a good thing that I can do this much - or I would probably

>be in a *very* bad place now (not that my situation is exactly good or safe

>now).

>

>

> It's a good thing that my parents are in some ways even less computer savvy

>than I am - they didn't even realize that I had made those changes to the WiFi

>settings. They wouldn't have ever had to know....but I did end up mentioning it

>to them on a couple of occasions. They still may not fully understand what I

>did. Apparently they don't even care that much - as long as the router remains

>on and the computers can still access the Internet.

>

> Our router is located in the basement - so we're not exactly at " ground

>zero " ...but it seems to be a very strong router - much stronger than our old

>Comcast router (which was the white, Netgear router). I don't remember feeling

>the Comcast router, unless I was at ground zero.

>

> There appears to be an option where you can command the wireless adapter to

>operate on lower power. There are 4 settings for the wireless adapter: " maximum

>performance " , " low power saving " , " medium power saving " , & " maximum power

>saving " . Apparently, the wireless adapter is on the " maximum performance " when

>it's plugged in - then goes to " low power saving " on battery. I guess I should

>try to lower these settings and see how my computer does - I've never tried

> " medium power saving " or " maximum power saving " .

>

>

> There is even a button on the computer itself where if you press it, it turns

>off the wireless adapter. But I don't really have the option of turning it

>completely off - I pretty much have to use wireless.

>

> In the manual for this computer - it is recommended that you remain at least 8

>inches from the wireless antenna - which is located inside of the upper margin

>of the screen, apparently. Supposedly you are within the government's " safe "

>exposure limits when you are 8 inches away - although that's probably not

saying

>much...

>

> ~Svetaswan

>

>

>>

>>> Another thing that I finally started doing was dialing down the power output

of

>>>our satanic AT & T WiFry router. I remember you telling me that I could do this

>>

>> Svetaswan,

>>

>> I don't remember ever suggesting this. I use a wired router w/ ethernet

cables

>>instead of a wireless router.

>>

>> Even if you lower your Wi-Fi router's power, that's only half of the

equation.

>>Your dominant exposure is probably from Wi-Fi on your laptop-- which would be

>>right next to you... Does your laptop have a similar " dial-down " option?

>>

>> One acquaintance of mine tested a wi-fi router and found at a distance of 1

>>meter, the radiation was the same as that of a cell phone held directly to the

>>head. I think some laptops might be similar? IMO, one should " disable " Wi-Fi

on

>>the laptop via the control panel, network settings. That's the best.

>>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Steph

Good news for you!

I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here

before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT

phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been

delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base

station built in.

I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here:

http://theomegaway.com/hub

I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true -

AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does

turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector.

AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable

wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here:

http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they

send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best

to get them to confirm)

Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too!

You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4

network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several

computers - more about all that, and more on the home page:

http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/>

If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on

that website contact page!

All the best

son

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now

but I

haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet

connection

and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my

only

problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I

had

hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager

220v)

which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much

pain

but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from

them

I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my

health

concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he

prob

thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the

USB

cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would

effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and

there

would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering

can

any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has

given

me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best

to

get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with

elsewhere

on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very

limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph

________________________________

From: Evie <evie15422@... <mailto:evie15422%40> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sat, 28 May, 2011 20:57:01

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi

Hi Pamela,

Sorry, I am only online on weekends, so I am just getting to this email!

I use 2 cups (1 pound) of baking soda/ bath. My tub is a standard 3 by 5

feet

and holds about 11 inches of water.

I don't remember the recipe for lemons. One thing here: lemons mess with my

digestive acids a bit too much, so I personally couldn't continue that

therapy.

Alkalized water drops (a supplement which added minerals to raise the pH of

drinking water) worked very well for me, tho. Hydrogen supplements (like

Hydrogen Booster and Mega-H) raise pH too.

Hope this helps you!

Diane

>

>

> Emraware,

>

> You seem to have assumed that I was referring to you. I wasn't addressing

that

>to you - unless you post under several different screenames that I'm not

aware

>of? It was someone else who once suggested that I could disable the

wireless

>router remotely, through software or via the Internet.

>

> And like I've said several times before, I'm in a living situation where I

>don't have the power to make the household decisions that many of you may

take

>for granted. So it's not that I don't know about the dangers of wireless -

which

>is what you seem to have presumed - it's just that I can't do much about

it. If

>I had the authority, I would have gotten rid of WiFi a long time ago. As it

is,

>I have to do what is within my power - which isn't as much as you or a lot

of

>other people can do.

>

> I may not be able to get rid of WiFi - but at least I can make it a little

more

> " comfortable " . It's a good thing that I can do this much - or I would

probably

>be in a *very* bad place now (not that my situation is exactly good or safe

>now).

>

>

> It's a good thing that my parents are in some ways even less computer

savvy

>than I am - they didn't even realize that I had made those changes to the

WiFi

>settings. They wouldn't have ever had to know....but I did end up

mentioning it

>to them on a couple of occasions. They still may not fully understand what

I

>did. Apparently they don't even care that much - as long as the router

remains

>on and the computers can still access the Internet.

>

> Our router is located in the basement - so we're not exactly at " ground

>zero " ...but it seems to be a very strong router - much stronger than our

old

>Comcast router (which was the white, Netgear router). I don't remember

feeling

>the Comcast router, unless I was at ground zero.

>

> There appears to be an option where you can command the wireless adapter

to

>operate on lower power. There are 4 settings for the wireless adapter:

" maximum

>performance " , " low power saving " , " medium power saving " , & " maximum power

>saving " . Apparently, the wireless adapter is on the " maximum performance "

when

>it's plugged in - then goes to " low power saving " on battery. I guess I

should

>try to lower these settings and see how my computer does - I've never tried

> " medium power saving " or " maximum power saving " .

>

>

> There is even a button on the computer itself where if you press it, it

turns

>off the wireless adapter. But I don't really have the option of turning it

>completely off - I pretty much have to use wireless.

>

> In the manual for this computer - it is recommended that you remain at

least 8

>inches from the wireless antenna - which is located inside of the upper

margin

>of the screen, apparently. Supposedly you are within the government's

" safe "

>exposure limits when you are 8 inches away - although that's probably not

saying

>much...

>

> ~Svetaswan

>

>

>>

>>> Another thing that I finally started doing was dialing down the power

output of

>>>our satanic AT & T WiFry router. I remember you telling me that I could do

this

>>

>> Svetaswan,

>>

>> I don't remember ever suggesting this. I use a wired router w/ ethernet

cables

>>instead of a wireless router.

>>

>> Even if you lower your Wi-Fi router's power, that's only half of the

equation.

>>Your dominant exposure is probably from Wi-Fi on your laptop-- which would

be

>>right next to you... Does your laptop have a similar " dial-down " option?

>>

>> One acquaintance of mine tested a wi-fi router and found at a distance of

1

>>meter, the radiation was the same as that of a cell phone held directly to

the

>>head. I think some laptops might be similar? IMO, one should " disable "

Wi-Fi on

>>the laptop via the control panel, network settings. That's the best.

>>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi john

Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great!

I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router which

they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they upgraded

him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think

would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never

bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly - [if

I can't use my Dad's  old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even the

3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose house

is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that

the

3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me problems?

I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions, but I

am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be

grwatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Steph

 

________________________________

From: son <john@...>

Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41

Subject: RE: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

 

Hello Steph

Good news for you!

I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here

before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT

phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been

delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base

station built in.

I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here:

http://theomegaway.com/hub

I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true -

AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does

turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector.

AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable

wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here:

http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they

send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best

to get them to confirm)

Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too!

You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4

network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several

computers - more about all that, and more on the home page:

http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/>

If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on

that website contact page!

All the best

son

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now

but I

haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet

connection

and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my

only

problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I

had

hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager

220v)

which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much

pain

but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from

them

I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my

health

concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he

prob

thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the

USB

cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would

effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and

there

would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering

can

any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has

given

me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best

to

get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with

elsewhere

on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very

limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph

________________________________

From: Evie <evie15422@... <mailto:evie15422%40> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sat, 28 May, 2011 20:57:01

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi

Hi Pamela,

Sorry, I am only online on weekends, so I am just getting to this email!

I use 2 cups (1 pound) of baking soda/ bath. My tub is a standard 3 by 5

feet

and holds about 11 inches of water.

I don't remember the recipe for lemons. One thing here: lemons mess with my

digestive acids a bit too much, so I personally couldn't continue that

therapy.

Alkalized water drops (a supplement which added minerals to raise the pH of

drinking water) worked very well for me, tho. Hydrogen supplements (like

Hydrogen Booster and Mega-H) raise pH too.

Hope this helps you!

Diane

>

>

> Emraware,

>

> You seem to have assumed that I was referring to you. I wasn't addressing

that

>to you - unless you post under several different screenames that I'm not

aware

>of? It was someone else who once suggested that I could disable the

wireless

>router remotely, through software or via the Internet.

>

> And like I've said several times before, I'm in a living situation where I

>don't have the power to make the household decisions that many of you may

take

>for granted. So it's not that I don't know about the dangers of wireless -

which

>is what you seem to have presumed - it's just that I can't do much about

it. If

>I had the authority, I would have gotten rid of WiFi a long time ago. As it

is,

>I have to do what is within my power - which isn't as much as you or a lot

of

>other people can do.

>

> I may not be able to get rid of WiFi - but at least I can make it a little

more

> " comfortable " . It's a good thing that I can do this much - or I would

probably

>be in a *very* bad place now (not that my situation is exactly good or safe

>now).

>

>

> It's a good thing that my parents are in some ways even less computer

savvy

>than I am - they didn't even realize that I had made those changes to the

WiFi

>settings. They wouldn't have ever had to know....but I did end up

mentioning it

>to them on a couple of occasions. They still may not fully understand what

I

>did. Apparently they don't even care that much - as long as the router

remains

>on and the computers can still access the Internet.

>

> Our router is located in the basement - so we're not exactly at " ground

>zero " ...but it seems to be a very strong router - much stronger than our

old

>Comcast router (which was the white, Netgear router). I don't remember

feeling

>the Comcast router, unless I was at ground zero.

>

> There appears to be an option where you can command the wireless adapter

to

>operate on lower power. There are 4 settings for the wireless adapter:

" maximum

>performance " , " low power saving " , " medium power saving " , & " maximum power

>saving " . Apparently, the wireless adapter is on the " maximum performance "

when

>it's plugged in - then goes to " low power saving " on battery. I guess I

should

>try to lower these settings and see how my computer does - I've never tried

> " medium power saving " or " maximum power saving " .

>

>

> There is even a button on the computer itself where if you press it, it

turns

>off the wireless adapter. But I don't really have the option of turning it

>completely off - I pretty much have to use wireless.

>

> In the manual for this computer - it is recommended that you remain at

least 8

>inches from the wireless antenna - which is located inside of the upper

margin

>of the screen, apparently. Supposedly you are within the government's

" safe "

>exposure limits when you are 8 inches away - although that's probably not

saying

>much...

>

> ~Svetaswan

>

>

>>

>>> Another thing that I finally started doing was dialing down the power

output of

>>>our satanic AT & T WiFry router. I remember you telling me that I could do

this

>>

>> Svetaswan,

>>

>> I don't remember ever suggesting this. I use a wired router w/ ethernet

cables

>>instead of a wireless router.

>>

>> Even if you lower your Wi-Fi router's power, that's only half of the

equation.

>>Your dominant exposure is probably from Wi-Fi on your laptop-- which would

be

>>right next to you... Does your laptop have a similar " dial-down " option?

>>

>> One acquaintance of mine tested a wi-fi router and found at a distance of

1

>>meter, the radiation was the same as that of a cell phone held directly to

the

>>head. I think some laptops might be similar? IMO, one should " disable "

Wi-Fi on

>>the laptop via the control panel, network settings. That's the best.

>>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

Glad you like the site!

It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/> (get it?!?)

What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I

have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has

one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to

ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a

network hub to be able to then network to more computers).

But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has

the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling

the wifi:

http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT

phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one)

may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated

with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a

separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from

you?

Are you being affected already?

Cheers

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hi john

Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great!

I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router

which

they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they

upgraded

him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think

would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never

bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly -

[if

I can't use my Dad's old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even

the

3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose

house

is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that

the

3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me

problems?

I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions,

but I

am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be

grwatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Steph

________________________________

From: son <john@...

<mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41

Subject: RE: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello Steph

Good news for you!

I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here

before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT

phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been

delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base

station built in.

I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here:

http://theomegaway.com/hub

I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true -

AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does

turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector.

AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable

wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here:

http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they

send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best

to get them to confirm)

Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too!

You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4

network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several

computers - more about all that, and more on the home page:

http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/>

If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on

that website contact page!

All the best

son

_____

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now

but I

haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet

connection

and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my

only

problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I

had

hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager

220v)

which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much

pain

but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from

them

I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my

health

concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he

prob

thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the

USB

cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would

effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and

there

would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering

can

any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has

given

me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best

to

get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with

elsewhere

on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very

limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph

[Guest guest]

I like this website . I will forward to others. Loni

From: son <john@...>

Subject: RE: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 3:38 PM

 

Hi Steph,

Glad you like the site!

It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/> (get it?!?)

What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I

have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has

one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to

ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a

network hub to be able to then network to more computers).

But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has

the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling

the wifi:

http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT

phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one)

may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated

with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a

separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from

you?

Are you being affected already?

Cheers

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hi john

Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great!

I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router

which

they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they

upgraded

him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think

would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never

bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly -

[if

I can't use my Dad's old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even

the

3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose

house

is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that

the

3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me

problems?

I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions,

but I

am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be

grwatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Steph

________________________________

From: son <john@...

<mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41

Subject: RE: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello Steph

Good news for you!

I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here

before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT

phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been

delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base

station built in.

I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here:

http://theomegaway.com/hub

I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true -

AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does

turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector.

AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable

wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here:

http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they

send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best

to get them to confirm)

Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too!

You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4

network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several

computers - more about all that, and more on the home page:

http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/>

If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on

that website contact page!

All the best

son

_____

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now

but I

haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet

connection

and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my

only

problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I

had

hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager

220v)

which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much

pain

but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from

them

I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my

health

concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he

prob

thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the

USB

cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would

effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and

there

would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering

can

any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has

given

me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best

to

get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with

elsewhere

on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very

limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph

[Guest guest]

________________________________

From: son <john@...>

Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 23:38:29

Subject: RE: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

 

Hi Steph,

Glad you like the site!

It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/> (get it?!?)

What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I

have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has

one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to

ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a

network hub to be able to then network to more computers).

But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has

the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling

the wifi:

http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT

phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one)

may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated

with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a

separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from

you?

Are you being affected already?

Cheers

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hi john

Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great!

I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router

which

they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they

upgraded

him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think

would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never

bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly -

[if

I can't use my Dad's old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even

the

3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose

house

is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that

the

3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me

problems?

I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions,

but I

am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be

grwatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Steph

________________________________

From: son <john@...

<mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41

Subject: RE: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello Steph

Good news for you!

I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here

before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT

phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been

delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base

station built in.

I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here:

http://theomegaway.com/hub

I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true -

AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does

turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector.

AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable

wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here:

http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they

send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best

to get them to confirm)

Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too!

You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4

network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several

computers - more about all that, and more on the home page:

http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/>

If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on

that website contact page!

All the best

son

_____

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Re: Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now

but I

haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet

connection

and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my

only

problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I

had

hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager

220v)

which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much

pain

but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from

them

I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my

health

concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he

prob

thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the

USB

cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would

effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and

there

would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering

can

any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has

given

me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best

to

get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with

elsewhere

on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very

limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph