Re: ReRe: Calcium AEP (Formerly blood pressure...)

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Hi, Kathy,

 

By the way, I didn't mean to imply one should not take magnesium with calcium, 

I only meant to imply I do not take it WITH and WHEN I take my cal AEP/

pantethine for ES symptoms.  I do make sure I get enough magnesium--I eat

high magnesium foods and I still bathe in it (and for those who think epsom

salts is not the correct one to use in the bath, I use it for the sulfate

content too).  I also can tell when I need magnesium supplementation (I watch

for symptoms) and I can tell when I need more to counteract calcium (also from

symptoms).  I am writing this because, I thought I gave mis-information

earlier this week, since I implied magnesium was not always needed when you take

cal AEP and pantethine. 

 

You are not me and perhaps you (or others) will need extra magnesium.  I

sometimes forget that others don't necessarily know the symptoms to look

for, when taking various supplements.  So, if you are taking cal AEP/

pantethine at first, you definitely will need magnesium.  If you take cal/

pant like me, only twice a week or less, you will be able to take it by itself

during a particularly bad emf exposure, if you are eating a high magnesium diet

or bathing in magnesium otherwise.  Another way to take magnesium is as oil

you rub on your skin.  I like that rather than a supplement. 

 

I am probably the number 1 fan of supplements here and, tho I use them for all

sorts of problems, I do not take them digestively on an ongoing basis.  I think

you need to give your digestion a break when you can.  I take D3 during the

winter only--and only 3 X / week, sometimes 2X.  I take a multi-vit/min on

days I am running around and I miss a full meal as well as before and during

holidays, to make sure I am up to the challenge.  I have been taking zinc,

glucosamine, and coconut oil regularly lately.  (I need the zinc, coconut oil

does great things for several of my on-going problems, and I am trying out

glucosamine just for curiousity sake to see what I might see a difference in.) 

These are the only ones I am taking daily, now.  I try to remain aware of my

body and what it needs, rather than willy-nilly take supplements, tho to others,

it might sound like that is exactly what I do, especially when I don't explain

myself!  lol 

 

As to your questions about cal AEP killing yeasts:

 

Only calcium AEP is supposed to kill yeast, to my knowledge.  However, I got it

backwards when I explained the trojan horse concept.  Candida like to

be surrounded by calcium but they can't live with calcium inside their

colonies.  The candida can be fooled into uptaking AEP into its colony and then

the calcium part of the supplement kills the colony.  This is not mentioned in

recent cal AEP literature and I think it used to be.  I know who told me this

originally-- Byron s.  He was my nutritionist for awhile.  He makes

similar mention of lactoferrin doing the same thing in his pod cast on candida,

here:

 

http://www.nutritionreview.org/library/calcium_aep.php  Track #4

 

Here is more info about just calcium AEP, and what it does (I didn't find

mention of it killing candida here, either):

 

http://www.nutritionreview.org/library/calcium_aep.php 

 

http://www.hfme.org/researchaepandme.htm  (info on why cal AEP is good

for CFS/ME)

 

http://www.wellnessresources.com/products/calcium_aep.php  (the brand I take

and what Byron s' site now says about it.) 

 

I had read the bit about it killing candida elsewhere, besides hearing it from

Byron, but I searched a good number of sites and didn't find it.  Maybe further

research found AEP was not that effective in killing candida?!?  I don't know

why Byron would not have mentioned it in his podcast if he still thought it was

good for killing candida!

 

Sorry this is so long.  With me, you get long or you get confused!  lol 

Hope all is well with you,

Diane

From: torch369 <torch369@...>

Subject: Re: EMF Exposures, Blood Pressure and Heart Beat.

Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 1:55 PM

 

Interesting info, thanks. I happen to have calcium aep and pantethine in my

cabinet and will try this. I will also make sure I take the taurine every day. I

already take CoQ10

Steve

>

> Hi, , Marjij, and others with bp changes,

>  

> I hope it works for you too, , and you are able to sell your house

very soon!  I have all types of autonomic nervous system symptoms when I am

exposed too long to particular emfs.  I have bp plummeting, but I suspect

that is what happens when you have too many exposures causing high bp and your

andrenals finally fizzle out [or vice versa--too low and then too high

bp.  When I was younger I had high bp at times and we didn't know why back

then, which is why I think the former might sometimes be the case.] 

>  

> I have been pretty successful at treating my too low bp with calcium AEP

and pantethine.  [i have no idea what this combo would do for too high bp;

but it might help the adrenals from going completely bonkers, if taken on a

daily basis but not necessarily when bp is high.]  Also I have taken

manganese and taurine which help me to withstand more emfs without reacting, for

longer periods.  [i don't necessarily recommend this supplementation unless

you can do more research on it yourself and determine that manganese and

taurine will not be detrimental to your health.  Manganese itself can be a

toxic metal.  Taurine supplementation, however, is highly recommended by Dr.

Tennent, of " Healing is Voltage " , fame.]  I came to using all 4 of these

on my own, so I cannot point you to a doctor for this.  My nutritionist

had previously recommended cal AEP and pantethine for adrenal insufficiency and

lymphatic overload.  I found

the manganese and taurine

> searching for ways to close leaking calcium channels.  [i have long

suspected damaged tight junctions and ion channel pathways are at least

partly to blame for my reactions to emfs.  I appear to have blood brain

barrier tight junction damage.  Also I appear to have calcium

ion-channel problems.  When the tight junctions do not properly

close, the calcium can leak from that cell and it takes manganese

to close the tight junction again.]  I usually take the cal

and pantethine now only when my bp tanks, but previously, for adrenal and

lymphatic overload, I worked my way up to very high amounts for over a year +

timeframe under the care of a nutritionist.  Not everybody who tries

this (cal AEP and pantethine) finds it helpful, which leads me to think

one needs precursor supplementation, as well (which I also did), which are

very person specific.  Calcium, pantethine, and co Q 10 (which I

also took/ take--tho spuratically now) are the 3

> most essential nutrients for the adrenals and lymphatic system.  In those

of us with autonomic nervous system symptoms, it does, however, appear that

lymphatic overload and adrenal exhaustion is involved.  So this is a good

place to start working on to heal.  Supplementation can be

effective.  Homeopathy can also be effective in in helping to heal these

organs if you can find a very good homeopathist in your area.  It is also

likely you need to work on your liver, as it is often dysfunctional when your

lymphatic system is overworked.  Just suggestions to look into. 

>  

> Hope you all find therapies which work for you,

> Diane

>