CR - Calorie Reduction Relative To What?

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Is it that CR - calorie reduction is relative to a ""typical

'American'"" diet?

For me it seems that optimum nutrition with optimum calories ONOC is a

more accurate way to characterize the intent of CRON.

Instead of using a typical 'American' diet as a base line it would seem

a diet of typical people (from all over the planet) that have what is

considered optimal health (and long life) would be a more sensible base

line.

An optimal long and healthy life seems to be what CRON is about. Which

certainly is less, a lot less calories than a typical 'American' and a

lot better nutrition too - not emaciated thin or excessively obese.

Or am I missing something?

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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:31:12 -0400

From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

Subject: Re: Validity of Studies to CR Practitioners

And your evidence for that statement is.........????

This takes us back to whether ON is just as important as CR. IMHO yes. I

have often posted that I've seen too many thin people ( thin because

they

didn't eat much) die young - anecdotal to be sure, but I'm keeping my

diet

as high quality as possible.....I ain't taking any chances.

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This following comment is not directed at anybody in particular, but IMO

life is not a contest to see who lives the most hours. The goal if there is

one, might be to actually accomplish something. More hours should help us

accomplish more as long as we don't spend too many of those hours just

trying to get more hours.

JR

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:40:41 -0500

From: "jwwright" <jwwright@...>

Subject: Re: Validity of Studies to CR Practitioners

Not to disagree.

I've never been sure what CRON is actually. Sounds like CRON is CRAN but adding more vitamins, minerals by trying to "optimize" what nutrients we need. Like eat more essential aminos and less sugar/high caloric density carbos. But that leaves me eating a lot of grass and in there is a lot of stuff we literally know nothing (as in <1%) about. Some chemicals are so minute that we tend to think they are not hazardous, BUT I know of some drugs we take in doses of micrograms. I eat what veggies I can eat, maybe a pound and maybe a pound of fruit per day, but I still need more energy and that has to be grain or oil. Funny. I never hear of a high density oil being bad. Like someone thinks there aren't micrograms of stuff in the oils that we don't know about.

Some are biased against carbs because of type 2, I'm biased against fats because of BP. How do I CRON that?

I think it is a contest and I'm gonna live longer than yall, because I also listen very carefully what my wife says. She needs the SS money as long as possible.(ha)

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Regards.