Re: New puppy - need help/opinions

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We adopted her from an agency/shelter type deal. We got our last

puppy from them as well. The mom was neglected(possibly abused) when

the shelter people took her in. She had just ahd a litter of 8. One

of the puppies died from Parvo, but the rest seemd fine they said and

had been on watch for weeks with no signs or syptoms. All were fed

Nutro from the time the shelter had them, and that is what we feed

them as well (in addition to veggies and other stuff).

I did a bit more reading in my natural pet book, and it sounds like

she could have syptoms of Dystemper, i really hope i am wrong, but

she has that dry " husky " cough and she hardly ate at all this

morning. She is not wanting to play with the older pup today either

and is just sleeping. I felt her nose and tummy and they are both

very warm. I dont have a thermometer either.

I made a tea of Mullien & Slippery elm for the cough, and then let it

cool and added 4 tsp Vit C; 500mg Blue Green Algae; 1 Astragulus/

Reishi/maitake cap; 6 drops of GF Seed Extract and some ACV/Honey

mixture. I gave her a small syringe full. I am waiting for some

places to open around here this morning and then see if i cant get my

hands on some Willard Water, which the book suggests for just about

everything where animals are concerned. I have prayed over her a few

times since 5am as well.

If she does not show improvement by this evening, i will be taking

her to the vet first thing tomorrow. My only question is, if they

say it is dystemper, they will want to give her meds for it i'm

sure...Should i allow it under the circumstance?

Sylvia

p.s. thanks Ann

> Hello Sylvia,

>

> IMO, this puppy has a parasitic overload...probably hooks. While

herbs

> are wonderful if there is time but from the symptoms that you

describe,

> time is not on your side.

>

> Of course building up the immune system is important and you should

> continue to concentrate on that, you must look at the dog's diet

what he

> is eating now and before you got him and what the dam was fed,

etc. If

> you are feeding out of the bag and/or can, you should probably

> investigate a more species appropriate diet.

>

> Parasites can do immeasurable harm, quickly. Cash or not, I would

take

> a stool sample to the vet and get a chemical wormer at that time if

that

> is the problem, which I believe it is. Try to avoid the vet giving

any

> additional treatments, such as vaccinations. Just tell him that

the pup

> is up to date.

>

> The vaginal discharge is vaginitis which is not all that rare but

> usually goes away on its own as the pup gets healthier. This is

usually

> seen in pups eating commercial dog food.

>

> Anne

> Banterr Irish Terriers

> VA USA

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Sylvia,

I think I would get the pup to a vet first thing tomorrow no matter

the cost. Especially if it's been exposed to parvo. That's a NASTY

virus for them. It seems that parvo has diarrhea associated with it

though. Even distemper is not a good thing.

The herbs will take too long to do what has to be done and that pup

may not have the time for herbal measures to work. I'm not even

sure a dog should have blue green algae or mushrooms or GF

seed extract. The vit c should be good as well as the acv/honey.

Good luck and I hope your puppy makes it!

Skip

On 11 Jul 2004 at 15:03, Sylvia wrote:

> We adopted her from an agency/shelter type deal. We got our last

> puppy from them as well. The mom was neglected(possibly abused) when

> the shelter people took her in. She had just ahd a litter of 8. One

> of the puppies died from Parvo, but the rest seemd fine they said and

> had been on watch for weeks with no signs or syptoms. All were fed

> Nutro from the time the shelter had them, and that is what we feed

> them as well (in addition to veggies and other stuff).

>

> I did a bit more reading in my natural pet book, and it sounds like

> she could have syptoms of Dystemper, i really hope i am wrong, but

> she has that dry " husky " cough and she hardly ate at all this

> morning. She is not wanting to play with the older pup today either

> and is just sleeping. I felt her nose and tummy and they are both

> very warm. I dont have a thermometer either.

>

> I made a tea of Mullien & Slippery elm for the cough, and then let it

> cool and added 4 tsp Vit C; 500mg Blue Green Algae; 1 Astragulus/

> Reishi/maitake cap; 6 drops of GF Seed Extract and some ACV/Honey

> mixture. I gave her a small syringe full. I am waiting for some

> places to open around here this morning and then see if i cant get my

> hands on some Willard Water, which the book suggests for just about

> everything where animals are concerned. I have prayed over her a few

> times since 5am as well.

>

> If she does not show improvement by this evening, i will be taking

> her to the vet first thing tomorrow. My only question is, if they

> say it is dystemper, they will want to give her meds for it i'm

> sure...Should i allow it under the circumstance?

>

> Sylvia

>

> p.s. thanks Ann

>

> > Hello Sylvia,

> >

> > IMO, this puppy has a parasitic overload...probably hooks. While

> herbs

> > are wonderful if there is time but from the symptoms that you

> describe,

> > time is not on your side.

> >

> > Of course building up the immune system is important and you should

> > continue to concentrate on that, you must look at the dog's diet

> what he

> > is eating now and before you got him and what the dam was fed,

> etc. If

> > you are feeding out of the bag and/or can, you should probably

> > investigate a more species appropriate diet.

> >

> > Parasites can do immeasurable harm, quickly. Cash or not, I would

> take

> > a stool sample to the vet and get a chemical wormer at that time if

> that

> > is the problem, which I believe it is. Try to avoid the vet giving

> any

> > additional treatments, such as vaccinations. Just tell him that

> the pup

> > is up to date.

> >

> > The vaginal discharge is vaginitis which is not all that rare but

> > usually goes away on its own as the pup gets healthier. This is

> usually

> > seen in pups eating commercial dog food.

> >

> > Anne

> > Banterr Irish Terriers

> > VA USA

[Guest guest]

Sylvia, after reading this I would definitely take her in and check for parvo... It can sometimes come on later... http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htmand keep giving echinecea or astralagus. and garlic.

SuziSylvia <h10feet@...> wrote:

We adopted her from an agency/shelter type deal. We got our last puppy from them as well. The mom was neglected(possibly abused) when the shelter people took her in. She had just ahd a litter of 8. One of the puppies died from Parvo, but the rest seemd fine they said and had been on watch for weeks with no signs or syptoms. All were fed Nutro from the time the shelter had them, and that is what we feed them as well (in addition to veggies and other stuff).I did a bit more reading in my natural pet book, and it sounds like she could have syptoms of Dystemper, i really hope i am wrong, but she has that dry "husky" cough and she hardly ate at all this morning. She is not wanting to play with the older pup today either and is just sleeping. I felt her nose and tummy and they are both very

warm. I dont have a thermometer either.I made a tea of Mullien & Slippery elm for the cough, and then let it cool and added 4 tsp Vit C; 500mg Blue Green Algae; 1 Astragulus/ Reishi/maitake cap; 6 drops of GF Seed Extract and some ACV/Honey mixture. I gave her a small syringe full. I am waiting for some places to open around here this morning and then see if i cant get my hands on some Willard Water, which the book suggests for just about everything where animals are concerned. I have prayed over her a few times since 5am as well.If she does not show improvement by this evening, i will be taking her to the vet first thing tomorrow. My only question is, if they say it is dystemper, they will want to give her meds for it i'm sure...Should i allow it under the circumstance?Sylviap.s. thanks Ann--- In health , Anne Bird <irishfox@a...>

wrote:> Hello Sylvia,> > IMO, this puppy has a parasitic overload...probably hooks. While herbs > are wonderful if there is time but from the symptoms that you describe, > time is not on your side.> > Of course building up the immune system is important and you should > continue to concentrate on that, you must look at the dog's diet what he > is eating now and before you got him and what the dam was fed, etc. If > you are feeding out of the bag and/or can, you should probably > investigate a more species appropriate diet.> > Parasites can do immeasurable harm, quickly. Cash or not, I would take > a stool sample to the vet and get a chemical wormer at that time if that > is the problem, which I believe it is. Try to avoid the vet giving any > additional treatments, such as vaccinations. Just tell him that

the pup > is up to date.> > The vaginal discharge is vaginitis which is not all that rare but > usually goes away on its own as the pup gets healthier. This is usually > seen in pups eating commercial dog food.> > Anne> Banterr Irish Terriers> VA USA

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All,

thank you so much for all of your suggestions.

I was able to get some willard water yesterday and in addition to

that the puppy tonic i made, Lavender oil, lots of love and Prayer,

she has improved much

While i was out getting the Willard Water, DH called the place we got

her from because we also suspect she was toxic from her surgery. The

adoption place is going to have their vet see her tomorrow and we are

keeping a close eye on her today.

Her little suture site was swollen and her belly was on fire. DH

layed hands on her and applied lavender to the entire area.

Once home we got Willard Water into their water bowl and had them

both drink. we kept up with the puppy tonic i made and by then end

of the day yesterday she was looking for food so we let her eat a bit.

She ate and drank this morning, not alot, but enough that she seems

to be improving.

Again thank you to all who contibuted.

Sylvia

> > Hello Sylvia,

> >

> > IMO, this puppy has a parasitic overload...probably hooks. While

> herbs

> > are wonderful if there is time but from the symptoms that you

> describe,

> > time is not on your side.

> >

> > Of course building up the immune system is important and you

should

> > continue to concentrate on that, you must look at the dog's diet

> what he

> > is eating now and before you got him and what the dam was fed,

> etc. If

> > you are feeding out of the bag and/or can, you should probably

> > investigate a more species appropriate diet.

> >

> > Parasites can do immeasurable harm, quickly. Cash or not, I

would

> take

> > a stool sample to the vet and get a chemical wormer at that time

if

> that

> > is the problem, which I believe it is. Try to avoid the vet

giving

> any

> > additional treatments, such as vaccinations. Just tell him that

> the pup

> > is up to date.

> >

> > The vaginal discharge is vaginitis which is not all that rare but

> > usually goes away on its own as the pup gets healthier. This is

> usually

> > seen in pups eating commercial dog food.

> >

> > Anne

> > Banterr Irish Terriers

> > VA USA

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

great news Sylvia... if the wound is infected keep up the natural antibiotics... even take some total tonic on the wound...

SuziSylvia <h10feet@...> wrote:

All,thank you so much for all of your suggestions.I was able to get some willard water yesterday and in addition to that the puppy tonic i made, Lavender oil, lots of love and Prayer, she has improved muchWhile i was out getting the Willard Water, DH called the place we got her from because we also suspect she was toxic from her surgery. The adoption place is going to have their vet see her tomorrow and we are keeping a close eye on her today.Her little suture site was swollen and her belly was on fire. DH layed hands on her and applied lavender to the entire area.Once home we got Willard Water into their water bowl and had them both drink. we kept up with the puppy tonic i made and by then end of the day yesterday she was looking for food so we let her eat a bit.She ate and drank this morning,

not alot, but enough that she seems to be improving. Again thank you to all who contibuted.Sylvia> > Hello Sylvia,> > > > IMO, this puppy has a parasitic overload...probably hooks. While > herbs > > are wonderful if there is time but from the symptoms that you > describe, > > time is not on your side.> > > > Of course building

up the immune system is important and you should > > continue to concentrate on that, you must look at the dog's diet > what he > > is eating now and before you got him and what the dam was fed, > etc. If > > you are feeding out of the bag and/or can, you should probably > > investigate a more species appropriate diet.> > > > Parasites can do immeasurable harm, quickly. Cash or not, I would > take > > a stool sample to the vet and get a chemical wormer at that time if > that > > is the problem, which I believe it is. Try to avoid the vet giving > any > > additional treatments, such as vaccinations. Just tell him that > the pup > > is up to date.> > > > The vaginal discharge is vaginitis which is not all that rare but > > usually goes away on its own as the pup gets

healthier. This is > usually > > seen in pups eating commercial dog food.> > > > Anne> > Banterr Irish Terriers> > VA USA> > > >

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Update on Puppies,

We just retruned from 2 vets visits. The first stop was to the vet

who did Kuma's Spay surgery, she inspected her belly (sutures) and

signs of discharge and said everything looks ok. Of course she was

not running a fever when we took her and much of the sweeling she had

Sunday and yesterday morning are gone due to all the TLC we have been

giving her.

Next stop was the vet that the adoption people use for Parvo and

other stuff as i was really suspecting that this was the issue. Both

vets felt this was not the case, and vet Number 2 gave both pup's a

parvo test and both are negative.

Both vets agreed that they are not dehydrated (so what we have beeen

doing for them must be working) and We have brought both of them home

to moniter for further symptoms. We are going to continue fortifying

both of them with the mixture we made and see what happens (we added

garlic to the new batch we made last night).

I dont think we are out of the dark yet, but at least it is not

Parvo! Many, many thanks to all of you for your suggestions. These

guys are our family and i have been a wreck so this means alot to me.

Much love and gratitude to you all,

Sylvia

> > > Hello Sylvia,

> > >

> > > IMO, this puppy has a parasitic overload...probably hooks.

While

> > herbs

> > > are wonderful if there is time but from the symptoms that you

> > describe,

> > > time is not on your side.

> > >

> > > Of course building up the immune system is important and you

> should

> > > continue to concentrate on that, you must look at the dog's

diet

> > what he

> > > is eating now and before you got him and what the dam was fed,

> > etc. If

> > > you are feeding out of the bag and/or can, you should probably

> > > investigate a more species appropriate diet.

> > >

> > > Parasites can do immeasurable harm, quickly. Cash or not, I

> would

> > take

> > > a stool sample to the vet and get a chemical wormer at that

time

> if

> > that

> > > is the problem, which I believe it is. Try to avoid the vet

> giving

> > any

> > > additional treatments, such as vaccinations. Just tell him

that

> > the pup

> > > is up to date.

> > >

> > > The vaginal discharge is vaginitis which is not all that rare

but

> > > usually goes away on its own as the pup gets healthier. This

is

> > usually

> > > seen in pups eating commercial dog food.

> > >

> > > Anne

> > > Banterr Irish Terriers

> > > VA USA

> >

> >

> >

> >