Re: was Diet >> BP >>> McCRON

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With a few exceptions (like trans-fats) there are no good or bad foods, only

good and bad " diets " or food combinations due to mix and amount.

As a caveat, I happen to be a stockholder in Mcs but haven't eaten at

one in so long I don't remember when it may have been. The last time I

lunched regularly in a Mcs was in the late '60s.

I am inclined to agree with Rodney's premise. While there are clear

consequences from various nutrient deficiencies those are generally long

time constant or slow acting mechanisms. It is probably possible to select a

energy restricted diet from Mcs that would improve the health of most

Americans after a month of adherence.

Longer term, where nutrition imbalances are more likely to rear their ugly

head, you might find yourself having to eat 3 McSalads with no dressing and

other strange manipulations to even approach ON.

Mcs might fund a CR movie project :-), in fact I think somebody may

have already done something like that, probably hoping to cash in on the

buzz from that other excuse for responsible journalism. This seems to be the

silly year for such stuff.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 1:23 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Diet >>> Blood Pressure

Hi Francesca:

It is certainly not my view that Mcs' menu represents the

epitome of healthy food. As we know here eating for the most part

carefully selected vegetables and some fruits appears to be by far

the healthiest route. But I AM saying that, imo, the TV reporter's

evident deterioration in his health in thirty days was *principally*

because of the huge number of calories he was eating, while at the

same time intentionally not exercising to make sure he didn't burn

off any of the excess either.

I am saying that I believe his health would have shown no

deterioration (and perhaps some improvement) in those thirty days had

he eaten 100% Mcs food, but 40% less than his 'maintenance'

level. But there are MUCH better ways to eat 40% less, than at

Mcs.

I made the point not to recommend Mcs to those who are

nutrition-conscious, but to draw an analogy with JW's situation,

which I strongly suspect has to do with volume of food, not with some

genetic or historical 'nurture' factor, which seems to be what JW has

believed up to this point. In one of his posts he had said something

to the effect that 'maybe' (or was it 'perhaps'?) he needed to lose a

little more weight. Of course I know only what JW has disclosed

here about his health status and family history. But from the data I

have seen my bet is that weight and volume of food is the issue, just

as it was (principally) I believe with the TV reporter's rapid thirty

day deterioration in health.

Perhaps I can put it this way: If JW's blood pressure is still

excessively elevated when his WC/H is below 0.45 and his BMI is below

22 (these are NOT extreme levels by CR standards) then I will concede

that I am wrong and that food volume is not his only issue.

Does this clarify my position? Thanks for letting me know there was

some ambiguity in my previous post.

Rodney.

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--- In , " john roberts " <johnhrob@n...>

wrote:

>

> Mcs might fund a CR movie project :-), in fact I think

somebody may

> have already done something like that, probably hoping to cash in

on the

> buzz from that other excuse for responsible journalism. This seems

to be the

> silly year for such stuff.

Hi All,

40% less McDollars is something I doubt would be entertained.

Cheers, Al.