Re: Years of CR Life Extension.

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I've looked about for one- haven't yet found it. But I did write an email to

Dr. De Grey requesting a more detailed rationale. I'll keep you updated when

and if I have more information.

>From: " Rodney " <perspect1111@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Years of CR Life Extension.

>Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 02:57:08 -0000

>

>Hi :

>

>Do we know the rationale by which de Grey comes to this conclusion?

>TIA.

>

>Rodney.

>

>

> > > > In trying to explain CRONing to others, I've tried to

>demonstrate

> > >that

> > > > CRONing is not deprivation, but the way that many other

>societies

> > >naturally eat.

> > > > The examples I've been using have been US vs. Japan vs.

>Okinawan.

> > >Does anyone

> > > > know what the average calorie intakes are in these three

>societies?

> > > >

> > > > Bernadette

> > >

>

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Bit of an update: Reply from Aubrey de Grey:

" Hello

I have a detailed account of my thinking on this in press at the

moment;

I will send you a copy of the manuscript when I get home in a few

days.

Cheers, Aubrey "

> > > OTOH, maybe about 3 more years is all CR will yeild in humans. I

> >believe

> > > Aubrey de Grey has stated this is all he believes CR can do to

> >extend life

> > > span in humans.

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...>

> > > >Reply-

> > > >

> > > >Subject: [ ] Re: Comparative Calorie Intake

> > > >Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:08:07 -0000

> > > >

> > > >Hi Bernadette:

> > > >

> > > >I wouldn't want to go hog-wild on the Okinawa example. As I

recall

> > > >they are not a good example of the benefits of CR. Whatever

their

> > > >caloric intake may be, the average lifespan for males in

Okinawa is

> > > >only a couple of years (perhaps three?) more than in the US. I

> > > >posted the numbers here probably six months ago from data in

the

> > > >files (left margin). Both below 80, if I remember correctly.

> > > >

> > > >There are a few possible ways the anomaly might be explained,

> >either:

> > > >their caloric intake numbers are wrong; extension of maximum

> >lifespan

> > > >by CR does not work in humans (japanese?); or the Okinawans

must be

> > > >making some very big (health) mistakes (eating too much

tofu? ;

> > > >^ )))).

> > > >

> > > >The mice that have their calories restricted by 40% live 40%

> >longer.

> > > >That should equate in human terms to the occasional case of

people

> > > >aged 154 (110 x 1.4). Is there even a single case in Okinawa

of

> > > >anyone over the age of 110? Scant evidence for extension of

> >maximum

> > > >lifespan. Certainly there are none over 120.

> > > >

> > > >I do not have the answer to this anomaly. Many months ago I

posed

> > > >this question by email to Weindruch. I didn't get an answer.

> > > >

> > > >All fwiw.

> > > >

> > > >Rodney.

> > > >

> > > >--- In , bernadettepawlik@c...

wrote:

> > > > > In trying to explain CRONing to others, I've tried to

> >demonstrate

> > > >that

> > > > > CRONing is not deprivation, but the way that many other

> >societies

> > > >naturally eat.

> > > > > The examples I've been using have been US vs. Japan vs.

> >Okinawan.

> > > >Does anyone

> > > > > know what the average calorie intakes are in these three

> >societies?

> > > > >

> > > > > Bernadette

> > > >

> >

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> Bit of an update: Reply from Aubrey de Grey:

>

> " Hello

>

> I have a detailed account of my thinking on this in press at the

> moment;

> I will send you a copy of the manuscript when I get home in a few

> days.

>

> Cheers, Aubrey "

Hello,

Any word from Aubrey yet?

Aequalsz