Re: starch (was Type II Diabetes & CRON)

[Guest guest]

Hi Francesca:

I agree about the Russett potatoes and sweet potatoes, but I don't

think it is the **starch** in them that provides the benefit. Nor

the starch component in the whole grain bread. I still eat a fair

amount of starch. Really enjoy it. But I am trying to cut down,

where I can.

Rodney.

>

> > Hi JR:

> >

> > I sure would like to see studies which show the effects, or their

> > absence, of variations in macronutrient ratios. Are there any

which

> > have methodically varied the proportions to determine the effects?

> > It seems to me that the advocates of the various types of diets -

> > high fat, high carb, high protein - have never experimented with

> > anything except their own recommended formula!

> >

> > Certainly, Spindler's recent mouse study persuaded me pretty

> > decisively that **starch** has no benefits except for those on the

> > point of starvation. ( would have reached Ten Ton Depot if

he

> > had had additional starch (or fat or protein), even without all

the

> > other nutrients he was drastically short of. Of course he still

> > would probably not have survived). Also the Warsaw study I just

> > posted seems to suggest starch is less than helpful.

> >

> > Rodney.

[Guest guest]

I'm still wondering about the potato. Maybe they included the leaf? I don't see anything in Duke's spectacular for anti-oxidants. Anyone find the full text?

I'm rooting for the prune.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Francesca Skelton

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 7:29 AM

Subject: [ ] starch (was Type II Diabetes & CRON)

Well I'm not so willing to throw out ALL starch. The Russett potato cameout very high on that new list of antioxidant foods. Sweet potatos arepretty nutritious too and were eaten often to the biospherans. Walfordwondered if it was something in the SP's that kept the biospherans fromgettingosteoporosis (see the Walford file) - nothing he could prove ofcourse. Also if one has a mood disorder, these foods help. And of course wholegrains are associated with longer life and better health. Could be thatdifferent individuals may actually NEED some starch to function properly.

[Guest guest]

Anyone for avocados and rice bran?

Or plums, blueberries and pecans?

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/Other/jfca17_407-422.pdf

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: jwwright

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:27 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] starch (was Type II Diabetes & CRON)

I'm still wondering about the potato. Maybe they included the leaf? I don't see anything in Duke's spectacular for anti-oxidants. Anyone find the full text?

I'm rooting for the prune.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Francesca Skelton

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 7:29 AM

Subject: [ ] starch (was Type II Diabetes & CRON)

Well I'm not so willing to throw out ALL starch. The Russett potato cameout very high on that new list of antioxidant foods. Sweet potatos arepretty nutritious too and were eaten often to the biospherans. Walfordwondered if it was something in the SP's that kept the biospherans fromgettingosteoporosis (see the Walford file) - nothing he could prove ofcourse. Also if one has a mood disorder, these foods help. And of course wholegrains are associated with longer life and better health. Could be thatdifferent individuals may actually NEED some starch to function properly.