Adrenals

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Deficient activity of the adrenal gland is listed as a possible cause for

Meniere's. Poor functioning of the Pineal gland is also listed, would you

have any idea how these glands effect the cochlea ? There is no known cause

for Meniere's but something must cause it !

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ADRENALS

there are quite a few tests the docs can do to test the adrenal function...

there are many diseases associated with the malfunction of the adrenals. one

is called 's Disease. this one is quite obvious when you see it and

it is quite common...the outward symptoms are large upper body, smaller leg

girth and a hump (smallish) at the base of the neck that looks like a fatty

tumor-type deal. many more women than men have this disease.

also another symptom of low adrenal function can be infertility as the

adrenal cortex is where cortisol is produced and cortisol is essential in

the process of becoming pregnant. easily replaced but often overlooked by

most drs.

sparrow

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> > Hi Pam,

> >

> > I hope we are not to be depressed for long. You are like me, almost

> frozen,

> > as to what to do. I am all ready to relate to blood typing and then

have

> to

> > ask " Is my hypothyroidism (and possibly an adrenal sluggishness) going

to

> > throw me into some unique category where Nothing that applies to regular

> > people will work for Me " . It's all so complicated.

> >

> > I relate to re jn's feeling that there aren't enough concerned people.

I

> > don't want to be the only one who worries. I am stuck with the job. I

> > really need to get healthy and speed up, and so operate at the level of

my

> > thinking and caring in spite of inactivity or unawareness of others.

> >

> > I love the diet. When i avoid, then indulge-i feel the difference.

Where

> > before er4yt, i just felt generally lousy. I can feel that i am on the

> right

> > track. I am so thankful for the lady who wrote that she felt certain

> > emotions when eating wheat-exactly like me. So i know i am not making

up

> my

> > " crazy " suspicions.

> >

> > Thanks for being such a support/I know all read these together so it's

for

> > all i've talked to and others..

> >

> >

> > Ann

> > in Florida

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hi ,

no i really don't know much at all about iniere's but i will see what i can

find. also don't know about the effects on the cochlea...

sparrow

Re: Re: RE

> >

> >

> > > Hi Pam,

> > >

> > > I hope we are not to be depressed for long. You are like me, almost

> > frozen,

> > > as to what to do. I am all ready to relate to blood typing and then

> have

> > to

> > > ask " Is my hypothyroidism (and possibly an adrenal sluggishness) going

> to

> > > throw me into some unique category where Nothing that applies to

regular

> > > people will work for Me " . It's all so complicated.

> > >

> > > I relate to re jn's feeling that there aren't enough concerned people.

> I

> > > don't want to be the only one who worries. I am stuck with the job.

I

> > > really need to get healthy and speed up, and so operate at the level

of

> my

> > > thinking and caring in spite of inactivity or unawareness of others.

> > >

> > > I love the diet. When i avoid, then indulge-i feel the difference.

> Where

> > > before er4yt, i just felt generally lousy. I can feel that i am on

the

> > right

> > > track. I am so thankful for the lady who wrote that she felt certain

> > > emotions when eating wheat-exactly like me. So i know i am not making

> up

> > my

> > > " crazy " suspicions.

> > >

> > > Thanks for being such a support/I know all read these together so it's

> for

> > > all i've talked to and others..

> > >

> > >

> > > Ann

> > > in Florida

> > >

> >

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Hi Sheila/everyone

Ive lost all previous emails due to a fault on my line and having to reinstall everything! Please could you tell me again about adrenals? I have done the questionnaire and think there might be an adrenal connection (and also wondering if there is an adrenal connection with as he is always very hot and also doesnt 'do' stress very well - might that fit with adenals?).

If you would tell me how much I need to take, of what, and where I could get it from, I would be really grateful. Also, as you know, Im on levothyroxine and doing much better on this (though thinking of having a word with endo to test out potential of a trial on Armour - mainly after reading your experience about heel pain going on armour, as I still have this, though much much lmproved) so wouldnt want to stop this to take adrenal 'stuff'

your advice would be much appreciated, as always!

Gill x.

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> http://www.tuberose.com:80/Adrenal_Glands.html

>

> Everybody should read this article too. This guy makes everything so

much easier to understand.

Thanks Sheila for pointing this article out. I've read it before but

have just done so again and it really is brilliantly written and

explained.

I had a shock though to read that mercury settles in the adrenals. If

I'd read that before, it hadn't sunk in.

x

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If you feel you may have a mercury problem , do contact Becky at beckydutton@.... There is a very strong connection between hypothyroidism and mercury poisoning.

Luv - Sheila>> > >> > http://www.tuberose.com:80/Adrenal_Glands.html> > > > Everybody should read this article too. This guy makes everything so > much easier to understand. > > Thanks Sheila for pointing this article out. I've read it before but > have just done so again and it really is brilliantly written and > explained.> > I had a shock though to read that mercury settles in the adrenals. If > I'd read that before, it hadn't sunk in. > > x>

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Do you have your NA ready to take . If so, start today, a day or two is going to make no difference whatsoever. Start by taking one tablet with breakfast and stay on that for a couple of days and then add another NA with your lunch. never take them after 1.00p.m. If no adverse reaction, add another NA with your breakfast dose after a couple of weeks and see how you go on that. Many people take 4 tablets daily to start with and some even go up to 6. If 6 tablets don't do the trick, then you might need to be thinking of something stronger such as Isocort or Cortef.

I would be tempted to start taking half grain of Armour again after say, 2 to 3 days on NA in your particular circumstances and stay on it for 7 days, and then increase by another half grain. Take your Armour split dose, or you can take it at night as many of us are now doing. This is helping with a good nights sleep and feeling more refreshed during the day. It also leaves the day free to take other supplements such as iron and calcium that need to be taken well away from thyroid hormone replacement. Are you taking Selenium 200 mcgs daily (this is very important as it helps to convert the inactive T4 to the active T3). You should also be taking at least 2000 to 4000 mgs Vitamin C, Siberian Ginseng and either liquorice root or liquorice extract to help boost your adrenals.

It does take up to 6 weeks for the T4 to get completely out of your system. You might be hurting in your lower back because of the lack of T3. T3 needs to get into every cell in your body and brain to make it function, and your pain could be caused through your muscles going into spasm because this is what can happen. Once you start Armour again, this should go away.

Luv - Sheila

Hi,

could anyone advise me please ? I'm on day seven without Armour in preparation to start Nutri Adrenal on day ten....... thing is that I am now REALLY missing my Armour,I'm struggling to say the least and my adrenal 'area' in my back is painful enough for me to be taking a large dose of codeine.

Two questions; if I take a little bit of Armour (Dr P said I could if I really needed to) will this, and how will this effect me starting my NA.... and why are my adrenals hurting again all of a sudden ??? I would have thought all the excess T4 was out of my system by now (?)

Many thanks if anyone has got any ideas,

julia

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Hi , Your T4 level will have about halved by day 5-6 so that may be enough to start the nutri, but we all react differently, so in your shoes I'd follow Dr. P's advice. Starting too soon can result in a thyroid dump which can send you hyper which can be very uncomfortable. adrenals Hi, could anyone advise me please ? I'm on day seven without Armour in preparation to start Nutri Adrenal on day ten....... thing is that I am now REALLY missing my Armour,I'm struggling to say the least and my adrenal 'area' in my back is painful enough for me to be taking a large dose of codeine. Two questions; if I take a little bit of Armour (Dr P said I could if I really needed to) will this, and how will this effect me starting my NA.... and why are my adrenals hurting again all of a sudden ??? I would have thought all the excess T4 was out of my system by now (?) Many thanks if anyone has got any ideas, julia Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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I remember when i started NAE I didnt stop the thyroid meds and I did feel unwell for a while, but I didnt know you had to stop so thats why I didnt, in the whole 6 weeks since I stopped 150mcg of T4 my T4 level has only dropped from 18.1 to 14 but my TSH has shot up from 0.66 to 6, I did restart it inbetween though--- On Fri, 26/9/08, jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>

Hi ,

Your T4 level will have about halved by day 5-6 so that may be enough to start the nutri, but we all react differently, so in your shoes I'd follow Dr. P's advice. Starting too soon can result in a thyroid dump which can send you hyper which can be very uncomfortable.

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Hi,

could anyone advise me please ? I'm on day seven without Armour in preparation to start Nutri Adrenal on day ten....... thing is that I am now REALLY missing my Armour,I'm struggling to say the least and my adrenal 'area' in my back is painful enough for me to be taking a large dose of codeine.

Two questions; if I take a little bit of Armour (Dr P said I could if I really needed to) will this, and how will this effect me starting my NA.... and why are my adrenals hurting again all of a sudden ??? I would have thought all the excess T4 was out of my system by now (?)

Many thanks if anyone has got any ideas,

julia

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We write over and over again that anybody starting adrenal

supplementation if they are taking thyroid hormone replacement should

stop taking this for a week or longer before starting it. Dr Peatfield

also tells his patients to stop this too.

Sheila

>

> I remember when i started NAE I didnt stop the thyroid meds and I did

feel unwell for a while, but I didnt know you had to stop so thats why

I didnt, in the whole 6 weeks since I stopped 150mcg of T4 my T4 level

has only dropped from 18.1 to 14 but my TSH has shot up from 0.66 to 6,

I did restart it inbetween though

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>

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When I first started NAE I hadnt seen Dr P so didnt know anything about having to stop the thyroid meds, anyway thats history now.

We write over and over again that anybody starting adrenal supplementation if they are taking thyroid hormone replacement should stop taking this for a week or longer before starting it. Dr Peatfield also tells his patients to stop this too. Sheila>> I remember when i started NAE I didnt stop the thyroid meds and I did feel unwell for a while, but I didnt know you had to stop so thats why I didnt, in the whole 6 weeks since I stopped 150mcg of T4 my T4 level has only dropped from 18.1 to 14 but my TSH has shot up from 0.66 to 6, I did restart it inbetween though> >

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The idea of this forum is to make sure that all our members are

given as much information as possible about thyroid and adrenal problems

etc, and recommendations as to how these could be sorted. This is so

they can help themselves without necessarily having to resort to having

to pay to see a private doctor. Many of us cannot afford such a luxury.

Anybody who finds out, through testing, that they have low adrenal

reserve and decide to start taking adrenal supplementation is always

recommended, by either other members or myself, to stop taking their

thyroid hormone replacement for at least week or so before starting it.

If you didn't know about stopping your thyroid meds before starting NAE,

the fault does not lie with this forum. If you read through our Files

and our website, you would also have seen this particular

recommendation is there too. There is no reason why you should not have

known.

Sheila

> When I first started NAE I hadnt seen Dr P so didnt know anything

about having to stop the thyroid meds, anyway thats history now.

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> The idea of this forum is to make sure that all our members are

> given as much information as possible .....

And thank heavens for this site. We'd all be lost without it.

I guess that for some of us (me!) there is a lot to take in especially

when I'm as brain fogged as I have been for the last few weeks...

And....just when I think I'm getting a broad understanding, something

new pops up -especially here on the message board - that I've never

even considered before.

By the way, when I came of levo to boost my adrenals, the effect was

amazing! I remember that for about 3 or 4 days I felt fabulous (then

it wore off....) Dr P said it was because my body was at last able to

soak up the excess T4 I think? Anyway, it gave me a brief taste of

what being well felt like and reminded me how I will feel again in the

future!

Pen x

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Hi Pen

Yippee,

One dragon down

only 11 more to go

Bob

> > The idea of this forum is to make sure that all our members a

> > given as much information as possible .....

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Hi

Have you considered joining the Adrenal group NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ as this forum should be able to help and support you more regarding adrenals. They are very knowledgeable and would no doubt be able to answer your questions better than we can. Val, the moderator of that group is very knowledgeable.

Luv - Sheila

I see what you mean pen, I stopped my T4 for too long and that is probably why I feel so bad now, not even the cortisol doesnt helps that much. I have just posted a question on that and think because I am only on a very small ammount of T4 this may be why I dont feel so good. Tiredness is back, big style, feeling washed out and spacey, everything is an effort, so my excess T4 must have been used up pretty quick when I started HC, I just seem to live for bed time at the moment and its not nice

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Hi Margaret,

Yes, but with the

qualifier that I ticked the box on a long list of adrenal questions and was treated by

Dr. P.

Subject:

Adrenals

HI Margaret

Here

Has anyone

started on the adrena supplement without having the salava test.I do

beleive I have Adrenal fatique and am about to start the supplemnts but I

did not know if I should have the test first as it costs a lot of money I

would rather just go for it but as I say wondered if anyone had just

taken them.

Off to docs

now for my Armour (ha ha in me dreams) but I will fight the good fight

and put the point over letters on file ect.

Would welcome

your imput folks

Margaret

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Thanks

Ta very much appreciated I gonna start supplements when I have had 5 thyroid free days.

Margaret

From: Stenning <jennystenning@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:56:18 PMSubject: RE: Adrenals

Hi Margaret,

Yes, but with the qualifier that I ticked the box on a long list of adrenal questions and was treated by Dr. P.

Subject: Adrenals

HI Margaret Here

Has anyone started on the adrena supplement without having the salava test.

Margaret

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thyroid treatment

This will take you to our forum web site. Look in the Menu and click on FILES. Then

scroll down and read anything you can with 'adrenal' in the title.

On our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk

click on Hypothyroidism in the Menu, and then in the drop down Menu, click on

'Associated Conditions' then click on Adrenals.

luv - Sheila

I have been unable to find the Adrenals file on

the Advocacy web site. Can anyone help please?

Joyce

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I use Biotics Research Cytozyme AD.

Steph

adrenals

What do you use to support your adrenal funtion?Nicoline

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IS there a more natural way / easier way to do it as in Greece it’s

very difficult to get things like that. Generally I can get hold of vitamins

and minerals. The lugol’s the pharmacy actually made for me!

From: iodine

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Sent: 09 June 2009 15:09

iodine

Subject: Re: adrenals

I use Biotics Research Cytozyme AD.

Steph

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From: nicoline_cammenga

iodine

Sent: Tuesday, June 09,

2009 1:33 AM

Subject: adrenals

What do you use to support your adrenal

funtion?

Nicoline

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Sure. There are herbs like licorice root (which can be a problem for some), ashwaganda root, vit C, Celtic Sea Salt.

There is a good list here http://www.herbalremediesinfo.com/adrenalsystem.html

Steph

adrenals

What do you use to support your adrenal funtion?Nicoline

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Thanks Steph.

I assume there is no reason why a guy can’t take this as their

text was very female/ menopause orientated!

From: iodine

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Sent: 09 June 2009 17:54

iodine

Subject: Re: adrenals

Sure. There are herbs like licorice root (which can be a

problem for some), ashwaganda root, vit C, Celtic Sea Salt.

There is a good list here http://www.herbalremediesinfo.com/adrenalsystem.html

Steph

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iodine

Sent: Tuesday, June 09,

2009 10:41 AM

Subject: RE:

adrenals

IS there a more natural way / easier way

to do it as in Greece it’s very difficult to get things like that. Generally I

can get hold of vitamins and minerals. The lugol’s the pharmacy actually made

for me!

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees

Sent: 09 June 2009 15:09

iodine

Subject: Re: adrenals

I use Biotics Research Cytozyme AD.

Steph

adrenals

What do you use to support your adrenal funtion?

Nicoline

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I could write a book about how to heal your adrenals. I have tried so many

things, many of which have helped, but if you have any stress in your life it is

hard to get well. I had severe adrenal fatigue, because of a couple years of

stress factors in my life.

I have a lot of stuff that I used to take everyday, but now I am " muscle

testing " before I take any supplements, to see what my body wants in a day. I

feel better for it. That way I save my body from having to process something it

doesn't need and I save some money.

I test Adrenalift, Magnesium, Pantothenic acid, Holy Basil, Ashwagandha, Quantum

Adrenal Complex, Ester C, Black Currant Oil (GLA), Rhodiola, Super Cortisol

support, Adreset, Isocort, DHEA and the B.E.S.T supplements Adrenergy and

Alkadrenergy. I also take clay everyday and use Alka-Trace in my water.

Marelin

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> What do you use to support your adrenal funtion?

> Nicoline

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I also have a symptom every day in the back of my neck.Its like a squeezing

pressure from the back of my neck going up in to the back of my head and I have

to take pain killers every day for it.It goes off but returns and gets worse

through the day.Any info would be very much appreciated.

>

>                                       Best wishes Sharon

>

Sharon, do you spend a lot of time working at a PC? I ask, because I had the

same symptom with the neck pain last year. I had to spend several days on a

project at work, sitting in the same position for hours on end at the PC - my GP

said that had caused it. Once I returned to my normal duties the pain gradually

went away.

Best wishes

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Hi Sharon

Perhaps caffeine doesn't agree with you and you are caffeine sensitive?

caffeine is supposed to increase adrenaline isn't it so maybe that's what you

feel? I don't think it's good for anyone with adrenal fatigue, but it is hard

to give up. I have wanted to give up caffeine for ages.

A woman called Ruth Whalen wrote a book about caffeine sensitivity: for years

people thought she was mentally ill but it turned out to be caffeine allergy, it

was interesting:

http://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Dance-Caffeine-Cerebral-Progressive/dp/1412050006

This article is by the same author, it says about how caffeine can

cause/simulate mental illness:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/caffeine_allergy.html

Maybe the neck problem you get is to do with caffeine causing muscle tension? or

maybe it is some kind of allergy/sensitivity? this may sound far fetched since

" everyone drinks tea or coffee or cola " but from what Ruth Whalen says, caffeine

allergy is not uncommon - but caffeine 'abuse' is very common indeed.

have you tried weaning yourself off coffee?

chris

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> Hi everyone,

>

>                   I dont know if its a symptom of adrenal problems,but if I

drink a cup of coffee,even weak,I feel my heart beat speed up slightly.And then

quite soon after,I feel quite shaky, weak and really fatigued.Apart from the

coffee thing,I also have a symptom every day in the back of my neck.Its like a

squeezing pressure from the back of my neck going up in to the back of my head

and I have to take pain killers every day for it.It goes off but returns and

gets worse through the day.Any info would be very much appreciated.

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Hope you feel better soon. I haven't started addressing adrenal support so I

don't know much on the subject. I can relate to being sporadic with

supplementation. Maybe if life wasn't so hectic?

>

> I was feeling realy tired after a job intervie on Monday and then the next

day, so I took some desicated adrenals by standard process. I take this type of

supplement periodically. Anyway, my lower back began to hurt and it still hurts

rightnow. I am wondering if it is a healing crisis or if I should do something

extrat to make the lowerback pain go away?

>  

> This is wierd since taking these types of  supplements usually is what makes

the lower back pain to go away. I have also been a little sporadic with my

iodine supplementation lately, over the past week. I did take about 37.5 mg

yesterday, and will take 50 today.

>  

> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

>